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I've seen lionesses hunting in pairs, using coordination. And as for trained dogs, I don't think we should confuse compliance and subjugation with intelligence. I feel that a cat could work as a guide animal - but it's just not into that kind of thing. Cats are loving but unhelpful assholes.

>> ^spoco2:

>> ^Drachen_Jager:
>> ^spoco2:
It's so hard to not anthropomorphise anumals, but man that lioness looks sad

Animals can be sad. That's not anthromorphic at all. Do you think animals don't have emotions, or their emotions aren't often expressed in similar ways to ours?

No, I'm not saying animals can't be sad. What I'm saying is that the expression... it looks sad, so we think of the lioness as sad. But that expression could have nothing to do with sadness, it could be interested, hungry, angry... we don't really know, it's applying human facial characteristics to an animal to assume that the look means sad.


I agree. Animal expressions can be very similar to ours, but mean completely different things. When we smile we pull back our lips and reveal our teeth. This is seen as a friendly expression by humans, but in almost all other animals it's a threat response, something you do when hurt or threatened yourself. How do you make a chimp smile? Hurt it, make it feel threatened. Puts a new edge on the old PG tips ads in the UK...

>> ^Drachen_Jager:

>> ^spoco2:
It's so hard to not anthropomorphise anumals, but man that lioness looks sad

Animals can be sad. That's not anthromorphic at all. Do you think animals don't have emotions, or their emotions aren't often expressed in similar ways to ours?


No, I'm not saying animals can't be sad. What I'm saying is that the expression... it looks sad, so we think of the lioness as sad. But that expression could have nothing to do with sadness, it could be interested, hungry, angry... we don't really know, it's applying human facial characteristics to an animal to assume that the look means sad.

>> ^Drachen_Jager:

>> ^spoco2:
It's so hard to not anthropomorphise anumals, but man that lioness looks sad

Animals can be sad. That's not anthromorphic at all. Do you think animals don't have emotions, or their emotions aren't often expressed in similar ways to ours?


Elephants, dude.

>> ^spoco2:

It's so hard to not anthropomorphise anumals, but man that lioness looks sad


Animals can be sad. That's not anthromorphic at all. Do you think animals don't have emotions, or their emotions aren't often expressed in similar ways to ours?

It's so hard to not anthropomorphise anumals, but man that lioness looks sad

>> ^Boise_Lib:

The cool part is that the lioness doesn't look like it wanted to attack--just curious.

Yes curious. "I wonder what this tastes like".

The cool part is that the lioness doesn't look like it wanted to attack--just curious.

That lioness runs the show!

I'm a woman. Who doesn't like aftershave on her men. And has dated her share of hippies back in the day....


>> ^sme4r:

"I wonder if he really needs all that help. Metrosexual is a mixed signal, yeah?"
I bet you see a barber every now and then, right?

Hey! Thanks!

The Lion thanks you, too!

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Hehehe I've seen cows do that on NGC specials where they show cows herding over to intimidate a lone lioness or hyena.

Disturbing yes. Snuff no! Because there is a valueable lesson attached.


The guy being gored by the elephant?

The guy being attacked and gored by the bull?

I don't think those people survived. Video sift has strict rules on what is and isn't snuff. This doesn't fit with those rules. You lot are obviously a lot more blood thirsty than I am, and see that as awesome, so be it. Good luck with that.

>> ^luxury_pie:

>> ^robbersdog49:
Nature can be awesome. Truly inspiring and incredible. The last sequence with the Buffalo calf being attacked by lions and then a crocodile and then being saved, that's awesome nature. Why the images of people being very badly injured/killed by animals? That's not nature. I don't believe that none of the victims died, this isn't a news story and I'm pretty sure that makes this snuff.
Nature can be horrendous as well as beautiful. I've watched lions in Kenya catch and kill a Zebra and it really was a horrible thing to see and hear. It took a long time to die. What you normally see on TV is the edited down version. Death is a part of nature, a part of life. The lioness had cubs and they would survive thanks to her killing ability. It wasn't just mindless violence.
I don't like to see snuff on the sift, but particularly when it's presented as being a demonstration of how awesome nature is. This is an unpleasant video and about as far from being awesome as it's possible to be. If a bullied animal gets it's own back on the person bullying it, nothing good has happened. The animals 'getting revenge' in this video will have been killed for what they did. Awesome would have been seeing these animals being rescued from their positions and looked after properly before things got that bad. This is just sad.

I have to disagree on "nothing good has happened".
IMHO if the abusers died for what they did to the animals, the world is a little bit better.
And to take the edge out of the snuff-judgement:
a) the bungee jumper was fake
b) the dude arm wrestling the crocodile, alive and had it coming
c) the fucktard participating in the toro-chase in spain? Educational I hope.
d) the poacher for torturing the cat? Educational too.
Disturbing yes. Snuff no! Because there is a valueable lesson attached.

