Not wanting to get rich in Norway? Not wanting toys? Meh.
Military spending in Norway per capita? We're in 7th place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditure_per_capita

In Scandinavia anyone can get wealthy. Anyone can get a proper college education.

Health care? In the US you spend more per capita than in Scandinavia.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-spending/u-s-health-spending-twice-other-countries-with-worse-results-idUSKCN1GP2YN

I quite prefer the model here, and wouldn't switch for the world.
Sure I pay a lot of taxes - half my salary goes to taxes, and I pay 25% VAT on the rest - but I do get value for my money; education, health care, pension and a good infrastructure.

And hey - to help other countries - how about we add up the military spending we use with with how much we spend on development aid:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_development_aid_country_donors

Thanks all!

My nick is a silly one - a name I made for a character in a role playing game, to show that it was a "savage" character. It has stuck with me as a gaming nick from time to time.

But hey - doesn't this being imply that I could make a channel of my own?

*nordic/scandinavia, *sorrow/sadness, *waitforit, *doublewtf, *somethingelse?

*scandinavia

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The nordic countries are referred to (here in scandinavia at least) as "Norden". So if you want a name for it and looking to impress, say Norden.

@RedSky

1) I never said that wasn't any research showing that rehabilitation can reduce recidivism. I said there's not enough research. The cultural and economic situation of a small European country isn't quite analogous to the current state of the U.S. Also, how does the death penalty not eliminate recidivism entirely? You can't commit crimes if you're dead. Thus, guaranteed results.

2) So by "first-world," you're basically talking about Europe. Does Greenland qualify? They have a murder rate of 19.4. I'll concede that the U.S. has a higher murder rate than Europe. Is that due solely to how we deal with criminals? Possibly, but I doubt it. It certainly doesn't prove that increasing surveillance, enforcement and punishment wouldn't reduce crime rates.

3) Like I said before, most criminals are fully aware of the severity of their crimes. The problem is that they think they can get away with it. Harsher penalties mean nothing without the enforcement to back them, which is why I suggested increasing surveillance and enforcement in addition to harsher penalties. You need both in order to provide an effective deterrent.

4) If you can provide more data than Scandinavia's recidivism rates, I'll gladly accept that rehabilitation can work in the U.S. But even then, rehabilitation will never reduce recidivism completely whereas death would. Is it realistic to expect the U.S. government to enact the death penalty for all crimes? No, not at all. It's unrealistic to expect them to enforce breeding restrictions too. That doesn't change the fact these things would reduce crime rates. If we're stuck on realism, the likelihood of the government ever adopting a rehabilitation policy like in Norway's is pretty low.

5) One could just as easily argue that crime in Venezuela is a result of drug trafficking dominating the country, resulting in corrupt police and politicians that let the cartels do whatever they want. You exclude third-world countries because they undermine your argument. Third-world countries have a lot of poverty, yes, and nobody is going to deny the correlation between poverty and crime. However, they also suffer from a distinct lack of police surveillance and enforcement, either because the police are corrupt or there simply aren't enough to sufficiently enforce the law in all areas.

So shall we now go country by country until we find one that fits your bias? So, not Scandinavia?. Not Europe? On to Australia. So, tell me: what specifically about Australia makes it unique? What data do you have to support your claim(s)? What is your claim, actually? What's the "strong streak of socialism" that exists in Australia (and no where else?) and and how has it served Australia to be the exception to the rule?

Such economic rules are the same no matter the country. It's like gravity. But if you want to pursue it, then send me the specifics. What specific laws are you talking about? What specific regulations? What makes Australia "socialist?"

And we take it from there.

@oritteropo
"[Norway's] stats of 20% recidivism after 2 years compares fairly favourably with the United States statistics of 80% after 3, wouldn't you agree?"

You are controlling for ethnicity, right? Or not?

Scandinavians in the US do just as well as they do in Scandinavia, in the same way that East Asians in the US have just as low crime rates as they have in East Asia.

(Actually, Scandinavians do even better in the US than in Scandinavia, but not by a huge amount.)


So no, Scandinavians' crime rates in Scandinavia don't compare favorably with Scandinavians' crime rates in the US. They do great in both systems.

Whatever stats they have for Norwegians reforming after a stint in prison are temporary.

Scandinavia's gang-rape and street crime rates have already skyrocketed.

It's only a matter of time before they realize the people they've been importing who have low academic scores and high crime rates have a different ideology and much worse prison reform stats.

Nah - was thinking more about countries and cultures - in Norway (and Denmark, for that matter), the local f-words are much more common and "acceptable" than the english ones in the english culture. One single "f-bomb" is enough for several to mark a video as NSFW - in Scandinavia the corresponding swear words wouldn't make anyone bat an eyelid..

This is one unit as defined in the UK. In Denmark (and Scandinavia in general), the same limits were recommended in public health announcements, although "one unit" of alcohol in Scandinavia is 15.2ml - about one and a half times as the unit defined in the UK (10ml).

>> ^Fusionaut:

What country is the best? Somewhere in Scandinavia I'd wager...


My bet right now would be Denmark.
But, with their education system I think Finland will be next.

What country is the best? Somewhere in Scandinavia I'd wager...

Scandinavia represent!

^There was one a while ago with @gwiz665 @Crake and @JesseoftheNorth.