What your really saying is people don't have rights to restrict their property. I would like to use your house for my parties from now on then. Once again, you don't have a right to the internet just like you don't have a right to the New York Times. This entire argument is flawed. If people want to restrict access to their pipes, then that is their shallow grave. Consumer retaliation can be strong, devastatingly so. (Just ask Time Warner)

I mean, it isn't like everyone has internet. Go up to some rural mountain areas and you can't get it during the winter at times. And I am not just talking about broadband, I am talking about the internet. Are their first amendment rights being violated? Not being able to consume a product you desire has nothing to do with rights, at all. No one owes you speech, that is something you owe yourself.

I think your heart is in the right place on this, I think your demands are completely unreasonable, and in the end, lead down a path I don't think you desire. Does the FCC create free speech on TV? Or does it take an active role in making sure things aren't said? Same with the radio, are they handing out tickets for people not being expressive enough, or expression something they don't want heard? You really, really, really, don't want governments deciding how content is delivered on the internet...you really don't.

>> ^kymbos:

Inception and Memento are both really good films (I think Inception is a Great film), but largely because they are great ideas, well delivered. His Batman stuff is fine, but it didn't rock my world. Really, it seems pretty formulaic to me.
I think Tarantino's work is so distinctive and ambitious, that he sits above all others. Also, if you go through his films (Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, the two Kill Bills (so far, a third has been announced), Grindhouse and then Inglourious Basterds), it's hard to pick a weak spot apart from Grindhouse which was a disaster and an excuse to film the best car chase in modern history. But even that was ambitious if not well executed.
I'm tempted to put Danny Boyle up there, but almost exclusively for Trainspotting which is my favourite film of all time, and Sunshine which I thought was brilliant.
Perhaps Tarantino could be given the nod for best writer/director in the modern era?


Good call on Danny Boyle. I haven't see Sunshine, but 28 Days Later is one of my favourites of all time, Shallow Grave was a great debut and Slumdog Millionaire was beautiful. But yeah, Tarantino, he's inimitable

Universal Health Care starts with re-education in the U.S., pardner-All for it too...a nation of healthy, strappin' folks, who know how not to kill themselves with food, being given what they need as far as health care....mind, body, and spirit.-Believe me, It'll be cheap...insurance companies may go out of business, or be OUR bitches instead of we theirs....Get the drift blogger? Health Care starts from inside, not with gimme gimme back what i already gave away tactics or policies.
Fuck Obabma's health care bullshit-he's a fucking prawn!

Pharmaceutical companies can play somewhere in a fucking shallow grave with a bit of lye to keep em all frosty!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alimentarius
ever hear of this NetRunner??...Nazi fucking eugenics shit...plain and simple, in the most pompous legalese imaginable, as for most to be totally clueless

Tony Soprano spins in his shallow grave.

>> ^burdturgler:
This is a quite unfair.
First off, gay people appropriated the word "gay".
Beyond this ridiculous semantic argument .. I personally know of priests who had their fingernails ripped out because they would not renounce Christ. They were tortured for days and eventually were murdered and thrown into a shallow grave. This is recently .. within the last 10 years .. I'm not talking about the martyrdom that has taken place for millennia. Whether you share their belief's or not, these were good, honest people who went to dangerous areas all over the world, sacrificing themselves to minister to others.
It's popular to make fun of Catholics but, believe it or not, not every priest is a child molester and most Christian's are not the psychos people make them out to be. The truth is, good, caring Christians have been tortured, murdered and have literally had their brains bashed in long before any gay person thought they coined the term "bashing". They paid for concepts like "intolerance" while they were being eaten alive by lions at a time when homosexuality was completely accepted.
Don't let one list from one group about events in one nation confuse you into thinking that Christians are not "bashed" all the time, around the globe, every day .. and have been for many hundreds of years.
I'm an advocate for gay rights and that's evidenced by my video submissions and comments on the sift. But that's because I'm an advocate for human rights. Being gay doesn't make your suffering more important than others when you are discriminated against or worse .. bashed. Why would any gay person want to own "bashing"? Shouldn't any of this kind of treatment be abhorrent to everyone?
I feel like this video does a disservice to the gay community. Gay people should not be trying to win a "I've been hurt more than you" contest. All this accomplishes is alienating more people to their cause. Which should be everyone's cause .. the fair treatment of all.



I think it is important to note that Christians have been at times, historically--and as you pointed out--recently been assaulted, bashed, lynched, discriminated against, subject to hate crimes and murdered for their religious orientation. No one said that such heinous acts didn't happen to christians, or pretty much every other religion group at one point or another in their history. However, these real crimes are not mentioned in the discussion that this videos author is presenting.

