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Secret Service July 14th

newtboy says...

SHOCKER!
I’m correct.
Local police were tasked with 1) clearing and securing that building 2) searching the crowd 3) controlling the crowd and keeping them off structures 4) covering that rooftop with local police snipers 5) responding to being notified there’s a shooter on the roof.
Local police failed at every single step.
They swept the publicly accessible building EARLY THAT MORNING not near the event time, they allowed a crowd within view of the candidate but outside security, they had no one watching those elevated positions or keeping people off them, the local sniper assigned to watch that set of buildings seems to be missing or never assigned, they 100% dropped the ball when they were told a man with a gun was seen in the area acting suspicious long before he was on the roof, and again once when he was on the roof for near a full minute while the crowd pointed and screamed.

Ultimately the Secret Services responsibility, but not their failure. They followed long standing procedure to the T from every report. Still no word on whether there were fewer police than requested…or why….but non payment of dozens of past security bills, sticking it to the venues would be a likely reason if there were.

Another shocker, initial reports are correct, he is a conservative Republican gun advocate (but awful shot) lone wolf white male American. Right wing media reports claiming that he’s really a Democrat who registered Republican to vote against Trump in the primary have been proven to be outright bold faced lies. He was unpopular at his mostly liberal high school because he was a staunch often insulting conservative and did not hide it at all.

bobknight33 said:

"...Were there fewer police/security because the campaign is notorious for never paying them maybe? ??

So you just talking out of you ass again ???

And down vote? Why because the shooter missed?

Supreme Court ruling on Donald Trump immunity

newtboy says...

Lied to? How so….be specific.

😂 Reiterate the oblivious 😂….um…yes. The oblivious felon did make this claim first, the oblivious “justices” did reiterate.

So why is Trump celebrating like he just got a get out of jail free card?


This is not how it’s always been, before this ruling official acts still had to be lawful…not anymore. As long as they’re official acts, they are legal (as far as penalties are concerned) no matter what the law says. That’s what they ruled.
Edit: They did not give the disgraced ex president his claimed total immunity however…if the courts decide fomenting a coup was not an official presidential act, or falsifying documents for fake electors is not an official president’s act, or secretly pressuring a governor to “find” 11000+ votes is not an official presidential act, or taking and withholding classified state secrets and lying about having them to the FBI and actively hiding them from warranted searches after he was no longer president are not official presidential acts, then he still has some serious legal trouble to add to whatever happens next week at his sentencing.

As long as the President is using official powers, what he uses them for cannot be questioned. Biden could assassinate Trump like he claims Biden tried to do 100% legally now, and Thomas, and Alito, and the other corrupt “justices” that invalidated a long cherished institution for money, and anyone he thinks threatens America…100% immune because protecting the nation is a Presidential duty.
Fortunately Trump tried to hide most of his crimes by using unofficial orders to non governmental agents through unofficial channels, so he’s got an uphill climb to argue they are official acts.
The issues listed in the dissent are not extreme or hypothetical, they are in fact campaign promises by the convicted felon and terrorist leader and specific examples argued by the Trump lawyers as things that are (now) legal…like assassination of a political rival.
The court just couldn’t help but try to minimize its extremist ruling that upends 248 years of the rule of law and puts the president above the law when using presidential powers (like assassinations, or cancelling elections, jailing political rivals, disbanding the border patrol, etc.) by calling threats made by those who have followed through on those exact same threats before “fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals"
The president refusing to accept the election results and trying to seize or hold onto power illegally was one example…not extreme or hypothetical or fear mongering, it fucking happened, and this ruling means it may be legal (if considered official).

Biden damn well better make use of this immunity to save democracy or maybe he deserves to lose, he now has carte Blanche to pull anything, absolutely anything as long as he says it’s for America, everything is allowed, nothing is forbidden. I’m worried he has morals and won’t use these new unlimited assassination and coup powers…very worried. I know for an absolute certainty that the other guy doesn’t.

bobknight33 said:

@newtboy

Again you have been lied to by the fake news and Democrat party.

