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McCain defending Obama 2008

BSR says...

Restraint is the best attribute of the powerful.

BTW, what's the record for most comments in a Sift thread?

dag said:

Quote hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Ain't nobody getting banned today. I appreciate everyone's restraint. I find it helps to imagine real people behind the keyboard.

McCain defending Obama 2008

The Kind of Story We Need Right Now: Server Bodyslams Jerk!

Digitalfiend says...

I'm not horrified by what was shown in the video. Not in the least. I'm just interested in the gender bias and how it affects application of the law.

With regards to your comment about physical size, what if a young (or just petite) male server weighing 130-140lbs, was groped this way by a heavier woman? Would he then be justified in throwing her down? I suspect the media outcome would still be different and result in the male server being charged. This is gender bias because men are supposed to "suck it up".

As I said, if a man grabs a woman or shoves another man, he should expect to get blasted in the face. I was brought up to never hit a woman (or anyone really) and do believe men need to show more restraint in confrontations with aggressive women because men are typically stronger and, probably on average, more physically capable in a fight.

Getting off topic a bit, but the problem I have with the modern feminist movement is that it is becoming much less about equality between the sexes and more about gaining an upper hand on men. Many modern radical feminists seem to want to be treated equally until it doesn't suit them. So I agree with you that modern society has gone a bit crazy trying to say that there are no differences between men and women. But that is getting off topic.

bcglorf said:

Wow, I really must be getting old. Why is society becoming so horrified by physical violence? If you grab someone like this, getting punched out is not an escalation of violence, but an appropriate deterrent.

As for between men and women, I think this is a situation where you have to be willing to offend the extreme feminists by observing that men and women although equal, are also different. A 115lb women assaulted by a 170lb man warrants a different response than a 170lb man assaulted by a 115lb woman. IMO, the larger stronger man can more easily afford to warn the woman to not repeat the offence prior to a physical response. It also seems to me that society disagrees and thinks they should be considered and handled identically, but I think society has that wrong.

Cyclist Tired of Waiting for Bomb Squad

Digitalfiend says...

While I generally agree, I think the cop that violently tackled the guy from behind was a bit overzealous. Did the cops even tell the guy to stop what he was doing or lay down/surrender? I didn't hear anything (but perhaps they did). That tackle was painful though - look at how the cop trapped the man's arms so he couldn't even protect his face from the fall. Brutal. The cops could have used a bit more restraint or commonsense...but yes, I agree that the guy that ran up to the bag put himself in harm's way.

ChaosEngine said:

Jesus, what a fucking idiot. He put everyone at risk because he was too impatient to wait.

The fact that it turned out ok does not in any way excuse his behaviour.

Virgin Atlantic: Flying with kids!

newtboy jokingly says...

13 hours?!? Hell no. That is not OK.
They need to implement a kids section with a soundproof bulkhead....and restraints....or even child free/child friendly flights for trips that long.

Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson: Trump is Clueless on North Korea

newtboy says...

To be fair, we tried pretty damn hard to stop big Kim from grabbing control in the first place. The price ended up being too high for us (America) then (during the Korean war), and the expected cost of forced regime change today is much higher, multiple millions of lives and rising constantly as lil' Kim's arsenal rapidly grows.
The multifaceted fiasco that is N Korea may prove unsolvable, but our current course has a predictable, unacceptable outcome.
I agree we need leaders with wisdom....also restraint, intelligence, diplomacy, and a high level of comprehension of the situation as seen from multiple viewpoints. Sadly I don't see those qualities exemplified by either of the men who count most in this situation.

shinyblurry said:

It seems strange to argue that we need to protect the North Korean economy so that the people don't suffer..when they are suffering so horribly under their latest dictator and have been for decades. They don't need a better economy, they need regime change.

The moment to do that was a long time ago. Now the price to do that is far, far too high..yet we can see that the price of allowing a nuclear North Korea which can terrorize the world with nukes and sell them to terrorists is much higher still.

What do we do? I really don't know. I am praying for wisdom.

How not to be Angry all the Time

bamdrew says...

Patience and restraint are a product of appropriate expectations.

Expectations should be a product of experience, but often are guided to be overly optimistic by our betting nature.

'I should have left earlier but if I make every traffic light I'll be fine... aaaahhh why are these traffic lights all making me late!'

