I never claimed to or would say I speak for all of any group. Congrats on assuming.

I fail to see how fighting against equal protection for trans people under hate crime laws isn't transphobic. And his flimsy defense of "it will force me to call someone something i dont want to" isn't true of the bill in the slightest if you read the thing and mostly a smoke screen for his distaste for trans acceptance. The place where Peterson works adopted almost identical protection for trans individuals in 2014. But he hasn't noticed or been effected... because it doesn't do what he thinks.

And your analogy is stupid and reductive. Someone being upset they can't call people "faggot" anymore because of PC nonsense doesn't put you on the same level of marginalized groups fighting for basic rights anymore than his refusal to accept that trans people get to self identify / get equal protection puts him anywhere close to the trans and gay people fighting at Stonewall for the right to exist.

Regardless of all of that, I wasn't talking to you and I was offering someone who seemed genuinely interested in the other side some view of that side. I'm not interested in the vitriol from some rando on the internet who has made being "anti-sjw/anti-feminist" an identity.

1. You don't speak for all trans/POC/gays etc, so you can only describe your personal experience. There are a number of documented trans people who agree with Peterson and don't want the state strong arming people in to mouthing the words...

2. Peterson does not promote transphobia, he resists being forced to speak certain words. They are not synonymous. If the fuckwits yelling their heads off spent the time to listen, they'd understand that.

3. Peterson was fine with the idiots at the event chucking a trantrum because it showed them up to be the intolerant idiots, not him. He was calm and reasonable, and if they had listened to him then put questions to him, they may have advanced whatever cause they claim to represent. Instead they came across as a pack of morons. /shrug

4. You talk about drawing lines around things, lines that should not be crossed, but without people daring to propose going outside those lines, gay rights would not be a thing... You see? It takes a brave person to step outside the lines and propose something that may be offensive to some. Same with women rights, transgender folk etc.

5. You have the right to be offended. You do not have the right to not be offended.

6. Mobs strongarming people in to silence has far more to do with Nazi ideology than resisting being forced to speak certain words. It's okay to punch Nazi's right?? \= )

I don't mind Rex's appearance, and I can say I usually agree -- and intrigued when I don't -- with his views, but what irk me most about watching his shows lately (that is, about the past 4~5 years) is his creeping smug delivery. It isn't showing in this particular segment though. But man... when he does it, I always goes "Is this at all necessary?"

Back to the topic at hand. Progressives really needs to get its act together. Juvenile crap like these zerg rushes are not serving anyone or any worthy causes. Just more ammunition for the Right to dismiss your argument.

You think Peterson's a wacko? Then let him talk all he wants to let others form their opinion that he's a wacko. I'd rather listen to him and try to figure out what the hell made him act/talk that way then give him the opportunity to say he's a PC "victim."

I did find a CBC article which quotes a statement released by a coalition of student groups and faculty opposed to the invitation of Peterson. Quotes are in the bottom paragraphs.
Honestly though I doubt you will get much from them, I really can't think of a rationally justifiable reason for this kind of behavior.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/mcmaster-debate-with-controversial-professor-jordan-peterson-disrupted-by-activists-1.4031843

Your video, WWII Vet Richard 'Bud' Peterson on The Etiquite of War, has made it into the Top 15 New Videos listing. Congratulations on your achievement. For your contribution you have been awarded 1 Power Point.

This achievement has earned you your "Pop Star" Level 7 Badge!

In the immortal words of Geoff Peterson: Hahaha, that was awesome.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'ella, fitzgerald, awesomeness, thelonious monk, 1961, oscar peterson' to 'Ella Fitzgerald, awesomeness, thelonious monk, 1961, oscar peterson' - edited by jonny

Hello... Honda?

This is Mr. Peterson. Would you mind, explaining to me, how you manage to take a beloved movie, with a gorgeous Ferrari, and bastardize it by replacing the Ferrari with boring CRV?

Pardon my French, but you're an asshole!

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I found links to the Scientific American article "Science of Juggling" at Professor Arthur Lewbel's tribute to Claude Shannon. I didn't check the quicktime movie linked there, but suspect it cuts off at the same point as this yt embed.

