Sweet Zombie Jesus….Tennessee Republicans are trying to erase age limits for marriage so they can marry and legally have sex with preteen children in the name of outrage over legal gay marriage.
The alternative marriage bill, hb 233. No age limits. “Trust us” they say. “It’s ok to not put limits on it, no one will abuse it.”

So many prominent Republicans are going down this SEX WITH CHILDREN route in the last 5 years, Roy Moore, Matt Gates, Jim Jorden, Trump, I could go on… now entire Republican state legislatures are trying to make child “marriage” legal….wtf happened to you guys? Are tax cuts for the rich really worth literally everything else, including your children?

This is the movie that came to mind instantly upon reading the title. For the times this film was quite the thriller, and i probably watched it a half dozen times as a preteen.

Hard to have a discussion when the basic psychological concept that is endemic in society is not understood by one side of the conversation. Not really worth trying to dig out of that hole, in my opinion.

I do like your idealist view of how people SHOULD be. We aren't that way, of course. I wish it for all our futures.

Including men, and the internalized messages they get that warp their view of the world.

I have contended for years that men are in a much worse psychological state than women. We at least are encouraged to delve into our emotions, with varying degrees of success. Poor men are told to buck up and be "men". What a horrible thing to say to a little boy, or a preteen, or a teenager, or a young man entering adulthood, or a grown man dealing with a difficult world. No wonder men die earlier than women. The pressures they are under are enormous, with no way to relieve that pressure.

Generally speaking. There is a movement that has been gathering steam that is encouraging men to become more fully themselves.

The hike was great, albeit too short. We don't have great big waterfalls here on the Olympic Peninsula. It has been raining a lot lately. The waterfall that we visited was THUNDERING. I have never seen a thundering waterfall here.

Then again, I don't normally hike in the winter.

As for the weather... some Norwegian told a friend of mine -- There is no bad weather. Only bad clothing.

My clothing was fine, aided by the fact it started raining after we headed back home.

>> ^lucky760:

>> ^poolcleaner:
>> ^lucky760:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.
It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.
Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.

What isn't physically "hot" about her? It's never dawned on me that she is anything but. Do you mean hot like stick figure vomit faced model hot, cuz that ain't hot -- that's obnoxious. Or do you mean that her body isn't as toned as that of a hot womans? Either we have a different standard of beauty or I'm misunderstanding a piece of the hotness puzzle.

When I look at her I see an adolescent girl, and I don't tend to regard who I perceive to be young-looking, underdeveloped girls as hot pieces of ass. I'm realizing that one key requisite in my standard of hotness is the piece of meat woman must actually look like a (grown-ass) woman, and not a (still-maturing) teenager.
But that's just me.

I guess it depends on the context. Puppies are cute too.

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Cute = perceived jailbait

I'll remember that next time I go to flog myself for my sins.

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>> ^poolcleaner:

>> ^lucky760:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.
It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.
Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.

What isn't physically "hot" about her? It's never dawned on me that she is anything but. Do you mean hot like stick figure vomit faced model hot, cuz that ain't hot -- that's obnoxious. Or do you mean that her body isn't as toned as that of a hot womans? Either we have a different standard of beauty or I'm misunderstanding a piece of the hotness puzzle.

When I look at her I see an adolescent girl, and I don't tend to regard who I perceive to be young-looking, underdeveloped girls as hot pieces of ass. I'm realizing that one key requisite in my standard of hotness is the piece of meat woman must actually look like a (grown-ass) woman, and not a (still-maturing) teenager.

But that's just me.

Cute = perceived jailbait

I'll remember that next time I go to flog myself for my sins.

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>> ^poolcleaner:

>> ^lucky760:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.
It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.
Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.

What isn't physically "hot" about her? It's never dawned on me that she is anything but. Do you mean hot like stick figure vomit faced model hot, cuz that ain't hot -- that's obnoxious. Or do you mean that her body isn't as toned as that of a hot womans? Either we have a different standard of beauty or I'm misunderstanding a piece of the hotness puzzle.

When I look at her I see an adolescent girl, and I don't tend to regard who I perceive to be young-looking, underdeveloped girls as hot pieces of ass. I'm realizing that one key requisite in my standard of hotness is the piece of meat woman must actually look like a (grown-ass) woman, and not a (still-maturing) teenager.

But that's just me.

