Mountain biking.. clearly. By a mile...

Sorry, but put a world class mountain biker on a road bike and he'd do ok. Put a road biker on this trail and he literally dies.

Also, lycra... no-one should wear it

False

Because while you may look silly wearing lycra and riding a bike; you would look absolutely RIDICULOUS wearing lycra and driving a car. Plus then you'd have to give up that sweet new rear view mirror you bought that mounts to your helmet.

That's why everyone rides bikes right? Lycra?

You mean typical ROAD biker.

My experience has been that mountain bikers (who generally view being on the road as a necessary evil to get to a trail) are careful and courteous.

The lycra brigade, OTOH, all think they're in the fucking tour de france and feel the need to practice riding in a peloton. What especially annoys me is when there is a cycle lane and these idiots ride on the outside marker so that half their body is in traffic.

Yes but the riders typically didn't wear brightly coloured Lycra shorts and plastic helmets on account of them not being invented for at least another 20-30 years or so

First up, did you miss the smiley at the end of my post? That would be the hint that I wasn't 100% serious.

As it happens, I know a few guys who play gridiron in NZ and they're tough as nails.

The only athletes I have no time for are road bikers. Drug-taking, lycra-wearing pussies, the lot of them*.

Regarding boxing, I fully agree with you. Personally, I think we should go back to bare knuckle boxing for exactly that reason, but I know it'd never sell. People are perfectly happy to have boxers brain damaged, but god forbid we see some blood. That would be barbaric.

Finally as far as ultra marathon guys go, I have huge respect for them, but you're confusing fitness with toughness. But they don't have to be, any more than a rugby player needs to run at a constant pace for 3 hours.

*For the humour impaired, this is an example of hyperbole combined with an overly broad generalisation for a cheap laugh. I acknowledge that some road bikers don't take drugs, and that in general they're very fit. But they still wear lycra, so there.

Yep, I'd say I missed your tone completely. Usually, it seem that when someone gets started talking about "superheros" (as opposed to "comic books"), they're a fan of the genre, and hold that superheros are a good thing. I (and apparently you) tend to disagree with that stance. LOL>> ^Trancecoach:

uh, that's what I'm saying. I think you missed my tone, which is difficult to convey online.
If you took pretty much any straight-up "super hero" and put them in a real world context, not only would they appear to be a weird-o in a lycra jumpsuit, but they'd be considered fascist in their unilateral form of "crime-fighting" which places them in the position of policeman, judge, jury, and executioner...>> ^Stormsinger:
>> ^Trancecoach:
and this is different from a superhero..... how?>> ^Stormsinger:
Best case, he's a fucking loon. If he's not, he's far worse... Vigilantes are scum, bypassing all due process, proclaiming themselves judge, jury and executioner without anyone's consent.


The difference is pretty simple. Superheros exist only in comic books dealing with fictional people...this guy is in the real world dealing with real people.
I accept a lot of premises and actions in fiction that I would never accept in real life.

uh, that's what I'm saying. I think you missed my tone, which is difficult to convey online.

If you took pretty much any straight-up "super hero" and put them in a real world context, not only would they appear to be a weird-o in a lycra jumpsuit, but they'd be considered fascist in their unilateral form of "crime-fighting" which places them in the position of policeman, judge, jury, and executioner...>> ^Stormsinger:

>> ^Trancecoach:
and this is different from a superhero..... how?>> ^Stormsinger:
Best case, he's a fucking loon. If he's not, he's far worse... Vigilantes are scum, bypassing all due process, proclaiming themselves judge, jury and executioner without anyone's consent.


The difference is pretty simple. Superheros exist only in comic books dealing with fictional people...this guy is in the real world dealing with real people.
I accept a lot of premises and actions in fiction that I would never accept in real life.

Roller blading in Lycra not enough? Need more opportunities to mince camply in public? Ahhh I think i have the answer for you...

There's far too much barely-contained-in-tight-lycra-pants package in this for my tastes, but that just adds to the Terrible, WTF factor, so upvote. Gotta love a good epic fail.

i was a schoolboy in the 80s and i thought it was strange that the worst possible insult was "you're gay" but... everyone liked to watch musclemen wearing pink lycra and grabbing each other's cocks.

still don't understand it. and yes, it's painfully fake. the worst bit is when they pretend to threaten each other by shouting into the camera, but they can't finish their sentences coherently or remember more than 3 insults. If your criteria for entertainment includes theatre, maybe you need actors in there somewhere.

i remember seeing the original vid that michie posted and thinking it was cool, but that he was kind of a dork in a shiny suit. This vid has made me realize that there is a badass under all that shiny lycra.

Im horrified anyone could say "Parliament could use a few more like him". He's an self serving ego-maniac. Where was he when Parliament was debating and voting on an issue directly relating to his constituency? He was in the big brother house dancing about in lycra outfits, and crawling around on the floor pretending to be a pussy cat. Also his ass-kissing to Saddam pre-war was very cringeworthy.

As much as I dislike him though, his hearing was brilliant to watch. He is a great orator and years of debate in the British Parliament will only sharpen those skills, and coming up against a Senator used to the US congress, there was only going to be one winner. Also I was and remain against the Iraq war, so find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with his points.