That mellowed me right out.
>> ^KnivesOut:
This made me more queasy than the Cut&Slide montage.
If you're feeling queasy too, watch this:

I know of a few good indie bands out here, but most of them are a bit more to the south (LA and stuff). I'll ask some friends to see what they recommend, I suppose. We'll see how things turn out, lol. I'm always on the lookout for good music though, so I'm sure I'll find something.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
WELL MAYBE YOU'RE JUST A MEAN MUSIC NAZI!!! hahaha jk. Well, I don't know what to tell you. Hopefully you'll find something you like out there. If not, you might have to do as the Romans. Step one is finding a venue. Which might be a painstaking process, especially if you're picky about music.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
It's not that I don't try out other people's recommendations, it's just that I end up not liking them more often than not, so it's just that I end up being disappointed most of the time.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
We all have our guilty pleasures. As much as I swore I'd never be "that guy", I find myself at the Wavehouse every Sunday listening to electro-house. I used to be hardcore about the music I thought was good, and the stuff I thought was crappy/trendy/trivial, of which much of the music I like now fits. Over the years though, I've found it's better to just go with the music, than to fight it. Take a chance on somebody else's taste in music. Try to view it as they view it. Hell, if you hadn't done that in the first place, you would've never developed the unique taste you have for music today.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Thanks, now I'm motivated to get Pinback back on my computer again (lost it all on my old comp). YOU FEED MY BAD HABITS.

I'll ask a few friends here if they know of anything good, but I don't trust most people's musical tastes since I generally look for something beyond just "catchy" and/or "can play in tune" when I'm looking for music.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
I liked that a lot. It hand Pinback's sound but in a different way.

Here's my favorite Pinback song...it's mellow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycdlGRGIwSo
(the video is dumb it's a demo for some mirror text software).

I don't know of anything bay area other than hip hop. I'm sure there is plenty, you just gotta find out where to go.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
The song is written by Japanese artist Aida Shigekazu of the bands FOE and El-Malo. He also does solo work and writes music for Kimura Kaela, a rather famous pop/rock artist. Rob Crow on guest vox? Hells yes. Really tight song, you'll like it I'm sure. I'd sift it if there were a video for it, but alas, such is life.

I'm actually in Berkeley for the next several months, and I'd like to find some good local bands other than the scant few I know of in the bay area, any leads?

WELL MAYBE YOU'RE JUST A MEAN MUSIC NAZI!!! hahaha jk. Well, I don't know what to tell you. Hopefully you'll find something you like out there. If not, you might have to do as the Romans. Step one is finding a venue. Which might be a painstaking process, especially if you're picky about music.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
It's not that I don't try out other people's recommendations, it's just that I end up not liking them more often than not, so it's just that I end up being disappointed most of the time.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
We all have our guilty pleasures. As much as I swore I'd never be "that guy", I find myself at the Wavehouse every Sunday listening to electro-house. I used to be hardcore about the music I thought was good, and the stuff I thought was crappy/trendy/trivial, of which much of the music I like now fits. Over the years though, I've found it's better to just go with the music, than to fight it. Take a chance on somebody else's taste in music. Try to view it as they view it. Hell, if you hadn't done that in the first place, you would've never developed the unique taste you have for music today.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Thanks, now I'm motivated to get Pinback back on my computer again (lost it all on my old comp). YOU FEED MY BAD HABITS.

I'll ask a few friends here if they know of anything good, but I don't trust most people's musical tastes since I generally look for something beyond just "catchy" and/or "can play in tune" when I'm looking for music.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
I liked that a lot. It hand Pinback's sound but in a different way.

Here's my favorite Pinback song...it's mellow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycdlGRGIwSo
(the video is dumb it's a demo for some mirror text software).

I don't know of anything bay area other than hip hop. I'm sure there is plenty, you just gotta find out where to go.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
The song is written by Japanese artist Aida Shigekazu of the bands FOE and El-Malo. He also does solo work and writes music for Kimura Kaela, a rather famous pop/rock artist. Rob Crow on guest vox? Hells yes. Really tight song, you'll like it I'm sure. I'd sift it if there were a video for it, but alas, such is life.

