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2020 Politics

luxintenebris jokingly says...

- healthcare for all citizens
- inflated drug costs
- American infrastructure
- living wage
- etc, etc, etc....nuthin' is RED TERRITORY!!!

Shirley you can give one example of a Democratic idea to counter any of these problems, but ONE from the GOP side? if'n y'all can find ONE reasonable action, to excuse their non-action, then the next easiest search would be for Bigfoot. (leave the insect repellant, West Nile and Lyme are myths)

c'mon lady! 4/6 of yer complaints have 0 to do w/Democrats. 3/6 are easily researchable and easy to understand. sister, you need to get rid of the yoga pants, put on some blue jeans and get to work!

as far as slanted media - please! it's up to an individual to screen cull, analyze any data they regard. it's like a body walking across a pasture w/o paying heed to bossy's expended feed - don't get to complain about yer boots when it was your decision.

'tho points for watching CNN MSNBC and other outlets (obviously you viewed these to inform the damning opinion? yes?) as it is good to have inputs from many sources. can't say personally spend much time on those sites, or any of the hard-wired right-wing cracker factories (churning out brittle and salty fodder that the infantile find tasty).

ain't no mushroom, princess.

bobknight33 said:

-Border crisis
-High unemployment
-Gas prices up
-Inflation
-Churches and schools still closed
-Tax increases coming

And what are Democrats doing about it? Nothing.

They’re busy obsessing over President Trump.

2020 Politics

bobknight33 says...

1/2 truths
Slanted stories.
Slanted stories just for the sake if to dump on trump.
CNN MSNBC and other outlets pushed 90%+ negative spin against Trump.

Biden in office negative stores , to few to count


Compare Time magazine of Trump covers VS Biden covers

FAKE NEWS

moonsammy said:

Bob, can you define what you think "fake" means? I could see "attempted comedy" or "unfunny" but... wtf would "fake comedy" be?

Also, what fake news? They literally quoted Trump several times, showed an image of the Ukraine call transcript... what specific thing that was said or shown is "fake"?

newtboy (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

U uter such leftist lies.


You have Zero ides what is going on, other that what MSNBC/CNN fake news machine is cracking out.

newtboy said:

You should have heard by now, the fake bamboo audit has now completely destroyed Maricopa county's election system because, since the pro Trump "cyber ninjas" (who's name itself indicates they intended to surreptitiously set traps and viruses in the machines and who had no supervision) tampered with vote machines, tabulators, and databases (and have asked for every piece of government held data in the county from addresses and social security numbers to expunged criminal records), so now every single machine in the county they touched must be discarded by court order.

It's impossible to know how many tens to hundreds of millions they wasted, finding nothing, and now they intend to travel the country doing it in every state. They seem intent on destroying our election apparatus, just like Trump's presidency was intent on destroying our government. It wasn't about finding problems and fixing them, it was about destroying the system and wasting billions of tax dollars, then lowering taxes to destroy America with massive debt over stupidity.

Because they played so fast and loose, with no chain of custody, no supervision, and no honesty, their "audit" is completely invalid on it's face. They destroyed the data, destroyed the machines (400 $5000 tabulators and around 10-20 vote machines per tabulator at another $5000+ each at a bare minimum in this one county)....so in the $20- >$40 million range for fraud #1, and they plan on at least 50 more. Good job handing Dominion tens of millions to replace them.....now pay up.

Every single Republican should have to pay for every cent they wasted, with non republicans exempt from the new election fraud fraud recovery tax. Children of Republicans too. I'm writing my congressman.

Pike County Sheriffs Beat And Mace Man In Restraint Chair

bobknight33 says...

This was on CNN, MSNBC ABC CBS NBC national news?
This Attempted Murder.????????????
How do you know ?

Yea the cop went to far.

newtboy said:

For you, @bobknight33
Another criminal gang of murderous thugs getting paid to assault the public.
No good apples anywhere to be seen.