Sadly this had to go to the Supreme court just to reiterate the oblivious. When will you learn -- you are always being lied to about Trump.



SCOTUS upheld what always been. Acts done with in POTUS authority are immune from prosecution. Acts done outside of POTUS authority can be criminal and prostituted. Nothing changed nothing added nothing removed.
From the SCOTUS ruling " the dissents position in the end boil down ignoring the Constitution's separation of powers and the Courts precedent and instead fear mongering of extreme hypotheticals."

Gallagher Explains Pronunciation

newtboy says...

I know this has been posted before, but it doesn’t come up in a search for Gallagher. Hmmmm…is Sifty on drugs again?

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Uh oh….leaked transcripts of the felon’s lawyer’s notes show he knew for certain having the stolen classified documents was a crime and repeatedly tried to get his layer to go along with lying to the DOJ and saying repeatedly “wouldn’t it be better if there are no documents” “shouldn’t we just say there are no documents” “wouldn’t turning over the documents open me up to prosecution or more searches”.
Blows up his “I didn’t know stealing classified state secrets and keeping them in rooms open to the public and lying to theDOJ and FBI about it was wrong” defense…not that that would be a defense in any unbiased court…but he’s got Cannon so it’s a tossup.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Maybe google Abe Hamadeh.

He’s the Trump backed election denying candidate for AZ Congress who lost in 22 and is running again.

His texts have been published, texts where he mocks and ridicules you crazy morons that are believing the big lie that he’s basing his campaign on!

Yep. Like many, he’s running on election denial and calls people like you who believe him and the big lie “crazies”.

Just like all the Fox hosts who fed you the big lie constantly for years but in private we’re laughing their asses off at you morons who believe this stupid obvious lie.

While you’re at it, google Andy Ogles who just admitted lying about a $320k loan to his campaign he “repaid” himself with donations….a loan he insisted for years was real and proper. Also, in Santos fashion, he lied about his entire resume, and collected donations for a “children’s burial garden” that was never built and pocketed tens of thousands in donations from his constituents that had lost children. More real verifiable proven maga corruption you don’t care about.

2) Trump is still telling you the new insane lie that Biden tried to assassinate him based solely on the totally standard rules of conduct listed in the search warrant he was given prior notice of, was coordinated with his secret service detail ahead of time, and that was served intentionally with him out of state.
Greene is publicly calling for Republican retaliation.
I wonder…can you see through this tissue paper lie, or do you believe Trump because he said it happened? Can you admit how delusional you are, or can you admit Trump is lying to you as a test of how stupid and blatant a lie you will repeat?
I’m betting neither, you can’t reply on topic or answer those questions because they require self examination of your beliefs and admissions, something you avoid at all costs.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Bwaaahahahaaaa! Nazi rapist coward Trump now claims Biden tried to assassinate him in the Mar a Lago document raid. (The raid 2 years ago where they found hundreds of stolen classified files Trump has sworn under oath he did not have, the raid they gave him days advance notice of, and the raid they performed intentionally when Trump was not there to avoid escalation and obstruction by Trump.)
He has lost his mind completely, and is telegraphing his intentions to assassinate any political rivals and will use this lie to excuse it.
Recall, Trump’s lawyers are in the Supreme Court right now arguing that assasinating a political rival would have been legal.
Shocker, Manly Traitor Greene is claiming to be the source for this disinformation.

Do you believe it, sucker? I bet you do. You are that dumb.
Come on. Defend your messiah. Joe tried everything possible to murder him and his family and only the shield of Trump’s bombproof intellect and honesty protected them from the assassins bullets. 😂

Truth is they’re trying to convince you that the standard use of force rules on every search warrant that limit when force may be used is an assasination order…and truth is your ilk are so dumb and gullible they believe it.

More fist fighting at official maga meetings…in Maricopa county this time. You nutjobs can’t get along with yourselves, can’t have a meeting that doesn’t end in screaming and fistfights. How do you convince yourselves you could ever legislate?

Uh-oh. Alito’s excuse for flying insurrection symbols at his house, that his wife did it to spite a neighbor, fell apart when photos of more insurrection paraphernalia was photographed on his beach house. Is anyone surprised that a maga justice lied again?

