You're back in the saddle with the top hat cat. Nice.

It doesn't have a saddle on it, so they won't think it's real.

>> ^NordlichReiter:
that is creepy. The creationists are gonna go crazy over that one!

Semantic games here. Delving into the true nitty-gritty of political politics makes me wish there was a clear-cut language for expressing ideas.

In programming, binary trees have a very specific definition. You wouldn't confuse a binary tree for a linked list even though they're similar.

In politics, it seems possible to say things like this, and get people to go along with it. He makes the following assertions (as they sound to me):

1. Acting on individual freedom > acting on collective good
2. "Small" government supports individual freedom
3. Government "size" is based on how much money (tax) it costs
4. Government "size" is based on how much control it has over you
5. Corporate action is individual freedom
6. Democrats act for the collective good, but it costs money to do that
7. Republicans act for the good of a few, with the express intent of increasing the control of government over people
8. Democrats and Republicans are therefore both the same
9. This is why FDR was bad for creating the Food and Drug Administration (?)

He also says "history has proven statism leads to disaster", which is a bit silly -- at best you can say history proves the elimination of free markets within a state ruins a state's ability to compete in a global free market. If you read history with a somewhat less opinionated view, you might notice that there are plenty of cases where the evil "government programs" did good throughout the world, including right here in the U.S. of A, particularly those alphabet soup programs FDR created.

There's no guarantee any human plan will lead to success, and while there are certainly cases where individual programs have failed to achieve the desired effect, there's insufficient evidence to declare that statism is so fundamentally flawed that it cannot possibly work. It's not the answer to everything, but it can work sometimes.

The way I see it, even if I treat #1-#5 as givens, just listening to his statements of #6 and #7 should immediately call into question whether what's being done by each party is really morally equivalent, simply due to the difference in intention, if nothing else.

Personally, I consider #1, #2, and #5 to be unproven assertions in need of serious scrutiny. To me, "collective good" is always the goal. The great thing about America (and this free market thing we pretend to have invented), is that it turns out you can do a lot of collective good by increasing individual freedom from where it was in the middle-ages.

Nowadays, people seem to believe the only kind of individual freedom that matters is the freedom from taxes. Nevermind the freedom to go to whatever doctor they want, never mind the freedom to buy food be sure it's safe, never mind the freedom to go to any college you can get accepted to (without being saddled with massive debt).

Other countries consider us backwards for the way we limit our citizen's freedom in that way. I'm not sure why making me free to fend for myself is so great, when it's not like my salary (even if I paid no tax) makes up the difference in the "market" cost for not having those freedoms.

To equate that with the Republicans, who want to limit civil rights along with civil services? Madness, sheer and utter madness.

I'd almost think such an argument was designed to encourage a vote for a 3rd party (or in this case, a sub-party). But no, Ron Paul would never, ever use propaganda, would he?

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I read a follow up about this. The couple accused had apparently stolen a saddle and were attempting to cover up their tracks.

This is the best I could find - it's a video of a tv screen and doesn't include the "rape, murder, arson, and rape" guy.

In reply to this comment by swampgirl:
Crap, I can't find a replacement. There are similar clips but not the one I used. Mine started at the beginning of the registration and ended seeing the KKK guys.

In reply to this comment by jonny:
haha - I love that line. I use it whenever I can. I'll probably never have another opportunity like I did on my first day working at a PET center. We were given radiation badges to measure cumulative radiation dosages, so I turned to my friend that hired me and said, "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!". The whole room lost it.

[edit] I just went to view and vote for your vid, but it's dead.

In reply to this comment by swampgirl:
Hilarious. I think I posted the first half of that scene. When the bad guys were registering and saying "we don't need no stinking badges"


In reply to this comment by jonny:
Thanks! Funny, I thought you'd like the this one more.

In reply to this comment by swampgirl:
*promote

Crap, I can't find a replacement. There are similar clips but not the one I used. Mine started at the beginning of the registration and ended seeing the KKK guys.

In reply to this comment by jonny:
haha - I love that line. I use it whenever I can. I'll probably never have another opportunity like I did on my first day working at a PET center. We were given radiation badges to measure cumulative radiation dosages, so I turned to my friend that hired me and said, "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!". The whole room lost it.

[edit] I just went to view and vote for your vid, but it's dead.

In reply to this comment by swampgirl:
Hilarious. I think I posted the first half of that scene. When the bad guys were registering and saying "we don't need no stinking badges"


In reply to this comment by jonny:
Thanks! Funny, I thought you'd like the this one more.

In reply to this comment by swampgirl:
*promote

haha - I love that line. I use it whenever I can. I'll probably never have another opportunity like I did on my first day working at a PET center. We were given radiation badges to measure cumulative radiation dosages, so I turned to my friend that hired me and said, "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!". The whole room lost it.

[edit] I just went to view and vote for your vid, but it's dead.

In reply to this comment by swampgirl:
Hilarious. I think I posted the first half of that scene. When the bad guys were registering and saying "we don't need no stinking badges"


In reply to this comment by jonny:
Thanks! Funny, I thought you'd like the this one more.

In reply to this comment by swampgirl:
*promote

>> ^sometimes:
why does anyone think that saddling someone with a $200,000+ debt due to an accident of biology is admirable?

Owning the consequences of your actions shouldn't have to be admired. If you're old enough to be having sex, you either need to take extra measures to ensure you're baby-proof (that "condoms are uncomfortable" line is bullshit. Wear it, or prepare to shell out child support) OR own up to your actions.

Besides that, there have only been two cases I can think of where women have been too fat and stupid to know they're pregnant until they get to the hospital after they're in labor. There's absolutely no excuse for third-trimester abortions. If you know you won't be able to support a child, there are plenty of opportunities to "execute" it before the third trimester rolls around.

maybe if she dropped the saddle bags.
j/k. she's a cutie.

http://www.videosift.com/talk/Comedian-Harvey-Korman-dies-at-81
http://www.videosift.com/video/Blazing-Saddles-KKK-Disquise-at-Bad-Guy-Registration-Line

He was a great comedic character actor.

Choggie,
I hereby send you this video.
Tonia - Texas-Cowboy-Pferde-Sattel-Verkäuferin (Horse saddle saleswoman)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1CCZPmSNok
Viel spaß!

Eklek

Glad you appreciated it I found it delicious too.
Found it from here: http://bash.org/?top

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Hahaha, holy shit, that's hilarious. Autokicks taking out the room's bot? Massive win.

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Hahaha, holy shit, that's hilarious. Autokicks taking out the room's bot? Massive win.

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