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Bill Maher ~ New Rules (May 4th 2012)

messenger says...

But it's only their people who can worship there. How can tax deductions for religious be justified in the first place? Who even came up with that idea? Stupid.>> ^Mikus_Aurelius:

>> ^SDGundamX:
Making sure that art is available to all people and not the exclusive domain of the privileged few who can afford it is a worthy goal in my book.

I guess in some other people's books, building beautiful buildings where people can worship is a worthy goal. I wouldn't expect everyone to agree with your interpretation of what is a good use of money and what isn't.
Personally, I'm a big fan of the arts too, and certainly benefit from those who support it extravagantly. The question is whether those supporters need their donations subsidized by the government (who in turn takes money from the food/shelter/college budget of middle class families).

Bill Maher ~ New Rules (May 4th 2012)

Mikus_Aurelius says...

>> ^SDGundamX:

Making sure that art is available to all people and not the exclusive domain of the privileged few who can afford it is a worthy goal in my book.


I guess in some other people's books, building beautiful buildings where people can worship is a worthy goal. I wouldn't expect everyone to agree with your interpretation of what is a good use of money and what isn't.

Personally, I'm a big fan of the arts too, and certainly benefit from those who support it extravagantly. The question is whether those supporters need their donations subsidized by the government (who in turn takes money from the food/shelter/college budget of middle class families).

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Bill Maher ~ New Rules (May 4th 2012)

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Bill Maher ~ New Rules (April, 27th 2012)

Bill Maher ~ New Rules (April, 27th 2012)

Bill Maher ~ New Rules (April, 27th 2012)

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Bill Maher ~ New Rules (April, 27th 2012)

Bill Maher ~ New Rules (April, 27th 2012)

Bill Maher ~ New Rules (April, 27th 2012)

Bill Maher New Rules 4/20/12

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Bill Maher New Rules 4/20/12

Skeeve says...

As I said, the quote is my own, from another video on the subject.

As for the toxicity of ammonia, here is a link to the Health Effects portion of the CDC's Toxicological Profile for Ammonia.

Lots to read, but basically it shows that, except in huge doses of concentrated ammonia, ammonia is readily converted by the liver into urea (hence the ammonia smell of urine). Ingesting ammonia in quantities that are harmful (though still not fatal) causes burns, and ulceration of the mouth. Obviously if there was that much in the food, there would be a problem.

The report points out, "In a study of volunteers, ingestion of a single ammonium chloride tablet (approximately 15 mg NH4+/kg/day) led to a small transient increase (33% above fasting levels) in arterial blood concentrations of ammonium ion in 11 out of 20 subjects (Conn 1972); no change was noted in the remaining nine subjects in this group.[...]These data indicate that ingested ammonia is readily absorbed from the digestive tract and that the liver plays a large role in removing it from the blood (Conn 1972).



Basically, the FDA allows the use of ammonia to sterilize food products because, 1. the quantities needed to harm a human would cause said humans not to eat the products and 2. being naturally occurring, and necessary for life (for the provision of nitrogen for amino acid synthesis), the ingestion of ammonia in these quantities has no long-term health effects.

I'm not trying to argue that eating that pink goo is good for you - but the obsession with the ammonia is the wrong approach to attacking it. Phosphorus, sodium, potassium, magnesium, etc. are also poisonous in the right quantities, and they are also all necessary for human life.

If there is any common thread to my rants here on the sift, it's that people attacking the wrong subject, regardless of their intentions, makes them look stupid and reduces their credibility to those of us who care to know the truth. I completely agree with Maher's point that the republicans just attack anything the liberals support, but when he makes that point using misleading/wrong information, he's just as bad as them.>> ^Yogi:

>> ^Skeeve:
While I don't disagree with Maher's point, I'm getting really sick of people screaming about the ammonia used to treat the pink goo that is turned into chicken nuggets. As I said regarding another video:
"ammonia is a natural chemical that is necessary for human life. The amount of ammonia one would have to ingest to be harmful to a human is huge, and actually ingesting that much would be unthinkable because of the horrendous taste it would impart to the food."

This is like seeing someone sprinkle some sodium-free salt on their food and saying, "OMG that's potassium chloride! That's the lethal chemical in a lethal injection! That's going to kill you!!"
People just don't seem to care that a lot of chemicals that are popularly considered "toxic" are necessary for life or require unfathomably large doses to be harmful.

Where the hell is that quote from and is there any truth to it is what needs to be asked. To me that sounds like something a PR person would say, like in that video about Global Warming where they made the point that "CO2 is natural".
You've got more to answer for Skeeve and if you don't I'm bidding you a hearty GOOD DAY To You Sir!

Bill Maher New Rules 4/20/12

Yogi says...

>> ^Skeeve:

While I don't disagree with Maher's point, I'm getting really sick of people screaming about the ammonia used to treat the pink goo that is turned into chicken nuggets. As I said regarding another video:
"ammonia is a natural chemical that is necessary for human life. The amount of ammonia one would have to ingest to be harmful to a human is huge, and actually ingesting that much would be unthinkable because of the horrendous taste it would impart to the food."

This is like seeing someone sprinkle some sodium-free salt on their food and saying, "OMG that's potassium chloride! That's the lethal chemical in a lethal injection! That's going to kill you!!"
People just don't seem to care that a lot of chemicals that are popularly considered "toxic" are necessary for life or require unfathomably large doses to be harmful.


Where the hell is that quote from and is there any truth to it is what needs to be asked. To me that sounds like something a PR person would say, like in that video about Global Warming where they made the point that "CO2 is natural".

You've got more to answer for Skeeve and if you don't I'm bidding you a hearty GOOD DAY To You Sir!

Bill Maher New Rules 4/20/12

Hipnotic says...

Hm odd. I didn't add anything.
The Embed is shown as
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when I edit it... Does that look wrong?
>> ^radx:

Why does this embed need access to MS's Ajax CDN? No other DM embed requires anything of the sort, and neither does this one if I submit it myself.

Real Time with Bill Maher New Rules -- 3/16/2012



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