>> ^westy:

You are aware that deregulation of the market is what cussed the current economic climete ?

To a point yes, but not in the way you think. What caused the problem was throwing loans to people who should never have gotten them via forced regulation of the mortgage system. A lovely harkening to the days of Clinton, Carter and others. While various democrats in power screamed "racist" whenever reforms were sought to tighten the controls back up. It's pretty damn obvious to anyone who's lived outside the US. You don't allow high risk loans to risky people, but the government not only said it was okay to do it(freddie and fanny), but forced the banks to do it otherwise they'd loose their secured depositor status.


It doesn't help that 100 years of Keynesian economic policies(aka lets throw money at it), didn't help either. Keynesian solutions sow their own doom in the future, either by steering a sector of the market, or by trying to fully steer various markets.





>> ^Asmo:


http://www.becker-posner-blog.com/2010/04/american-wage-stagnatio
nposner.html

Never mind losing their job, or their house. It's hard to live the American dream when you're unemployed and facing being homeless...
You can understand why the working class are getting pissed and the republicans are scared shitless about it. And holdouts like QM, with his quaint little almost racial slurs and real bad ass insults (occupoopers... lol, what are you, 6? Or is that your IQ?), are just a pebble before the avalanche. Europe goes under and the US slides back in to recession, you may well see a decent reenactment of the French revolution on Wall St.


Wait, you think it's the republicans that the public are pissed at? Do you even look at the polling data and methodology? They're tired of the new "hope and change" which equaled broke, and I'm out of a job. Hell if you run the correction numbers since Obama and the dem's took office, the unemployment rate would be up around 11%. The "occupiers" are a subset of a subset of people, who don't even come close to reflecting the mainstreet. Republican's aren't scared of that, though the Dem's who supported them sure seem to be. Since the occupiers poison touch sure has tanked many dem's numbers who 'supported' them.

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http://www.becker-posner-blog.com/2010/04/american-wage-stagnationposner.html

Between 1997 and 2008, median U.S. household income fell by 4 percent after adjustment for inflation. It presumably did not rise in 2009, and may not in 2010 either. A median is not an average; average income rose because the incomes of high earners rose, and so the effect was to increase the inequality of the income distribution.
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Never mind losing their job, or their house. It's hard to live the American dream when you're unemployed and facing being homeless...

You can understand why the working class are getting pissed and the republicans are scared shitless about it. And holdouts like QM, with his quaint little almost racial slurs and real bad ass insults (occupoopers... lol, what are you, 6? Or is that your IQ?), are just a pebble before the avalanche. Europe goes under and the US slides back in to recession, you may well see a decent reenactment of the French revolution on Wall St.

Racial slur at 1:10.

It's been pointed out that you can find this sort of thing all over America, but the part I don't understand is why anyone, at any point in history, would name anything using that word? Or any racial slur, or words with a negative, hateful meaning behind them?

Unless if what you're naming is something you don't like, of course.

>> ^EMPIRE:

first of all, don't even DARE to try to somehow compare what I said to some sort of racial slur. It is not, and it's not even in the same league, and you should be fucking ashamed of yourself for pulling that one out of your ass.
Secondly, there is a GRAND CANYON of difference between someone who doesn't believe everything the media outlets and governments put out there, and someone who thinks the moon landings were faked, that there is some vast global conspiracy, that there are reptilians, etc. There's a whole universe of shades of gray.
If you think he's a nutcase, then I really don't understand you. you certainly felt attacked, because I said people who listen to him are morons, just like him. And that's what he is A MORON of EPIC proportions. And people who buy that shit are so as well. (well, actually he may not be an actual moron, just someone who preys on the stupidity, and gullibility and ignorance of others).


A generalized statement about a certain group of people is a generalized statement. I was using those as examples of generalized statements people make about certain groups of people. Not comparing your statement to bigotry.

Actually, you didn't say "people who listen to him are morons", you said this: "Conspiracy theorist are all idiots. Seriously. At least as bad as religious extremists. Bullshit evidence for bullshit beliefs."

That's a generalized statement saying that everyone who is a conspiracy theorist is an idiot. So yes I felt personally attacked and insulted. Just because someone is a conspiracy theorist does not mean they believe in all the ignorant conspiracy crap floating around on the internet or everything Alex Jones or any other idiot like him says, etc. One must have common sense. And yes he's a parasite. He makes money off of other people's ignorance. He's no different than a televangelist as far as I'm concerned.

first of all, don't even DARE to try to somehow compare what I said to some sort of racial slur. It is not, and it's not even in the same league, and you should be fucking ashamed of yourself for pulling that one out of your ass.

Secondly, there is a GRAND CANYON of difference between someone who doesn't believe everything the media outlets and governments put out there, and someone who thinks the moon landings were faked, that there is some vast global conspiracy, that there are reptilians, etc. There's a whole universe of shades of gray.

If you think he's a nutcase, then I really don't understand you. you certainly felt attacked, because I said people who listen to him are morons, just like him. And that's what he is A MORON of EPIC proportions. And people who buy that shit are so as well. (well, actually he may not be an actual moron, just someone who preys on the stupidity, and gullibility and ignorance of others).

>> ^MaxWilder:

>> ^xxovercastxx:
>> ^MaxWilder:
>> ^xxovercastxx:
>> ^MaxWilder:
The word Raccoon is sometimes shortened to Coon, which is a fairly nasty racial slur.
I think you're really stretching for this one. The slur "coon" is thought to come from the Portuguese "barracão" ("shed") which is what they called slave quarters. It's got nothing to do with raccoons.