While I agree this definitely is not snuff, and so do 13 others, including myself again, should we not take all valid-ish concerns and discuss them? That's just because I am very rules-centered. (I hate guidelines, but not rules, funny huh?) And hurricanes are not "newsworthy" because they happen everyday somewhere @robbersdog49 but it is educational and this particular video is both morality based and educational.

Respect nature, or else.

>> ^robbersdog49:

Nature can be awesome. Truly inspiring and incredible. The last sequence with the Buffalo calf being attacked by lions and then a crocodile and then being saved, that's awesome nature. Why the images of people being very badly injured/killed by animals? That's not nature. I don't believe that none of the victims died, this isn't a news story and I'm pretty sure that makes this snuff.
Nature can be horrendous as well as beautiful. I've watched lions in Kenya catch and kill a Zebra and it really was a horrible thing to see and hear. It took a long time to die. What you normally see on TV is the edited down version. Death is a part of nature, a part of life. The lioness had cubs and they would survive thanks to her killing ability. It wasn't just mindless violence.
I don't like to see snuff on the sift, but particularly when it's presented as being a demonstration of how awesome nature is. This is an unpleasant video and about as far from being awesome as it's possible to be. If a bullied animal gets it's own back on the person bullying it, nothing good has happened. The animals 'getting revenge' in this video will have been killed for what they did. Awesome would have been seeing these animals being rescued from their positions and looked after properly before things got that bad. This is just sad.


>> ^luxury_pie:

>> ^robbersdog49:
Nature can be awesome. Truly inspiring and incredible. The last sequence with the Buffalo calf being attacked by lions and then a crocodile and then being saved, that's awesome nature. Why the images of people being very badly injured/killed by animals? That's not nature. I don't believe that none of the victims died, this isn't a news story and I'm pretty sure that makes this snuff.
Nature can be horrendous as well as beautiful. I've watched lions in Kenya catch and kill a Zebra and it really was a horrible thing to see and hear. It took a long time to die. What you normally see on TV is the edited down version. Death is a part of nature, a part of life. The lioness had cubs and they would survive thanks to her killing ability. It wasn't just mindless violence.
I don't like to see snuff on the sift, but particularly when it's presented as being a demonstration of how awesome nature is. This is an unpleasant video and about as far from being awesome as it's possible to be. If a bullied animal gets it's own back on the person bullying it, nothing good has happened. The animals 'getting revenge' in this video will have been killed for what they did. Awesome would have been seeing these animals being rescued from their positions and looked after properly before things got that bad. This is just sad.

I have to disagree on "nothing good has happened".
IMHO if the abusers died for what they did to the animals, the world is a little bit better.
And to take the edge out of the snuff-judgement:
a) the bungee jumper was fake
b) the dude arm wrestling the crocodile, alive and had it coming
c) the fucktard participating in the toro-chase in spain? Educational I hope.
d) the poacher for torturing the cat? Educational too.
Disturbing yes. Snuff no! Because there is a valueable lesson attached.

>> ^robbersdog49:

Nature can be awesome. Truly inspiring and incredible. The last sequence with the Buffalo calf being attacked by lions and then a crocodile and then being saved, that's awesome nature. Why the images of people being very badly injured/killed by animals? That's not nature. I don't believe that none of the victims died, this isn't a news story and I'm pretty sure that makes this snuff.
Nature can be horrendous as well as beautiful. I've watched lions in Kenya catch and kill a Zebra and it really was a horrible thing to see and hear. It took a long time to die. What you normally see on TV is the edited down version. Death is a part of nature, a part of life. The lioness had cubs and they would survive thanks to her killing ability. It wasn't just mindless violence.
I don't like to see snuff on the sift, but particularly when it's presented as being a demonstration of how awesome nature is. This is an unpleasant video and about as far from being awesome as it's possible to be. If a bullied animal gets it's own back on the person bullying it, nothing good has happened. The animals 'getting revenge' in this video will have been killed for what they did. Awesome would have been seeing these animals being rescued from their positions and looked after properly before things got that bad. This is just sad.

I have to disagree on "nothing good has happened".
IMHO if the abusers died for what they did to the animals, the world is a little bit better.
And to take the edge out of the snuff-judgement:
a) the bungee jumper was fake
b) the dude arm wrestling the crocodile, alive and had it coming
c) the fucktard participating in the toro-chase in spain? Educational I hope.
d) the poacher for torturing the cat? Educational too.

Disturbing yes. Snuff no! Because there is a valueable lesson attached.