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Feynman - Los Alamos Censhorship (funny)

oritteropo says...

From what I recall (from reading his books, and a biography) he was young and wanted to help the war effort. I think the quote was his, but also that if he had been a bit more mature he would probably have still done the same... just not without considering the consequences.

The safe cracking etc. was just thumbing his nose at authority, being a smart alec, and trying to point out that the regulations were stupid and the safes weren't that secure... the directive sent out in response was that everybody should keep their safes locked while Feynman was about.
>> ^dannym3141:

@Yogi
I understand. I don't know the history of it, but perhaps his inclusion was in some way not optional? Or perhaps he felt morally obliged to help. If he merely suspected that he had expertise valuable to the protection of his country, he may be easily coerced into doing something to protect his family, or some other propaganda story.
I remember reading a scientist's musings on helping develop the bomb, but i can't remember who it was. It may well have been feynman but i did a project on einstein recently, could have been him. I belive they said something to the tune of working really hard in conjunction with other great minds to develop something, almost for the pride of developing it, but also for their country, and not considering the consequences of what they were working on. Only in retrospect did they wish they had considered their actions first.
My brain wants to tie that story to this, because it would fit nicely and explain why he didn't just leave. I'll try and find the information.

Feynman - Los Alamos Censhorship (funny)

dannym3141 says...

@Yogi

I understand. I don't know the history of it, but perhaps his inclusion was in some way not optional? Or perhaps he felt morally obliged to help. If he merely suspected that he had expertise valuable to the protection of his country, he may be easily coerced into doing something to protect his family, or some other propaganda story.

I remember reading a scientist's musings on helping develop the bomb, but i can't remember who it was. It may well have been feynman but i did a project on einstein recently, could have been him. I belive they said something to the tune of working really hard in conjunction with other great minds to develop something, almost for the pride of developing it, but also for their country, and not considering the consequences of what they were working on. Only in retrospect did they wish they had considered their actions first.

My brain wants to tie that story to this, because it would fit nicely and explain why he didn't just leave. I'll try and find the information.

That moment when the band realizes they've made it (0:16)

alien_concept says...

>> ^CheshireSmile:

M&S is my all time favorite band. i plan on getting that coat of arms behind them tattooed on me.


Yeah, I think they may be replacing Muse as my favourite band too and I never thought that was going to happen. They were supposed to be releasing their new album last month, where is it?!?!

Rodrigo y Gabriela - Diablo Rojo

It's a Snap - Central Institute of Technology

spoco2 says...

Yeah, that's pretty darn awesome.

From the Youtube (which, ywah, is the Central Univeristy's own youtube channel... and I have to say I had NEVER heard of them prior to this, but it is way over in Western Australia, so I'm not surprised, being an East coast boy and all.):


SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR PARTNERS
Central Institute of Technology
Muse Bureau musebureau.com
Creative Legal creativelegal.com.au
Frisk Coffee
The Brass Monkey
Nando's
140 William


So is endorsed.

I just went to these guy's website and found this is part of a '7 steps to superstardom' thing. Episode one was pretty darn funny. I like the cut of their jib

Muse don't like to lip-sync

Muse "Lip Synching" on Italian TV

Muse "Lip Synching" on Italian TV

Muse "Lip Synching" on Italian TV

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Muse -- Stockholm Syndrome (live @ Glastonbury '04)

WikiLeaks' Brilliant MasterCard Commercial Parody

Confucius says...

$500,000 house arrest fees? wtf....how about you wikileak your daily expenses assange. Thank god hes under house arrest otherwise what would it cost to keep him afloat? If you havent, you should really look up Julians inner musings on his sexiness and irresistibility...heres a small sample.

"I've always found women caught in a thunderstorm appealing. Perhaps it is a male universal, for without advertising this proclivity a lovely girl I knew, but not well, on discovering within herself lascivious thoughts about me and noticing raindrops outside her windows, stood for a moment fully clothed in her shower before letting the wind and rain buffet her body as she made her tremulous approach to my door and of course I could not turn her away.

"But then, just when one might suspect that men are krill to the baleen of female romantic manipulation, I found myself loving a girl who was a coffee addict. I would make a watery paste of finely ground coffee and surreptitiously smear this around my neck and shoulders before seducing her so she would associate my body with her dopaminergic cravings. But every association relates two objects both ways. She started drinking more and more coffee. Sometimes I looked at her cups of liquid arabicia with envious eyes for if there were four cups then somehow, I was one of them, or a quarter of everyone one of them..."

A deposition of an honest insurance adjuster---I swear it!

criticalthud says...

yeah somehow we've idly watched this go down. not everyone of course, but a very large percentage of the populace, whether through propaganda or socialization, is both complacent and stuck on warped ideas of status and achievement. We've idolized the rich, even though they mostly schemed their way to the top at the expense of everyone. But "consumerism" as a psychological movement has really supported these notions...and has really helped keep us self-focused and self-indulgent....and our focus on our own individual accumulation of goods, status, and wealth blinds us to what is happening all around us. we erect our own psychological barriers to higher awareness.

and there seems to be a vast difference between awareness and what we normally consider to be intelligence. what do you think?

Consumerism continually tells us how smart, special and awesome we are in order to sell us goods. They don't sell on the quality of the good. they sell to the emotional side of us. Like religion, they convince us that we're special, and entitled.

i think the problem with that is that when we buy into how smart, special, and awesome we are, our self-centered psyche then misses what is happening around us.
How smart are we when mass extinction is occurring on this planet, global warming threatens our very existence, and crooks are stealing our future from under our noses?
i think we need to get over ourselves
imho

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

They complain about Wallstreet greed---but isn't mainstreet evil too? (@NetRunner and @dystopianfuturetoday) The 99% must change first, me thinks... (P.s., I will still respond to the other thread--hopefully tonight. This comment was just a musing of mine.)

A deposition of an honest insurance adjuster---I swear it!

NetRunner says...

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

They complain about Wallstreet greed---but isn't mainstreet evil too? (@NetRunner and @dystopianfuturetoday) The 99% must change first, me thinks... (P.s., I will still respond to the other thread--hopefully tonight. This comment was just a musing of mine.)


The 1% wrecked the entire world with their greed, economically and physically. The 1% have all the power. This guy ultimately works for one of them (because we all do), and is trying to make a living under a system of incentives that they created.

If he wants to eat, he needs money. If he needs money, he needs to work. If he wants to work, he has to do what someone else tells him to do. If he tries to just go get the food without first getting money, men with guns will come to toss him in jail. (You know, liberty freeberty)

In this case, they probably give him bonus incentives that are designed to marry his self-interest to the 1%'s objectives as profiteers. They probably pay out a bonus for keeping insurance payouts below a certain target, which pits his self-interest against his ethical duty to be fair and honest with home owners.

The fact that the net result of such a bonus is that it results in some less than ethical dealings that boost the company's bottom line is a feature, not a bug. Best of all, the 1% have plausible deniability if someone does get caught. After all, they didn't tell him to behave in an unethical manner.

So that's why the 1% needs to change first.

If you're open to some skepticism about liberty capitalism, then a more subtle observation I'd make is that there sure seem to be a ton of situations in our society where doing the wrong thing brings you a reward, but doing the right thing usually loses you money. Seems worth re-examining how we do things to see if maybe we can't make it just a little easier for people to do the right thing.

A deposition of an honest insurance adjuster---I swear it!



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