Yes, there is some debate about the etymology of the racial slur. But that does not change the FACT that the word Raccoon is sometimes shortened to Coon, which is a fairly nasty racial slur.

"Coon" is a racial slur when it refers to black people, not when it refers to raccoons. Just like "cracker" is a racial slur when it refers to white people but not when it refers to saltines.
You seem desperate to call this guy a racist.

If I was to show a video of a bunch of white southern law enforcement officers, then make a dumb joke about them eating crackers, one might legitimately infer that I was referencing the insult "cracker".
This man made a reference to a raccoon (who eats raccoons??) while talking about a black person. And you think it's a stretch? I'm really giving him the benefit of the doubt when I say he just might be oblivious.


Yeah, a huge stretch. Also, "who eats raccoons??" Funny enough, crackers do.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^MaxWilder:
>> ^xxovercastxx:
>> ^MaxWilder:
The word Raccoon is sometimes shortened to Coon, which is a fairly nasty racial slur.
I think you're really stretching for this one. The slur "coon" is thought to come from the Portuguese "barracão" ("shed") which is what they called slave quarters. It's got nothing to do with raccoons.

Yes, there is some debate about the etymology of the racial slur. But that does not change the FACT that the word Raccoon is sometimes shortened to Coon, which is a fairly nasty racial slur.

"Coon" is a racial slur when it refers to black people, not when it refers to raccoons. Just like "cracker" is a racial slur when it refers to white people but not when it refers to saltines.
You seem desperate to call this guy a racist.


If I was to show a video of a bunch of white southern law enforcement officers, then make a dumb joke about them eating crackers, one might legitimately infer that I was referencing the insult "cracker".

This man made a reference to a raccoon (who eats raccoons??) while talking about a black person. And you think it's a stretch? I'm really giving him the benefit of the doubt when I say he just might be oblivious.

>> ^MaxWilder:

>> ^xxovercastxx:
>> ^MaxWilder:
The word Raccoon is sometimes shortened to Coon, which is a fairly nasty racial slur.
I think you're really stretching for this one. The slur "coon" is thought to come from the Portuguese "barracão" ("shed") which is what they called slave quarters. It's got nothing to do with raccoons.

Yes, there is some debate about the etymology of the racial slur. But that does not change the FACT that the word Raccoon is sometimes shortened to Coon, which is a fairly nasty racial slur.


"Coon" is a racial slur when it refers to black people, not when it refers to raccoons. Just like "cracker" is a racial slur when it refers to white people but not when it refers to saltines.

You seem desperate to call this guy a racist.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^MaxWilder:
The word Raccoon is sometimes shortened to Coon, which is a fairly nasty racial slur.
I think you're really stretching for this one. The slur "coon" is thought to come from the Portuguese "barracão" ("shed") which is what they called slave quarters. It's got nothing to do with raccoons.


Yes, there is some debate about the etymology of the racial slur. But that does not change the FACT that the word Raccoon is sometimes shortened to Coon, which is a fairly nasty racial slur.

I'm sure you are correct, but do you think this guy knows the etymology of a racial slur?

It's just dang weird and that surely is not up for debate, is it?

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^MaxWilder:
The word Raccoon is sometimes shortened to Coon, which is a fairly nasty racial slur.
I think you're really stretching for this one. The slur "coon" is thought to come from the Portuguese "barracão" ("shed") which is what they called slave quarters. It's got nothing to do with raccoons.

>> ^MaxWilder:

The word Raccoon is sometimes shortened to Coon, which is a fairly nasty racial slur.

I think you're really stretching for this one. The slur "coon" is thought to come from the Portuguese "barracão" ("shed") which is what they called slave quarters. It's got nothing to do with raccoons.

>> ^xxovercastxx:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/MaxWilder" title="member since November 7th, 2007" class="profilelink">MaxWilder: How is this a racism issue? Is there a stereotype about blacks eating live raccoons that I don't know about?


The word Raccoon is sometimes shortened to Coon, which is a fairly nasty racial slur.

Taken to an interpretive extreme, one could make the argument that he was stating that Michelle was eating herself metaphorically, since such an unhealthy meal went against what she has been promoting for children. However, I don't think the speaker is intelligent enough to have consciously intended that meaning.

I have to say, this, and particularly the way the media is covering it, is just making me burst out with laughter.

I mean, they're going totally apeshit about it. Halperin apologized for it, then was suspended from MSNBC, then fired as an MSNBC contributor.

People on other channels who want to talk about it give some big preamble warning about how the following clip might contain offensive language, but they're not going to bleep it...

I mean for God's sake, it's not like he used some racial slur, or even one of the 7 Words You Can't Say on Television...

*controversy

>> ^bareboards2:

We white people[...]

Racial generalizations like that are really out of place here! I don't know who the white burdturgler is around here, but I'm sure he is highly offended!

Jokes aside, I don't think bk should be banned for his comment. He didn't judge black people in it, nor did he say it is right to call them by a racial slur. I'm not saying that his statement wasn't motivated by racism, but if you ban him for that statement you'd have to ban every guy who comments "I'd do her" on a video featuring a female, because that would be as sexist as bks statement was racist (IMHO).

In the end I'd rather see bad and semi-offensive comments on this site and see them downvoted than don't see them at all. IMO that would be much more of a characteristic of a great community than outright banning people for voicing their opinion, no matter how flawed their views might be.