Insane woman assaults legal e-bike rider on public path

Chairman_woo says...

I can only take the video author at his word, but he claims to have repeatedly attempted to deescalate before he started filming.

And even then, the video begins with him attempting to explain that she has no legal right to detain him in an even tone of voice.

The woman appears belligerent and is acting well outside of her legal rights by physically blocking him.

I think the guy acted with remarkable restraint under the circumstances. The woman shows no signs of being open to reason or changing her mind.

Some people simply cannot be reasoned with. And I say that as a mental health worker who deals with rude and belligerent people constantly. (frighteningly often not the service users but the general public they have to deal with)

I do entirely feel the sentiment of what you are saying. It would be a better world, but it's not the world we live in. Lamentably, wishing will not make it otherwise.

bareboards2 said:

Upvoting this video unseen so that folks can see the comments by Crushbug and Babymech.

Please. Oh please. What have we devolved to that what they said is anything other than common sense, humane, and civilized?

Anger is contagious and literally lethal. Can we just chill out and deescalate?

I say that as someone who gets pretty mad at times. I need to follow my own advice.

"The Political News Media Lost Its Mind"

BSR says...

When you are the most powerful nation in the world, restraint is your best attribute.

bobknight33 said:

*WTF

What a fool

Obama is ignoring this fighter planes flying 10 ft from an US ship Time and Time again. Obama is a pussy for not standing up for Americans and issue stern warnings and retaliation. But pussy Obama replacement is a sold out crook or Trump who is standing up for Americans on so many levels.

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Bernie is not backing down

nock says...

Ummm...No. This is not a valid point. Sitting presidents generally support the presumptive nominee of their party. Obama actually exercised a lot of restraint by waiting this long, especially since Bernie's chances at the nomination have been dismal for weeks.

notarobot said:

@10:00 "It's inappropriate for a sitting president to give his support to someone who is running for a nomination."

Lady has a point.

Canadian police arrest girl 2 weeks before her death

bcglorf says...

I'm from Manitoba myself and the juxtaposition of the video showing great restraint by the officer with this quote from the article is my main reason for posting:
Leah Gazan, an Indigenous activist and University of Winnipeg professor, said the officer could've used less forceful tactics to restrain Kokopenace

I don't want to downplay the obstacles faced in the US by African Americans, but I feel really strongly that race relations in Canada between Aboriginals and the country is in a MUCH worse place.

In Canada the past and history between aboriginals and Canada still has been ignored more often than it has been met head on. For both good and ill reasons over our history, we've had a two tiered system of laws that treat separately with you based on whether you are native or not. Originally this was oppressive of native communities, but now it's often the other way around:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/judges-must-weigh-cultural-factors-in-native-sentencing-court-rules/article535585/

The greater problem to try and solve is Canada's native reserve system. Native people living on reserves are more often than not growing up in 3rd world conditions. The worst part is, proposing changes to that system is itself 'racist' against aboriginals. Our reserve system is systematically destroying generations of people based upon their race, and nobody seems to be able to fix the thing .

kir_mokum said:

i wasn't entirely sure where this took place since it was from CBC manitoba but it was OPP that arrested her.

to your next point, this doesn't show anything extreme but the linked article makes me wonder why she had to go to the hospital and what she died of. it wouldn't be crazy if she was beaten in custody. there is severe racism for first nation in the police force canada wide. but obviously we don't know. there are a lot of pieces missing to this story.

Angry Spear Fisherman Vs. Giant Grouper

artician says...

*promote doesn't work when edited into an existing comment!
noob error.

This guy would drown, and it would be hilarious, if his life didn't depend on his self restraint in this situation.

Kitty Has Had Enough of Your Sh*t

petpeeved says...

Poor cat.

Based on its incredible restraint and limited retaliation, I imagine it might be thinking that it is living with a bunch of bears and that it knows actually hurting one of the cubs could be very bad for its future.

San Antonio ISD Officer Bodyslams 12 Year Old Girl

newtboy says...

...and....FIRED.
The school super intendant has also sent the case to the Texas Rangers for possible criminal charges after seeing the video, which completely contradicted the officer's report on the incident where he called her fall 'accidental' and had not reported his use of restraints as he's required to.

FunkMonkey said:

I shouldn't watched that. I'm fucking pissed now. He better lose his job. Wow, just wow.



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