Is that the "gun" the kid had and was point / waving? A colt 1911. A great hand gun to have, no orange tip? Where is parental control on this?


video of the incident
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2014/nov/26/cleveland-video-tamir-rice-shooting-police



It seems to me that since the cops pulled up directly on the kid they had not choice except for self protection.

That being said the cops should not have pulled up that close but close enough to have a stand off and have the kid surrender the weapon.

>> ^messenger:

Buddhism is a religion. A religion doesn't have to have gods. Perhaps what you mean is Buddhism isn't a religion that requires total control. Jainism is another example of a religion without gods.
I didn't make clear my point about laws, etc. and control: I'm reading into your comments that anything that is about control is always a bad thing, or is always for nefarious purposes. I got this impression because you ended your argument with the conclusion that religions are all about control, as if that was a slam-dunk making them all cults. I pointed out a series of other instances where requiring control over a person wasn't evil, and was even benevolent. This should lead to the conclusion that a religion that asserts control over someone's life may be doing so with good intent. I also did this to highlight the difference between "control" and "excessive control" which you left out. Parental control is normally a good thing. Excessive parental control is a bad thing. Where's the line between control and excessive control? Dunno.
I think you overstated your challenge to me, as there is no religion that requires the relinquishing of free will. They either require or suggest self-control in certain areas, if that's what you mean, but none require relinquishing all decision-making, not even the extreme ones like Jainism, orthodox Judaism, or fundamentalist Islam.>> ^A10anis:
Buddhism is not a religion in the context of this discussion. Neither is the law etc! That said, I will gladly concede, if you can name me a religion/cult which does not require total submission and the relinquishing of free will. I'm done...>> ^messenger:
All faiths do not have the same agenda. That's a ridiculous statement, even if you restrict it to long-established religions. For example, Buddhism seeks to help you find the best person you can be for its own sake, not for the service of some higher power. That's not excessive, and equating it with Scientology in terms of degree of control is not accurate. As for control, yes, all systems --both religious and secular-- involve control. This includes laws, government systems, psychotherapy and parenting. You left out the word "excessive". It's important. Cults are perceived to have excessive control. What constitutes excessive is a matter of debate or personal opinion, but tarring them all with the same brush is still simplistic.

You are a moron, fond only of the nonsense you spout.You have nothing of intellect to convey, so be quiet and know your place...

Buddhism is a religion. A religion doesn't have to have gods. Perhaps what you mean is Buddhism isn't a religion that requires total control. Jainism is another example of a religion without gods.

I didn't make clear my point about laws, etc. and control: I'm reading into your comments that anything that is about control is always a bad thing, or is always for nefarious purposes. I got this impression because you ended your argument with the conclusion that religions are all about control, as if that was a slam-dunk making them all cults. I pointed out a series of other instances where requiring control over a person wasn't evil, and was even benevolent. This should lead to the conclusion that a religion that asserts control over someone's life may be doing so with good intent. I also did this to highlight the difference between "control" and "excessive control" which you left out. Parental control is normally a good thing. Excessive parental control is a bad thing. Where's the line between control and excessive control? Dunno.

I think you overstated your challenge to me, as there is no religion that requires the relinquishing of free will. They either require or suggest self-control in certain areas, if that's what you mean, but none require relinquishing all decision-making, not even the extreme ones like Jainism, orthodox Judaism, or fundamentalist Islam.>> ^A10anis:
Buddhism is not a religion in the context of this discussion. Neither is the law etc! That said, I will gladly concede, if you can name me a religion/cult which does not require total submission and the relinquishing of free will. I'm done...>> ^messenger:
All faiths do not have the same agenda. That's a ridiculous statement, even if you restrict it to long-established religions. For example, Buddhism seeks to help you find the best person you can be for its own sake, not for the service of some higher power. That's not excessive, and equating it with Scientology in terms of degree of control is not accurate. As for control, yes, all systems --both religious and secular-- involve control. This includes laws, government systems, psychotherapy and parenting. You left out the word "excessive". It's important. Cults are perceived to have excessive control. What constitutes excessive is a matter of debate or personal opinion, but tarring them all with the same brush is still simplistic.

Lack of government -- Bullshit.. its a lack of parental control.

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That sucks. I've heard of that hinge flaw. I hope, at least, they are fixing it for free. To be honest- I've always thought the MBA was a bit of an inferior product. Sure, it's thin and light- but what else does it have going for it?

I'm starting to notice some definite bruises on other Apple products. Things that have pissed me off lately:

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>> ^ant:
NSFW for the audio!


The sound of a woman weight-lifting in a disco lounge is NSFW? News to me. Maybe you should NSFW your mind!

Pervert.

Well said.

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>> ^KnivesOut:
For the love of all that is holy, can we please retire the word "FAIL"? This wasn't even a "fail", the device worked perfectly.


To be fair, though, it does provide a pretty robust way to identify videos not worth the time it takes to view them.

>> ^KnivesOut:
For the love of all that is holy, can we please retire the word "FAIL"? This wasn't even a "fail", the device worked perfectly.


To be fair, though, it does provide a pretty robust way to identify videos not worth the time it takes to view them.

Hillary is wrong on this. I think if legislation were called for, it would say something along the lines of "all game companies need to provide tools to allow parental controls on their consoles".

I didn't like the whole "Hot Coffee" scandal with GTA. The ESRB retroactively changed the rating of the game to AO, because it was hypothetically possible to hack the game to show two people humping like a softcore porno.

That doesn't sound like a big deal, except no US retailer will sell AO-rated games at all, and they were pulling it off the shelves almost as soon as the ESRB changed the rating.

That's kinda why WoW has built-in parental controls in it.

It's a server setting. Instead of chunks of gibs and blood, confetti and party balloons burst out when you get killed! I'm not too sure but I think it's also used for the Parental Controls as a more kid-friendly alternative for discerning parents.

I'm sorry I almost finished this, but it began to get a little boring. Sorry. Do adults really need an experiment to learn what will happen w/o tv? Just turn it off?

I respect parents that have taken them out, at the same time I don't think there's a problem with a child watching a favorite program or two once a week.

TVs today have parental controls and dvr boxes which we use extensively. The child can pick his/her favorite program or two...it gets recorded. The rest of the time the tv is locked with a password.

During school session, the video games wait till the weekend and child can watch his recorded shows then too. No problem.

It is true...if your child isn't a strong reader, or if you're having trouble getting your child to read, the tv and games must go COMPLETELY.

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And you're absolutely right about VS! We're starting school up again this week, so maybe I should give an example huh?

I guess they don't know about WoW's parental controls to restrict the time playable on an account.