Edit: Manly Traitor has now called on republicans to retaliate…claiming there’s proof Biden tried to assassinate Trump then asked ”what are republicans going to do about it?”. This is a call for maga nutjobs to assassinate Biden. If that happens, it will be open season on maga, anyone who ever flew a trump flag will be up for execution, and their families. It will be civil war that will end America. I fully expect multiple attempts, good thing you morons are so incompetent the assassins will likely shoot themselves.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Who told you he’s a star witness? He’s what’s called a “corroborating witness”. Another inconvenient fact you got wrong. No wonder you ijits are always so mad.

As in his civil trials, Trump is the prosecution’s star witness through his business records, which document the crimes thoroughly….more thoroughly than anyone expected thanks to his cohorts not trusting him and recording or documenting the crimes and keeping those records as protection.

What are you trying to say? You failed again.
Are you attempting to dismiss the information about another $500 million Trump bribe because I didn’t spoon feed you articles you could then summarily dismiss because they aren’t maga propaganda outlets, and you are incapable of typing “Saudis fund kushner hotel” into google? Or are you saying my well thought out and presented factual and informative post was gibberish to you because some words had over 4 letters? 😂
Last time I spoon feed you, infant. Learn how to spell so you can search for yourself. Open wide, here comes the Choo-choo

https://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-faces-backlash-over-new-luxury-hotel-1901668

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/us/politics/kushner-serbia-hotel.html

https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/hotel/serbia-approves-500m-development-project-for-company-affiliated-with-jared-kushner-124318

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-15/trump-son-in-law-jared-kushner-s-saudi-backed-firm-eyes-balkan-deals

bobknight33 said:

Cohen Stole from Trump. So much for the star witness.

No proof for you gibberish

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

lol. So delusional. “Even cnn” has meant diddly squat since the first time you said it months after cnn went far right, firing multiple popular centrist and left leaning hosts and hiring dishonest maggots…which if you had 2 brain cells you would know because you’ve been told a few dozen times with proof, but you don’t, or is it pure dishonesty that has you continuing to attempt to mislead? No surprise you continue to say it, you are incapable of learning or thinking, even when a thing has been proven conclusively with citation and indisputable evidence.

Not sure what you think exonerates Trump there, but you are wrong. “Trump’s “fixer” was a skumbag” is hardly the “gotcha!” You seem to think. Trump was quite public that he was proud he had a criminal thug lawyer working for him, fixing his reputation and helping him not pay bills over and over and over and over through illicit payoffs, perjury, threats, frivolous lawsuits, etc…all for Trump. I know you don’t remember, but look at how he and Cohen acted before 2017.
What’s hilarious is he was apparently honest about this on the stand when asked, continuing to testify honestly about crimes he did when he worked for Trump in a criminal organization surrounded by other criminals…and you think it’s a shocker that he did crimes to benefit himself too!?! lol. You are so silly.
What you missed is he admitted lying about how much REIMBURSEMENT was required for (is it Redfinch, the poll fixing/faking company?), and Trump thinks he’s got him cornered because he paid that inflated reimbursement in full….FORGETTING HIS DEFENSE IS HE DID NOT PAY A REIMBURSEMENT! 😂

Even his legal team says conviction is a certainty if there isn’t a Trumpist on the jury prepared to vote against conviction for purely political reasons. The prosecution has thoroughly proven through evidence Trump’s direct total involvement in the scheme to hide his payoff to the porn star he cheated on his mistress with after cheating on his wife with her (McDougal) for nearly a full year (a story Pecker “caught and killed” to help the campaign with more criminal campaign fraud and massive unreported campaign contributions), hiding the payment through business fraud to help his campaign, which made it campaign fraud too.
Cohen just fills in the details, he doesn’t prove the crimes, mountains of documentation including recordings do. If you think a few minor details like the precise timing of a phone call from 8 years ago
(Edit: uh-oh. Photographs of Trump and Stiller together at the exact time of the call were just entered into evidence. So much for that lie.)
or the biased accusation of tangential crimes totally inconsequential to the crimes Trump committed impeach his corroboration of the documentation in evidence, documentation that proves Trump’s direct personal involvement, or that that somehow might tank the entire case, you are as dumb as I think you are.
This only gives reasonable doubt to someone searching for any excuse to vote against conviction despite all the evidence, someone who was never going to convict under any circumstances. We know there’s at least one, hopefully an alternate.