>> ^poolcleaner:

>> ^lucky760:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.
It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.
Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.

What isn't physically "hot" about her? It's never dawned on me that she is anything but. Do you mean hot like stick figure vomit faced model hot, cuz that ain't hot -- that's obnoxious. Or do you mean that her body isn't as toned as that of a hot womans? Either we have a different standard of beauty or I'm misunderstanding a piece of the hotness puzzle.

When I look at her I see an adolescent girl, and I don't tend to regard who I perceive to be young-looking, underdeveloped girls as hot pieces of ass. I'm realizing that one key requisite in my standard of hotness is the piece of meat woman must actually look like a (grown-ass) woman, and not a (still-maturing) teenager.

But that's just me.

>> ^lucky760:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.
It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.
Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.


What isn't physically "hot" about her? It's never dawned on me that she is anything but. Do you mean hot like stick figure vomit faced model hot, cuz that ain't hot -- that's obnoxious. Or do you mean that her body isn't as toned as that of a hot womans? Either we have a different standard of beauty or I'm misunderstanding a piece of the hotness puzzle.

>> ^lucky760:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.

Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.
It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.
Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.


I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, lucky, but your eyeballs are broken. Mila Kunis is smoking hot. That's not my opinion; that's fact.

>> ^VoodooV:

>> ^lucky760:
She looks a bit like Elvira Mistress of the Dark in this video.
I find it odd that everyone finds her so "hot." She's cute and seems like a fun person to hang out with, but not so much hot really.

maybe it's because she IS cute and IS fun to hang out with MAKES her hot?
Shocking, I know, but some people find qualities other than the physical to be hot.


Not quite, but of course it depends on how you choose to interpret the term "hot." The most common application of the word in describing a person is in reference to their physical and, more specifically, sexual attraction.

It's atypical, to say the least, for a person to describe someone as hot in reference to a list of traits excluding their physicality. You hear "Man, that chick is totally just-okay looking and built like a preteen boy, but she is so effing hot, Broseph. I totally don't wanna do her, but I would enjoy hanging out having a conversation and glass of lemonade with her. She's scorching hot! High five!" not so much.

Cute? You betcha. Winning personality? So it would seem. Hot? Mmm... Big negatory on that one, Kimosabe. But let's just agree to disagree.

>> ^KnivesOut:

Great kid. Don't get cocky.>> ^albrite30:
>> ^KnivesOut:
>> ^albrite30:
>> ^KnivesOut:
OK that confirmed pretty much every pre-teen wet dream I ever had.

PRETEEN? PRE...TEEN?!! What about POST TEEN wet dreams???

It's not a wet dream if you aren't sleeping. Then its just jerking off to Star Wars.

Look buddy it sounds obscene if you use the term... "jerking off to star wars". I prefer to "fire my quad laser cannons" heh


Not to be cocky or anything, but I did say Quadlaser cannon, not Turbolaser cannon. In order to qualify to have a Turbolaser, nature usually makes you black. heh

Great kid. Don't get cocky.>> ^albrite30:

>> ^KnivesOut:
>> ^albrite30:
>> ^KnivesOut:
OK that confirmed pretty much every pre-teen wet dream I ever had.

PRETEEN? PRE...TEEN?!! What about POST TEEN wet dreams???

It's not a wet dream if you aren't sleeping. Then its just jerking off to Star Wars.

Look buddy it sounds obscene if you use the term... "jerking off to star wars". I prefer to "fire my quad laser cannons" heh

>> ^KnivesOut:

>> ^albrite30:
>> ^KnivesOut:
OK that confirmed pretty much every pre-teen wet dream I ever had.

PRETEEN? PRE...TEEN?!! What about POST TEEN wet dreams???

It's not a wet dream if you aren't sleeping. Then its just jerking off to Star Wars.


Look buddy it sounds obscene if you use the term... "jerking off to star wars". I prefer to "fire my quad laser cannons" heh

>> ^albrite30:

>> ^KnivesOut:
OK that confirmed pretty much every pre-teen wet dream I ever had.

PRETEEN? PRE...TEEN?!! What about POST TEEN wet dreams???


It's not a wet dream if you aren't sleeping. Then its just jerking off to Star Wars.

>> ^KnivesOut:

OK that confirmed pretty much every pre-teen wet dream I ever had.


PRETEEN? PRE...TEEN?!! What about POST TEEN wet dreams???