I'm actually in Berkeley for the next several months, and I'd like to find some good local bands other than the scant few I know of in the bay area, any leads?

It's not that I don't try out other people's recommendations, it's just that I end up not liking them more often than not, so it's just that I end up being disappointed most of the time.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
We all have our guilty pleasures. As much as I swore I'd never be "that guy", I find myself at the Wavehouse every Sunday listening to electro-house. I used to be hardcore about the music I thought was good, and the stuff I thought was crappy/trendy/trivial, of which much of the music I like now fits. Over the years though, I've found it's better to just go with the music, than to fight it. Take a chance on somebody else's taste in music. Try to view it as they view it. Hell, if you hadn't done that in the first place, you would've never developed the unique taste you have for music today.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Thanks, now I'm motivated to get Pinback back on my computer again (lost it all on my old comp). YOU FEED MY BAD HABITS.

I'll ask a few friends here if they know of anything good, but I don't trust most people's musical tastes since I generally look for something beyond just "catchy" and/or "can play in tune" when I'm looking for music.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
I liked that a lot. It hand Pinback's sound but in a different way.

Here's my favorite Pinback song...it's mellow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycdlGRGIwSo
(the video is dumb it's a demo for some mirror text software).

I don't know of anything bay area other than hip hop. I'm sure there is plenty, you just gotta find out where to go.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
The song is written by Japanese artist Aida Shigekazu of the bands FOE and El-Malo. He also does solo work and writes music for Kimura Kaela, a rather famous pop/rock artist. Rob Crow on guest vox? Hells yes. Really tight song, you'll like it I'm sure. I'd sift it if there were a video for it, but alas, such is life.

I'm actually in Berkeley for the next several months, and I'd like to find some good local bands other than the scant few I know of in the bay area, any leads?

We all have our guilty pleasures. As much as I swore I'd never be "that guy", I find myself at the Wavehouse every Sunday listening to electro-house. I used to be hardcore about the music I thought was good, and the stuff I thought was crappy/trendy/trivial, of which much of the music I like now fits. Over the years though, I've found it's better to just go with the music, than to fight it. Take a chance on somebody else's taste in music. Try to view it as they view it. Hell, if you hadn't done that in the first place, you would've never developed the unique taste you have for music today.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
Thanks, now I'm motivated to get Pinback back on my computer again (lost it all on my old comp). YOU FEED MY BAD HABITS.

I'll ask a few friends here if they know of anything good, but I don't trust most people's musical tastes since I generally look for something beyond just "catchy" and/or "can play in tune" when I'm looking for music.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
I liked that a lot. It hand Pinback's sound but in a different way.

Here's my favorite Pinback song...it's mellow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycdlGRGIwSo
(the video is dumb it's a demo for some mirror text software).

I don't know of anything bay area other than hip hop. I'm sure there is plenty, you just gotta find out where to go.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
The song is written by Japanese artist Aida Shigekazu of the bands FOE and El-Malo. He also does solo work and writes music for Kimura Kaela, a rather famous pop/rock artist. Rob Crow on guest vox? Hells yes. Really tight song, you'll like it I'm sure. I'd sift it if there were a video for it, but alas, such is life.

I'm actually in Berkeley for the next several months, and I'd like to find some good local bands other than the scant few I know of in the bay area, any leads?

Thanks, now I'm motivated to get Pinback back on my computer again (lost it all on my old comp). YOU FEED MY BAD HABITS.

I'll ask a few friends here if they know of anything good, but I don't trust most people's musical tastes since I generally look for something beyond just "catchy" and/or "can play in tune" when I'm looking for music.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
I liked that a lot. It hand Pinback's sound but in a different way.

Here's my favorite Pinback song...it's mellow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycdlGRGIwSo
(the video is dumb it's a demo for some mirror text software).

I don't know of anything bay area other than hip hop. I'm sure there is plenty, you just gotta find out where to go.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
The song is written by Japanese artist Aida Shigekazu of the bands FOE and El-Malo. He also does solo work and writes music for Kimura Kaela, a rather famous pop/rock artist. Rob Crow on guest vox? Hells yes. Really tight song, you'll like it I'm sure. I'd sift it if there were a video for it, but alas, such is life.