If you missed it, Friday Trump left court saying his NDA with Daniels must be the only illegal NDA ever, all others are legal but his is determined to be illegal…now stupidly admitting he had an NDA with her, something his lawyers and he have been arguing absolutely never happened.
Again, his press conferences can be admitted to the record and only Trump can contradict them on the stand…which will be his end if he testifies and his end if he doesn’t. Either way his own words are going to hang him.
Again, since you missed it, part of what Cohen was repaid for was paying the company who falsely inflated Trump poll numbers online…yes, PAYMENT TO FAKE POLL NUMBERS. I’m certain you will ignore that, then forget it before reading this sentence, because salient facts don’t matter to your ilk, only ridiculous minutiae you can distract your gnat brain with.

Keep dreaming. How many times have you said that, only to watch your exoneration dissolve in the sunlight? You will never learn though, and will believe anything good for Trump and ignore or deny anything bad or evil…which leaves you 100% divorced from reality living in Trumpist fantasy lie filled world. That’s why your predictions absolutely never come to fruition, they’re all based on a fantasy. It would be sad if you didn’t deserve it.
Keep cut and pasting…The pigeon english is almost too dumb to reply too.
“Even cnn CAN hide this…” !?!
“You orange man bad dream going up….”!?!
I’ve known people with severe brain trauma fresh out of a coma barely able to speak with better brains than yours. 😂

bobknight33 said:

\ Even CNN can hide this fact of Cohen stealing from Trump.




You orange man bad dream going up in SMOKE!

That's all for today, yolks!

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy jokingly says...

Wow. The head of the RNC Laura Trump claims to have lawsuits in 81 states. Impressive! Republicans are so anti American now that their leadership has no idea how many states exist! 81!?! 😂
They are so incompetent don’t have offices open in most states, including swing states! Down ballot candidates are 100% on their own…just that shit covered cinder block that is Trump hanging around their neck as they run for office against fit candidates without baggage. 😂

She also claimed on air that they have inserted RNC operatives into election offices and they will physically be handling and examining and objecting to votes as they come in…which is 100% illegal. Not smart to telegraph that election fraud scheme so early that they can be discovered and prosecuted before the election, but it’s maga, you’re never smart.

Then she goes on to say they will have lawyers stationed at polls, to prosecute any democrats they catch cheating. (Apparently she’s unaware that every vote fraud in the last 8 years was a Republican cheating to help Trump.). Not only is that not how the law works, lawyers don’t do the investigation, it’s also 100% illegal election interference and voter intimidation, and it’s unlikely any actual lawyers would volunteer for something so obviously guaranteed to lose them their license if they’re caught.

Meanwhile in Florida Trump’s lawyers have admitted the FBI never searched a secret hidden room in Trumps bedroom hidden behind a dresser with a secret door, essentially begging the FBI to come raid Mar a Lago again because they missed the most important secret hidden areas (after being told in sworn statements that all documents were accounted for and turned over).

Meanwhile in AZ 18 co conspirators in the election fraud scheme were indicted by a grand jury including the election integrity officer for the RNC who was just indicted on charges of violating election integrity. Far right media won’t cover this story, because they know how awful it is that more MAGA election fraud is FINALLY being prosecuted. Trump is named as (so far) unindicted coconspirator #1 in that indictment.

