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Zifnab (Member Profile)

How would you categorize yourself religiously? (User Poll by xxovercastxx)

xxovercastxx says...

>> ^Boise_Lib:

Ignoring context.
The context in which I use the word believe was a juxtaposition between the belief in science, and reason and the Belief of Believers.
Do you see the difference?
Both use the same word in much different ways. One means a belief in a system which self-corrects and is always adjusting to make a model of the universe which is always getting closer to the underlying truth. And one is a faith based rejection of any change or adjustment in the rock-hard adherence to previously set down TRUTH.
Do I have to explain how I just used the juxtaposition of differing uses of the word truth now? Or, do understand the context?
Because of the condescending tone of your reply; go ahead and see this as an attack.
[Edit of the first statement:
I said people resist being categorized. I should have said that some people resist being categorized. Many people relish the chance to say, "I'm with this group."]


Not sure which part of my post came off as condescending or why. I was just trying to respond to your points.

When I read your original comments on the word "believers", I understand your point to be that non-religious people might "believe" in "science and reason" and might then be considered "believers". Maybe that wasn't your point, but my reply was based on that. I think the question makes it clear that this is not the belief I'm asking about. If, however, someone wants to claim something along the lines of "science and reason are my religion", then they may feel free to classify themselves as believers in the poll.

Sorry again for my tone. It was unintentional.

How would you categorize yourself religiously? (User Poll by xxovercastxx)

Boise_Lib says...

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^Boise_Lib:
I think this post shows that people resist being categorized.
Lumping together "others" is condescending and can easily be taken as an insult. Also, the term "believers" is an extremely loaded term which some people--I for one--see as excluding. I believe in science and reason. Many monotheists BELIEVE so intently that they have dismissed all evidence--including independently verified scientific evidence--and even admit that they will dismiss all evidence which contradicts their prejudices (definition of dogma).
Please don't see this as an attack xxovercastxx. I see what information you wanted to get out of this--and I'm interested in what results might come out of this--but a poll (IMOHO) will only be seen as pigeonholing. Maybe if you simply asked what beliefs people hold you would get more information (as alway mixed with smartassed remarks--this is Videosift after all).

You might not understand what loaded means if you think "believer" is a loaded term. "Stupid believer" or "righteous believer" would be loaded terms.
As for your belief in science and reason, that's ignoring the context. I asked how people would classify themselves religiously. Unless you think science and reason are religions, your belief in them is irrelevant. Though, if you do think they are religions, feel free to call yourself a believer. This poll is all about self-identifying.


Ignoring context.

The context in which I use the word believe was a juxtaposition between the belief in science, and reason and the Belief of Believers.

Do you see the difference?

Both use the same word in much different ways. One means a belief in a system which self-corrects and is always adjusting to make a model of the universe which is always getting closer to the underlying truth. And one is a faith based rejection of any change or adjustment in the rock-hard adherence to previously set down TRUTH.

Do I have to explain how I just used the juxtaposition of differing uses of the word truth now? Or, do understand the context?

Because of the condescending tone of your reply; go ahead and see this as an attack.

[Edit of the first statement:
I said people resist being categorized. I should have said that some people resist being categorized. Many people relish the chance to say, "I'm with this group."]

mountain top hiking

packo says...

ULTRA EXTREME
I'm not living if I'm not risking my life for no good reason
and if the stuff I'm doing doesn't have a rock hard metal song as a soundtrack, then it really just isn't EXTREME enough

I'm ready to take myself out of the gene pool. I'm just looking for the most moronic way to do it.
Feels like sex. While skydiving. Into a pool of starving sharks. And me having open wounds.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah yeah!

Porkka Playboys - Ace of spades (In a sauna!)

Dad Catches Foul Ball While Holding Daughter

wormwood says...

And how. I'm sure I can hear the pop of rock-hard ball on rigidly raised palm. And look at the way his hand is just hanging there afterwards. Ouch!
>> ^critical_d:

Girl = "yep..that's my Dad!!"
Dad = "oww-oww-oww-hand hurts-oww"

Conan's Beardpocalypse - Will Ferrell Shaves The Beard

I love Asus

Xax says...

It's "ay sus." And they're Rock Hard and Heart Humping or some stupid shit like that. Couldn't they afford a translator when coming up with their idiotic tag line?

Israeli's Drive To Clear Palestinians Off The Road

SofiaRusso (Member Profile)

Look Who's Talking! ..Palin

choggie says...

^if you ignore the vapid cunt she'll go away.....I KNOW!!?? Let's start the ball rolling by never posting another piece of shit news cast from FOX, or another fucking clip of Palin, ever again!!

Look, it's not about how stupid the "right" is and how enlightened the "left", its about the distraction of following the goddamn major media whatsoever-Do the world a favor, boycott media. Write affiliates and break down their character with insults. Boycott their advertisers. All the ineffectual discussions combined here on VS regarding the news media does absolutely nothing to correct the problem, to destroy the machine of disinformation the world is immersed in right now.....the current propaganda machine in the world is enough to make Joseph Goebbels' cock, rock hard.

I would like to see Rachel Maddow and Sarah Palin fisting each other on a stack of damp midgets....

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