I'm actually in Berkeley for the next several months, and I'd like to find some good local bands other than the scant few I know of in the bay area, any leads?

I liked that a lot. It hand Pinback's sound but in a different way.

Here's my favorite Pinback song...it's mellow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycdlGRGIwSo
(the video is dumb it's a demo for some mirror text software).

I don't know of anything bay area other than hip hop. I'm sure there is plenty, you just gotta find out where to go.

In reply to this comment by JAPR:
The song is written by Japanese artist Aida Shigekazu of the bands FOE and El-Malo. He also does solo work and writes music for Kimura Kaela, a rather famous pop/rock artist. Rob Crow on guest vox? Hells yes. Really tight song, you'll like it I'm sure. I'd sift it if there were a video for it, but alas, such is life.

I'm actually in Berkeley for the next several months, and I'd like to find some good local bands other than the scant few I know of in the bay area, any leads?

As I see more of him, after his mellowing (i.e. now that he's no longer beating up fans in a drunken stupor), I like him more and more.

I like that he's impassioned, and while his peeves are not always my peeves, they're at least issues I can relate to. Most importantly, and something you'd never guess from his "musical" career...he's quite articulate, and has a definite way with words, when he wants to.

wow..
people bashing henry rollins...
you all make enoch sad.
thats it..gather round kids.
here is henry with his solo band.
http://www.videosift.com/search?q=henry+rollins+liar
see? see? and this was when he "mellowed" some!
now dont get me wrong,i like techno..well..progressive/house/trance mainly,
but nothing can replace nor compare to a musicians heart and soul playing what they love most.
im a record-record player from back in that day,and i would never have the balls to compare what i did to what a musician does.
musician>dj everytime,always..thats non negotiable.

Pulled over to the river to take a rest
Pulled out a pair of pliers and pulled the bullet out of my chest
Fear and loathing across the country listening to my 8 track
I Reached behind the seat and grabbed a Kool from the pack
Long distance from my girl and I'm talking on the cellular
She said that she was sorry and I said yeah the hell you were
Check my rear view mirror check the gold tooth display
Check out the odometer and I was on my way
Cause I'm a high plains drifter the best that you can get
A strapped shoplifter a pirate on cassette
Bust a Travis Bickle when I feel that I'm getting pushed
Don't step to me or you're gonna get mushed
I'm Doing 120 plowing over mail boxes
Radar detector to tell me where the cops is
Spend another night at the Motel 6
It's five dollars extra get the porno flicks
Concoct a black and tan in my brandy snifter
I'm a kleptomaniac K-Mart shoplifter
Cash flow getting low so I had to pull a job
I found a nice place to visit but a better place to rob
I left my car outside and the engine still revvin'
Time to get busy at 7-Eleven
Then I went inside to make my withdrawal
I saw what he had had but I had to take it all


Knucklehead deli tried to gyp me on the price
So I clocked him off the turban with the bag of ice
Cause I'm mellow like Jell-O cool like lemonade
I made my getaway and I thought that I had it made
I feel like Steve McQueen a former movie star
Look in my rearview mirror seen a police car
Ballantine quarts with the puzzle on the cap
I couldn't help but notice I was caught in a speed trap
Dirty Mary Crazy Larry on the run from Dirty Harry
Stash the cash in the dash but my gun I did carry
I'm seeing blue and red flashing deep in the night
I got my alibi straight and I pulled over to the right
Cop knocked on my window and said Boy where's the fire
you've got a mailbox on your bumper and a bald front tire
Outta the car longhair your goose is cooked
Read me my rights fingerprinted and booked
Makin' like a D.T. driving a Gran Fury
Wherever I hang my hat's my home and my past is kind of blurry
Every dog will have its day and mine will be in front of a jury
I'm the High Plains Drifter and I'm never in a hurry
Read me my rights as if I didn't know this
Threw me in the tank with the drunk called Otis
With his five o' clock shadow he smelled of 3-day old beer
My man turned to me and said why are you here?
I said I'm charming and dashing I'm rental car bashing
Phony paper passing at Nix Check Cashing
I went before the judge he sent me to the Brooklyn House of D.
He said you behave son or we'll throw away the key
Harry Houdini'd out the cuffs I kicked the screw in the knee
Took the bailiff's wallet and went straight to O.T.B.
I had a good feeling easy come easy go
I bet on one horse to win and another to show
And sure enough that knak came in
Brought my ticket to the window and collected my win
Broke into my new car with a wire coat hanger
Hot wired hot wheeled and Suzy is a headbanger