Googling around for that article also led to Juggling by Design by Ivars Peterson.>> ^Mammaltron:

...don't leave me in suspense, what about the mathematical analysis of juggling?

Predisposed to hating cops with all your passion... You know, I had bad experiences with black people in my past, but that does not mean I did what you did--most of my friends are black and I am so glad for that. "But races are different than profession!" Yes, yes they are--but the reasons for the hate would be the same.

>> ^longde:

That's probably true, but another source of moral ambiguity (and here is probably where we strongly disagree) is that it is not clear who is in the wrong, here. I don't automatically assume that a cop chasing a perp is a good guy chasing a bad guy. It's due to my expereinces, since I have been on the receiving end of some bad cop behavior. But unless I see the perp snatch the purse, I will not jump to help the cop.
>> ^MarineGunrock:
It's not like you'd have to wait thirty minutes for the cops to get there. Were you to tackle him, the cop would be there in a matter of seconds. Also, I never said you have to yell out "MY NAME IS JOHN PETERSON AND I LIVE AT 342 MAPLE LANE!!!"
>> ^longde:
Mr. Gunrock, you are being quite unreasonable. I think everyone that has opined on this issue would help you out in the life and death situation of your house being on fire.
But the video in question is alot more morally/ethically ambiguous than dousing the fire on a neighbor's house.
For one, we don't know the details. Secondly, even if we did, how many people have the training to properly intervene in this scenario?
It's not as simple as tackling the suspect and collecting the key to the city. There are substantial legal and liability questions to consider. I have a responsibility to my family that overwhelmingly outweighs risking our finances and my life in a situation that I know nothing about. (I guess I am too jaded to automatically assume that every cop is a 'good' guy, and everyone who runs from them are 'bad')

That's probably true, but another source of moral ambiguity (and here is probably where we strongly disagree) is that it is not clear who is in the wrong, here. I don't automatically assume that a cop chasing a perp is a good guy chasing a bad guy. It's due to my expereinces, since I have been on the receiving end of some bad cop behavior. But unless I see the perp snatch the purse, I will not jump to help the cop.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
It's not like you'd have to wait thirty minutes for the cops to get there. Were you to tackle him, the cop would be there in a matter of seconds. Also, I never said you have to yell out "MY NAME IS JOHN PETERSON AND I LIVE AT 342 MAPLE LANE!!!"
>> ^longde:
Mr. Gunrock, you are being quite unreasonable. I think everyone that has opined on this issue would help you out in the life and death situation of your house being on fire.
But the video in question is alot more morally/ethically ambiguous than dousing the fire on a neighbor's house.
For one, we don't know the details. Secondly, even if we did, how many people have the training to properly intervene in this scenario?
It's not as simple as tackling the suspect and collecting the key to the city. There are substantial legal and liability questions to consider. I have a responsibility to my family that overwhelmingly outweighs risking our finances and my life in a situation that I know nothing about. (I guess I am too jaded to automatically assume that every cop is a 'good' guy, and everyone who runs from them are 'bad')

It's not like you'd have to wait thirty minutes for the cops to get there. Were you to tackle him, the cop would be there in a matter of seconds. Also, I never said you have to yell out "MY NAME IS JOHN PETERSON AND I LIVE AT 342 MAPLE LANE!!!"

>> ^longde:

Mr. Gunrock, you are being quite unreasonable. I think everyone that has opined on this issue would help you out in the life and death situation of your house being on fire.
But the video in question is alot more morally/ethically ambiguous than dousing the fire on a neighbor's house.
For one, we don't know the details. Secondly, even if we did, how many people have the training to properly intervene in this scenario?
It's not as simple as tackling the suspect and collecting the key to the city. There are substantial legal and liability questions to consider. I have a responsibility to my family that overwhelmingly outweighs risking our finances and my life in a situation that I know nothing about. (I guess I am too jaded to automatically assume that every cop is a 'good' guy, and everyone who runs from them are 'bad')

^Thank you, Peter G. Peterson. Would you like some John Birch Society with your Glenn Beck this evening?

The funny part is that you think we're the puppets of elitists.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

safesearch: off
>> ^spoco2:
Cassandra Peterson, Google Image Search... I'll say no more.

safesearch: off
>> ^spoco2:

Cassandra Peterson, Google Image Search... I'll say no more.