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The Problem is that Communism Lost (Blog Entry by dag)

dag says...

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I think that's a key point. When the US has eschewed "socialist" welfare state programs as it has generally done over the last 30 years - in favour of free enterprise and privatisation - the result has been to concentrate wealth at the top of the spectrum with the country club set. I don't see any free enterprise solution to this.

Victorian England had a lot of concentrated wealth at the top, and a huge pool of poor workers and very little regulation. That led to work houses and rampant pollution. It also (thankfully) led to a strong labour uprising that redistributed that wealth with a progressive tax system, creating a large middle-class. Bad for the rich? Absolutely. Vastly better for the whole country? Definitely, yes.

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^blankfist:
@NetRunner, you offered the following as your utopian idea for new government:
1. regulated market.
2. welfare state
That's exactly what we have now. Exactly. Government regulates every single industry. Every one. We have a massive welfare state. Our economy is also going to shit and entrepreneurs cannot stay afloat with all the regulations in order to create more jobs. It's a recipe for failure.
Why not give free market Capitalism a chance? Your regulated markets and welfare state spending simply is not sustainable.

I'm starting to get curious, do you ever read my comments all the way to the end?
Maybe I need to be less whimsical. My point was that today's flawed reality is a utopia compared to your utopian proposals.
As for "why not give free market capitalism a chance", I may as well say "why not give Marxist Communism a chance"? I mean, obviously real communism has never been tried -- just ask the modern communists.
There's been no radical boost to growth during America's 30-year march to the right, and shrinking the welfare state and dismantling unions hasn't boosted the median income, so why would we ever keep marching on until we get to the ultimate extreme?
The modern progressive movement isn't on a march towards communism, it's trying to optimize society through an iterative scientific process. We look at things that have failed, or things that have worked elsewhere, and try to learn from them, and build a better mousetrap.
I don't really know what the end-state of modern liberalism looks like. I think it will always be looking to change and evolve over time as new problems and new solutions present themselves.

The Problem is that Communism Lost (Blog Entry by dag)

NetRunner says...

>> ^blankfist:

@NetRunner, you offered the following as your utopian idea for new government:
1. regulated market.
2. welfare state
That's exactly what we have now. Exactly. Government regulates every single industry. Every one. We have a massive welfare state. Our economy is also going to shit and entrepreneurs cannot stay afloat with all the regulations in order to create more jobs. It's a recipe for failure.
Why not give free market Capitalism a chance? Your regulated markets and welfare state spending simply is not sustainable.


I'm starting to get curious, do you ever read my comments all the way to the end?

Maybe I need to be less whimsical. My point was that today's flawed reality is a utopia compared to your utopian proposals.

As for "why not give free market capitalism a chance", I may as well say "why not give Marxist Communism a chance"? I mean, obviously real communism has never been tried -- just ask the modern communists.

There's been no radical boost to growth during America's 30-year march to the right, and shrinking the welfare state and dismantling unions hasn't boosted the median income, so why would we ever keep marching on until we get to the ultimate extreme?

The modern progressive movement isn't on a march towards communism, it's trying to optimize society through an iterative scientific process. We look at things that have failed, or things that have worked elsewhere, and try to learn from them, and build a better mousetrap.

I don't really know what the end-state of modern liberalism looks like. I think it will always be looking to change and evolve over time as new problems and new solutions present themselves.

Mouse trap never works!

wormwood says...

"The unreliability of the machine, like the randomness of the die, is a part of the game. The pleasure comes not from watching the machine work, but from watching your friends fail."
- Mao Soo, "The Delicate Zen of Mousetrap"

Giant Mousetrap Board Game

Version 4.0 Issues (Sift Talk Post)

lucky760 says...

>> ^fford:
Searching is screwed up. I wanted to find all the videos sifted with 10-14 votes and sort them by age, but the search not only messes up the sort order, there's lots of videos with more than 14 votes listed. It also seems unlikely that there are exactly 1000 of them, or is that a limitation of the search?

It's not a bug per se. The reason is that our search engine is updated for archived posts only once a day and it just so happens that the few odd posts you saw got more votes since the last time the search index was updated.


>> ^Stingray:
I have no recommended sifts to view.

Neither do I at the moment, but you probably will tomorrow. The listing is updated once a day based on your voting history, so the more voting you do and the more voting everyone else does, the more recommendations you'll have.


>> ^blankfist:
Siftie gives wrong acknowledgment for quality invocations in videos.
Seen here:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Giant-Mousetrap-Board-Game#comment-8185
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Oops. Fixed.

Version 4.0 Issues (Sift Talk Post)

Shepppard (Member Profile)

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Morganth says...

>> ^heathen:
I prefer the catch and release traps


Well I know that doesn't work for squirrels either. We trapped some in our attic and drove them to a park a few miles away so they wouldn't come back to us, but apparently squirrels are territorial enough to kill the new guys we released.

demon_ix (Member Profile)

Mousetrap Fail

demon_ix (Member Profile)

Zonbie says...

Congrats on the bronze It look good! hehe, I upvoted your Mousetrap Fail - very cute, and then noticed you got a bronze! Have fun and keep sifting sir!

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