Well excuse me, take a few minutes, to mellow out
Big Daddy Kane is on the mic and I'ma tell about
a minimum length, of rhymes of strength
and power, so listen to the man of the hour
Flow and go to a slow tempo and you know
sing hoe, swing low, then yo the show
will go on, as I perform
Transformin on stage like a Decepticon
But I'm not animated like a cartoon
I'm for real, shootin lyrics like a harpoon
Across the crowd, the listeners, the spectators
So let's groove with the smooth operator

The B-I-G, D-A-double-D-Y-K-A-N-E
I'm good and plenty, servin many and any
competition, wishin for an expedition
I'm straight up dissin and dismissin, listen
Rappers act so wild, and love to profile
Frontin hard but ain't got no style
I give nightmares to those who compete
Freddy Kreuger, walkin on Kane Street
Confuse and lose abuse and bruise the crews
who choose to use my name wrong, they pay dues
Destruction from the exterminator
But in a calm manner, cause I'm a smooth operator

Now girls step up to this
One simple kiss, and it's over Miss
Sold to nice dreamers, high as the price seem
girlfriend, you been scooped like ice cream
So just swing or fling a gathering try to cling
Cause It's a Big Daddy Thing
And I'm lovin em right word is bond
So just play Marvin Gaye and Let's Get It On
I make it real good like Dr. Feelgood
To make sure that my point is understood
That when it comes to this there's none greater
Sincerely yours... the smooth operator

Now ain't that the pot callin the kettle black
Sayin I'm a new jack, you need to be smacked
The smooth way I say em and the way I display em
to make them sound different in a way that's gifted
and hey I'm, makin sure every lyric is done fine
And I make one line, bright as the sunshine
Attack you like Robatussin on a cough
If you know like I know -- step off!
Competition, I'ma get rid of
You can't get a bit of, so just consider
a break or rest vacation hibernation
And make way for my smooth operation
I'm a smooth operator

Nice mellow version you've got there. Going to slepp now...

When I first joined the military eleven years ago, things were still fairly old school (there were a couple years left to go before the Canadian Forces made a conscious turn towards a "kinder, gentler" M.O.) In my unit, at least, there was a lot of sledgehammer leadership -- lots of yelling and verbal disrespect from the Sergeants / Master Corporals / senior Corporals etc towards those of us lower on the food chain. That was the way things were done; to get the troops doing something, yell, and if they're not doing it fast enough or properly, yell louder and start swearing and call people "numbnuts" and so on. I wouldn't say any of it was actually abusive (you'd have to go back before my time for that), but the model basically was "to get troops to get the job done, apply unpleasantness".

Anyway, when I was in positions of leadership for the first several years I was loud and snarky (just like everybody else) and I never had been like that before. I wasn't power-tripping either -- I didn't enjoy it, although after awhile I did get good at it. But after those first years I realized that I didn't like doing it that way, which was also about the time I slowly cottoned on to the fact that there were other, less adversarial ways of motivating people. Also around then we had a large turnover of senior NCO's (Sergeants etc.) and the ones who replaced them were less old school and less irascible, so the entire tone of the unit mellowed noticeably in the space of less than a year.

So yes, I was more assoholic for those first few years, but that's past. I'll still deliver a blast if I have to sort out some troopie, but it's rare that it gets to that point -- they usually just listen pretty well.

EDIT: I now realize I didn't answer your question -- let me think about that one.

Nooooo, that guy was EVIL... poor kitty stuffed in a bong.

This guy hasn´t met Croswwords and his knife yet, so that is why he is so mellow with the cute little bandit...

>> ^StukaFox:
Geeze, the Seattle PD are usually a pretty mellow lot. I can't understand why they went so overboard in this case. There's a lot of seriously good people on the force here and I hope those people aren't judged by the actions of these two.


Yeah, as long as the "good ones" deliver a top pot special to this evil idiot.

This is horrible.