Meanwhile in DC Trump’s lawyers argue that unless the law used to prosecute the president includes a special provision allowing the law to be applied to the president it cannot be applied and the president is above that law, unprosecutable even after impeachment, and argued that any crimes committed to close to the end of their term to be impeached before leaving office are gimmes…completely unprosecutable under any circumstances, this includes fomenting a coup, murder, rapes, theft, disclosing state secrets….literally anything. They argue that a president is an emperor above all laws and untouchable. If true, Biden will have Trump assassinated November 3rd, then step down on the 8th before impeachment but after winning the election to give Harris the reigns. 😂

Meanwhile in New York Trump was served with more violations of the gag order while he was awaiting the ruling on the first 10 violations of the gag order…so it’s likely he’ll be fined for those and told any more he goes to jail, and he’s already violated it multiple times since his hearing.

Also meanwhile in New York his latest attempt to get a new trial or set aside the Carrol judgement for no legitimate reason was denied. The “L”s just keep coming!

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Hilarious.
I usually provide legitimate verifiable sources, which you always discount for no reason besides they aren’t MAGA, knowing full well MAGA sources don’t report things that look bad for MAGA…duh. What’s the point? You only accept made up stories that fit your ridiculous preconceptions.
Maybe learn to write and type it in google yourself you idiotic fucktard. This is reported literally everywhere news is reported, you really have to shove your head deep into your small intestine to avoid it.

Since you are either incapable or afraid to investigate yourself, here. You lazy idiot.
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kari-lake-arizona-defamation-lawsuit-rcna145375
https://apnews.com/article/kari-lake-stephen-richer-defamation-lawsuit-1feafd7656310f0dc1f8d91e7e376d00
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2024/03/28/judge-kari-lake-lost-rights-to-litigate-richer-defamation-suit/73130262007/

Or just type Kari Lake into YouTube and search just the last week, it’s all about her admission.

Even Lake herself made a press release giving ridiculous nonsensical excuses for admitting her intentional malicious guilt (I won’t give the ridiculous case credibility by participating in it, so I’m just admitting my guilt and asking to be fined…WHAT!?) but admitting it none the less.

Now go ahead and discard the facts as non MAGA sources and continue to live in the dark instead of looking for yourself.

bobknight33 said:

Funny you never provide direct source only blithering commentary

ant (Member Profile)

How to make a Paperclip Cube

BSR says...

I thought the same thing but I'm to lazy to research how others have different words for same things. If I correct the "error" it wouldn't jive as a search word for the original video.

Basically I was cornered.

I'm sure Judge newt boy can settle this.

I have to stop watching the Trump trial.

bremnet said:

Um. Not an engineer or anything, but those aren't paperclips. Retitle?

President Biden Delivers Remarks

newtboy says...

Yes, that kind of clearance, Mr Know Nothing. He had clearance to have every document in his personal possession when he received them, unlike Trump who illegally and secretly stole them from secured facilities. His mistake was trusting his staff to properly forward them to the archives when they packed his senate, and later VP offices.

No, ex senators and ex presidents both don’t have clearance to KEEP classified documents, correct. Trump did not ever have clearance to remove nuclear secrets and other highly classified material from a SCIF, not as president and not after, and it endangers the nation that he did so. It requires written declassification by the DOE, the president cannot declassify nuclear secrets under any circumstances.

The DOJ report indicated Biden did not know his staff had stored a few (6) unlabeled low level classified documents at his secure locked think tank office and personal handwritten notes at his guarded and locked home library (namely a few daily briefs on Afghanistan and some handwritten notes he had made, nothing at all designated top secret), indicated he himself (or attorneys at his instruction) looked for them and immediately reported finding them to the FBI, and allowed them to search that and other properties without requiring a warrant.
The DOJ report also indicated Trump DID know he was illegally taking and retaining highest sensitivity most stringently classified top secret documents by the truckload, not just a small part of one box, refused to return them when asked by the archives, lied about having any, required a warrant for a search, actively hid them when searched, lied again about having MORE, lied about showing them to multiple other parties including foreign agents but was caught red handed on tape, claimed personal ownership (of nuclear secrets), kept them unsecured in public areas, tried to destroy video evidence, claimed they were planted, obstructed Justice multiple times…
…must I go on for you to see the difference, or comprehend why one faces no charge and the other treason?
I’m certain the answer is yes, you haven’t heard enough to admit the situations are completely different despite the fact that one is staff improperly packing up his office when he left it, the other one individual intentionally stealing hundreds of state secrets for personal gain at the nation’s expense…you can never hear enough evidence to admit that.