I don't believe that this video is attempting to win a "I've been hurt worse" argument as you have suggested, as such an argument would have to take history in to account (as well as the very real possibility that the majority of crimes against gays in the U.S. are committed by Christians..). The video's author has instead focused on returning the use of words to their definitions so that their meanings are not diluted into obscurity. What would someone say in a call to 911 when their friend is being a assaulted or having their brains bashed in when the meaning of both words was reduced to mean "insult" or even less? Would police rush to the scene of a reported name calling? Should new words that actually have mean something be invented to replace the words we have once their meaning is reduced to nothing?

Now I don't think that words like "attack", "bashing" or "assault" should belong to Gays or any other single group. They should be used when the events they describe actually happen. But the language that the church groups have been using that is cited in this video is misleading. It makes a parody on the meaning of those words. I don't think this should be taken as an attack insult against the Christian groups per se, but against the action they took by misusing (and abusing) language.

Were the offended Christians wronged? Maybe. They have every right to keep tally of insults against them if they feel offended. But over most of what is listed in the "top ten" in this video, one could also expect that a Christian might follow one of their more famous doctrines and turn the other cheek. Instead these few assemble their league of CATL to use very militant words to push politics, not community or understanding as the bible recommends. Christ stood for better than that.

>> ^burdturgler:
This is a quite unfair.
First off, gay people appropriated the word "gay".
Beyond this ridiculous semantic argument .. I personally know of priests who had their fingernails ripped out because they would not renounce Christ. They were tortured for days and eventually were murdered and thrown into a shallow grave. This is recently .. within the last 10 years .. I'm not talking about the martyrdom that has taken place for millennia. Whether you share their belief's or not, these were good, honest people who went to dangerous areas all over the world, sacrificing themselves to minister to others.
It's popular to make fun of Catholics but, believe it or not, not every priest is a child molester and most Christian's are not the psychos people make them out to be. The truth is, good, caring Christians have been tortured, murdered and have literally had their brains bashed in long before any gay person thought they coined the term "bashing". They paid for concepts like "intolerance" while they were being eaten alive by lions at a time when homosexuality was completely accepted.
Don't let one list from one group about events in one nation confuse you into thinking that Christians are not "bashed" all the time, around the globe, every day .. and have been for many hundreds of years.
I'm an advocate for gay rights and that's evidenced by my video submissions and comments on the sift. But that's because I'm an advocate for human rights. Being gay doesn't make your suffering more important than others when you are discriminated against or worse .. bashed. Why would any gay person want to own "bashing"? Shouldn't any of this kind of treatment be abhorrent to everyone?
I feel like this video does a disservice to the gay community. Gay people should not be trying to win a "I've been hurt more than you" contest. All this accomplishes is alienating more people to their cause. Which should be everyone's cause .. the fair treatment of all.


Right. Whatever. Gays get way more shit than Christians.

This is a quite unfair.

First off, gay people appropriated the word "gay".

Beyond this ridiculous semantic argument .. I personally know of priests who had their fingernails ripped out because they would not renounce Christ. They were tortured for days and eventually were murdered and thrown into a shallow grave. This is recently .. within the last 10 years .. I'm not talking about the martyrdom that has taken place for millennia. Whether you share their belief's or not, these were good, honest people who went to dangerous areas all over the world, sacrificing themselves to minister to others.

It's popular to make fun of Catholics but, believe it or not, not every priest is a child molester and most Christian's are not the psychos people make them out to be. The truth is, good, caring Christians have been tortured, murdered and have literally had their brains bashed in long before any gay person thought they coined the term "bashing". They paid for concepts like "intolerance" while they were being eaten alive by lions at a time when homosexuality was completely accepted.

Don't let one list from one group about events in one nation confuse you into thinking that Christians are not "bashed" all the time, around the globe, every day .. and have been for many hundreds of years.

I'm an advocate for gay rights and that's evidenced by my video submissions and comments on the sift. But that's because I'm an advocate for human rights. Being gay doesn't make your suffering more important than others when you are discriminated against or worse .. bashed. Why would any gay person want to own "bashing"? Shouldn't any of this kind of treatment be abhorrent to everyone?

I feel like this video does a disservice to the gay community. Gay people should not be trying to win a "I've been hurt more than you" contest. All this accomplishes is alienating more people to their cause. Which should be everyone's cause .. the fair treatment of all.

>> ^volumptuous:
>> ^thepinky:
I agree that this occurence is interesting and note-worthy, even amusing. I don't mind the upvotes for that reason. But the jubilation that some are expressing at having someone throw shoes at our president just...baffles me.

Personally, I wish it were a lot more than just a fucking shoe thrown at him.
You are talking about someone who is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Someone who is responsible for pushing 1.2 million Iraqi children into the sex trade.
And you're outraged at a fucking shoe?
For someone who is soooo pro-life, you certainly don't give a shit about those lives over in Iraq.


Ya, I bet Iraqis miss the walks out to the middle of the desert to dig those long shallow graves, followed by lining up next to them, and being shot into them or just buried alive. Methinks you need to watch the history channel.