Not
A
Single
One
Tried
To
Stop
This
Attempted
Murder.

And what do you know, main stream media covered it, even though the victim is white!

They covered this one too, with another white victim.... violent abusive cop murders graduate student who was protecting the abusive cop's terrified wife....https://youtu.be/6CeJeUfSFmk

Alaskagate IS REAL! Or is it?

bobknight33 says...

Trusted sources???
CNN
MSNBC
ABC,
CBS,
NBC,
FOX,
None are trusted sources.

Those who trust the above are brain dead.

That is Americas biggest problem, not Trump.

MEGA landslide 2020

newtboy said:

Damn right, don't forget to vote, but don't forget to engage your brain first.

*quality *promote

@bobknight33, I'm looking at you, bud. If he had said Pelosi was involved, you would be insisting it's true after his reveal, the Russians are going to float Alaska over to Russia, and calling anyone who tried to tell you states don't float an ignorant libtard too dumb to see that Democrats are sending entire states overseas.

Democrats know Biden will lose

bobknight33 says...

Your right. CNN MSNBC and teh rest fake news who said Hillary will win by a land slide are also saying Biden win by a country mile.


CNN and Fake news will no show how bad his mind is slipping and you say OAN can't be trusted.

Don't shoot the messenger shoot the Biden message

What is QAnon? If You Don’t Know, Now You Know

bobknight33 says...

Is CNN / MSNBC any less of a cult than Qaononn?

Both extreme.

Fake news is 24/7/365 Anti Trump, Anti America.
The other sounds pro American, Freedom with a tinge of baby eating.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

Think about somthing and doing are 2 different things.

CNN MSNBC shit their pants over a nothing burger.

BOSS TRUMP!

newtboy said:

It's not CNN, it's directly from Trump himself. Trump's tweets are fake news?! Wow, that's progress.

He's going to try to shit on the constitution, again. He has zero respect for it, guaranteed he's never once read it through. He's not tossing it out completely....yet.

Schools are safe?! Students and teachers in them aren't. It's insanity to claim they even might be.
Kids aren't immune, kids under 10 still get sick from covid they just rarely die but many are permanently disabled, and they bring it home to mom, dad, older sister, grandma, etc. Kids over 10 are the same as the rest of us Covid wise. Classrooms are Petri dishes, it would be hard to design a place more likely to spread diseases, dozens of kids in close proximity with no ability to social distance, no hygiene, eating together hip to hip, basically being irresponsible children with little supervision. Note, schools aren't safe enough for Trump to send his child back.

Trump's team can't tell the difference between peaceful protests and rioters, that's why time and time again they're filmed attacking peaceful protests, beating and macing seated calm protesters, using tear gass on peaceful protests including shooting canisters at people's faces from point blank range, trapping crowds in enclosed areas with one exit, blocking that exit and attacking en mass, intentionally targeting media using weapons, rubber bullets, pepper spray and capsaicin bullets, driving vehicles into crowds with intent to harm peaceful protesters, beating and mace bukakke-ing peaceful and calm veterans who just stand and take it without even defending themselves, cracking elderly skulls open not rendering aid and claiming the victim was faking, etc. Trump has tried to label BLM a terrorist organization, and directed his shock troops to treat them as such. Repeatedly they are on camera trying to spark violence by attacking peaceful protesters, and have been filmed supervising white people vandalizing in the name of BLM, even directing the vandalism.

Yes, fake news like OAN, Glen Beck, and Fox can't tell the difference and hope you can't either, that's why they fake photos, adding in armed antifa, using old out of state burning riot photos to pretend Portland is on fire, never mentioning that those caught starting fires, shooting cops, driving into crowds, shooting into crowds, etc have been far right wing boogaloo boys, not protesters. Never mentioning the protests are limited to about a 4 block area of Portland, not the entire city. They pretend that when peaceful crowds are shot at and gassed and a few toss back empty water bottles as they retreat, the crowds instigated it and forced "police" (not really police) to use excessive force (ignoring the fact that the agents shot first) by being violent....but oddly have no video of violent protesters to corroborate their unbelievable stories in dozens of cases. In the list of violent acts that drove the unwanted deployment of federal thugs, 9/10 were graffiti. Fake news can't seem to tell graffiti from firebombing.