Is Maddow still on? Sorry Charlie, like I’ve told you a hundred times but you can never recall, I’ve never watched CNN beyond short YouTube clips, not before they went right wing certainly not since. In fact, I think it’s likely that you watch more CNN than I do, you sure like to post and quote them now. If she’s still on and is saying the same things I’m not surprised, she was a smart wonky cookie last I saw.
It’s hilarious when you don’t know my sources, because when you can’t try to impugn the source over nonsense you have no argument at all, just rambling nonsensical insanity spewed from your mouth like explosive diarrhea.

Me thinks you have too little brain in the brain.

😂 Talk about projection! What a confession. 😂

Everything Trump said in that idiotic speech was a lie about Biden and an admission of what he himself did.
I won’t insult your minimal intelligence by pretending you actually believe the delusional ramblings you just posted, they would make a good case for insanity if he believed it, but we all know he doesn’t.
Every word of that insanity was a total fabrication of a delusional mind.

The presidential records act absolutely doesn’t give him the right to take top secret classified documents home when he leaves office, or retain them, or lie under oath about having them, or defy warrants for them, or show them to otherS, NONE OF THAT IS LEGAL UNDER THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT.
Trump obstructed Justice at every possible turn, destroying evidence hiding documents, he still has an unsearched secret room in his bedroom not disclosed when the FBI searched, so likely has MORE stolen documents still. Biden cooperated more than fully with the investigation, which even the political hack Trump appointed special prosecutor admitted.
…and Biden had a grand total of 20 documents or notes designated “classified”, none top secret…Trump had over 325 well marked classified FILES containing multiple classified documents each including I think a dozen or more of the highest most secret files the government has, files never supposed to leave a SCIF and not declassifiable by the president under any circumstances.
Not one word he said was true, and you know it, fool.
That speech if not intentional lies is proof Trumpist Alzheimer’s has progressed to the point of total delusion.

PS- Still waiting.

bobknight33 said:

Not that kind of clearance.
Senators don't have clearance to take and keep classified documents, as the DOJ report indicated.

Me thinks you have too much Rachel Maddow on the brain.

President Biden Delivers Remarks

newtboy says...

Biden had full clearance when his staffers stored documents he was allowed to have that were not labeled classified but turned out to be. None were near the level of classification of the nuclear secrets Trump intentionally stole, none were even clearly labeled classified. He had no knowledge of them being stored there, and thought they were in the national archives, still he did a search himself and discovered them and immediately turned them in, allowing the fib to search for more without warrants.
As POTUS Biden can pardon himself for past mistakes anyway. 😂 He could also pardon Hunter if he wished.

Senators can have security clearance too, dummy…especially if on committees like the foreign relations committee. Derp.
There is no indication that he ever procured documents he didn’t have the clearance to handle.

Trump wasn’t potus so had no remaining clearance or right when he intentionally stole thousands of well labeled highly classified highly sensitive docs on his way out of the whitehouse, and at no time was he allowed to possess them legally outside a SCIF. He was notified by the national archives and he lied about taking them, refused to return them, then lied about having returned them. He knowingly retained them and kept them in unlocked public areas where the public had unfettered access to them proven by the multiple photographs guests took of them. He actively hid them repeatedly when notified of an upcoming search the fbi had to get a warrant for because he refused to let them search for missing documents they knew he had without one. He then tried to erase and destroy the security tapes that prove he did everything I just accused him of, he even ordered a pool be pumped into the room housing the security servers in an effort to destroy evidence, but was so incompetent that they were easily recovered.

Your bulb burnt out 9 years ago when a racist tv idiot and convicted con man announced his candidacy and you said to yourself “that’s my ride or die for life, I just love that man so much it hurts”…but it was just a 5 watt black light bulb to start with….very dim.

bobknight33 said:

As a POTUS Trump is allowed to have classified docs.

Senators ( Biden) are not allowed.

The bulb in this man is dim and fading.



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