Where were they when crowds of armed thugs were taking over state capitals and calling for the mob execution of governors and officials over quarantining a few weeks back? What was different there? Hmmmm...

Free Speech Considered Support for Nazism

bcglorf says...

I did read that one, admittedly with reluctance because I've found the independent can be a lot more opinion than fact(ala msnbc/fox). The article mostly states Mr. Osborne accuses the gallery of many things, by far the worst is association with the website "Amerika" which I'm not familiar with, but unless it is so vile that even referencing it when discussing ideologies is 'bad' it didn't seem enough to make the gallery into witches, errr nazis.

For the Canadian incident, the full debate she showed a clip from is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kasiov0ytEc

I'm afraid it's an hour long, but I don't know which 'clip' she would have been playing, although it was debate between Mattes and Peterson.

Lindsay Shepherd was the TA involved, this is the full audio recording of the meeting she was pulled into with 3 full staff and faculty to 'discuss' how her action of playing the video was wrong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nd32_uIcnI

newtboy said:

Try the first one....lazybones. ;-) It lays out both the stated intent and the actions that belie that statement.

It seems far easier to read the links than try to research it yourself, so I don't understand why you decided to ignore the research offered in favor of your own unproductive but far more labor intensive research. Seems a bit like putting fingers in your ears and saying you hear no evidence during a discussion.

JiggaJonson (Member Profile)

JiggaJonson says...

Dude, tell me you are not this dumb. here's the video and a searchable transcript https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4864096/dr-deborah-birx-modeling

>>>>>>>>>And what about it exactly? she says

"There is no model right now -- no reality on the ground where we can see that 60% to 70% of Americans are going to get infected in the next eight to 12 weeks. I want to be clear about that."

???Oh???
so you have no models that say that ANDDDDD you have no data on the ground that indicates that that is happening? Okayyyy???? WHAT?

We also have no data that there is a giant sea monster attack in Florida AND we have no studies that say that... like what??????? I said "go find ONE example of someone credible saying that shit."


This is not what i asked for, this is someone from the Trump administration SAYING that someone in the media is saying that + a bunch of word salad nonsense.


Come on man, ALLL the media reports of doom and gloom claiming millions will die in the usa! (supposedly)

Use your GO-TO sources for news that you claim are liars. CNN NBC ABC MSNBC You know! It should be easy to find a clip from them from this time period claiming this. After all, you got your information straight from the trump administration, so it's VERY reliable.

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Let's be real here. You got this idea from the Trump admin, and the people at that podium. I appreciate you ferreting out the origin of this information, really. I dig that you went and found something close to someone saying that t5here will be X many million deaths, but at some point, you have to admit that YOU GOT YOUR INFORMATION FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT BEING HONEST.

newtboy (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

The report cited by the HuffPost is from a New York Times story that said: “Trump himself has a small personal financial interest in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine.”

Trump’s personal financial interest, however, does not include a stake in Sanofi–and the New York Times did not claim it did. Instead, Trump’s financial disclosures show that his three family trusts each had investments in a $10.3 billion Dodge & Cox mutual fund that owns shares in Sanofi, the world’s fifth-largest drugmaker by prescription sales. As of its latest disclosures, those holdings amount to just 3.3 percent of the fund’s holdings.

Trump’s most recent financial disclosure forms lists holdings in the Dodge & Cox International Fund valued between $1,001 and $15,000. That means Trump holds a maximum stake in the mutual funds of $45,000, giving him an indirect interest in Sanofi of $1,485 at the most.

His “financial interest” in Sanofi, which has a market capitalization of nearly $58 billion, could be as low as $99.10.






Fuck your right! Trump can make $ pushing the drug $100 bucks --WOW

Why do you believe EVERY THING the media pushes about Trump? 97% of all media is ANTI TRUMP . Your not dumb and must realize this cant be true.


Also the drug is an alternative that is being investigated. All the "BAD" effects are the same for its original intended use but still prescribed?

Orange man GOOD. MSNBC etc BAD.

newtboy said:

More head up your ass denial from the right. Do your research...you'll find that, unlike every other president ever, Trump continues to hide his assets and refuse to divest in non-American companies. His stock holdings in Sanofi, maker of the name brand, have been uncovered, but who knows how much of his holdings are still secret? No one since his financial ties are locked door secrets. What is clear is that multiple major donors have massive holdings in sanofi and other generic manufacturers, some ARE drug manufacturers, so he has good reason to sell it even if he didn't have the personal stake that he has....he gets millions in donations he can pilfer.

FYI, a near 100% of doctors disagree, there are zero studies and only some anecdotal evidence to support Trump's self serving snake oil claims, and tons of proof that it's dangerous, has side effects that can be permanently disabling or deadly and may be worse and more likely than average Covid19 symptoms, and has not proven to be effective against Covid19. Do your research. Drugs of last resort should not be used as preventative or unsupervised medicine, or be suggested by people who know nothing but stand to benefit financially.

It's bad because it causes;
Blistering, peeling, loosening of the skin
blurred vision or other vision changes
chest discomfort, pain, or tightness
cough or hoarseness
dark urine
decreased urination
defective color vision
diarrhea
difficulty breathing
difficulty seeing at night
dizziness or fainting
fast, pounding, uneven heartbeat
feeling that others are watching you or controlling your behavior
feeling that others can hear your thoughts
feeling, seeing, or hearing things that are not there
fever with or without chills
general feeling of tiredness or weakness
headache
inability to move the eyes
increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
joint or muscle pain
large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, and sex organs
loss of hearing
lower back or side pain
noisy breathing
painful or difficult urination
red irritated eyes
red skin lesions, often with a purple center
severe mood or mental changes
sore throat sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth
sticking out of the tongue
stomach pain
swelling of the feet or lower legs
swollen or painful glands
trouble with breathing, speaking, or swallowing
uncontrolled twisting movements of the neck, trunk, arms, or legs
unusual behavior
unusual bleeding or bruising
unusual facial expressions
unusual tiredness or weakness
yellow eyes or skin
Heart failure
Death
All with no evidence it helps with Covid19

How Fox News has shifted its coronavirus rhetoric

newtboy says...

Fox news viewers are less informed than those who watch nothing. That's not true of CNN, MSNBC, or any non right wing propaganda network...it might be true of OAN.

bobknight33 said:

Even with all this crap still better than CNN,MSNBC and all oter fake news machines.

How Fox News has shifted its coronavirus rhetoric

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

bobknight33 says...

If you think I get my only news from FOX, Farrell etc you are sadly mistaken.

I watch FOX, CNN, MSNBC CBS,ABC All shade facts. All told each maybe 5 -10 min each through the day.

FOX just happens to be the least bias.

JiggaJonson said:

Oh hey, i got some resources for you on the outbreak

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jerry-falwell-jr-suggests-to-fox-and-friends-that-north-korea-created-the-coronavirus



https://www.mediamatters.org/trish-regan/trish-regan-says-democrats-are-using-coronavirus-another-attempt-impeach-president

Those sneaky democrats
!!!!!!! always up to something


Here, you told me this Nunes guy was very trustworthy, he has some advice for what you should do

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1239204553460838400?s=20
“If you’re healthy, you and your family, it’s a great time to go out and go to a local restaurant, likely you can get in easy. Let’s not hurt the working people in this country...go to your local pub”

I think you should do it.

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