That guy wearing the keffiyeh (@2:11) has the best "Oh fuck I may die!" face.

First of all, Schiff didn't get schooled, unless you count him appealing to the disbandment of the EPA, FDA, and Board of Education as him schooling himself. The protester he chose to verbsterbate over was not interested in the kind of 'debate' Schiff was looking for. Or, perhaps, that's what it's supposed to look like with the dude in the suit staring down a protester in a keffiyeh, and Schiff got what he wanted, firing up his fellow suit-wearer base. Looks pretty allegorical to me, though.

Anyway marbles, crosswords: Crosswords' post regarding the arguments Schiff is making were more or less in line with the points Schiff spoke. #1 is more in line, @1:25s Schiff makes the argument that corporations 'need' to move their production elsewhere because Americans demand lower prices than corps can profit from if production is in the US. Crossroads' statement of Schiff's position as: "AMERICAN WORKERS ARE DEMANDING MORE MONEY AND LOWER PRICES THAN CORPORATIONS CAN PROFIT FROM" is entirely in line with what Schiff is saying, simply adding that workers in the US want more money than workers elsewhere, which I'm sure Schiff himself wouldn't argue with.

Crossroads' #2 argument is a bit more of an extension of Schiff's ideas however I think it emerges out of the sentiment expressed by Schiff about the CEO of Apple having a right to give people jobs wherever he wants. The point being made by the protester is that Steve has an obligation to the US, from which he has gained so much, to try to keep manufacturing jobs in the US (another argument for another time, please) to which Schiff says @1:05 "The American people don't own those jobs. Steve Jobs has a right to manufacture where he wants." Now Crossroads' "I WORKED HARD TO EARN EVERYTHING I GOT, SO I DESERVE TO KEEP IT ALL AND DO WHATEVER I WANT" certainly echoes that sentiment. Also, I think you can glean that sentiment from virtually all of what Schiff is saying, from the Apple manufacturing to the abolishment of the various gov't agencies (I can explain that specific point more if you'd like, but think it would be beside the point right now).

So I really do feel like Crossroads' paraphrasing of Schiff's statements is entirely within the realm of the reasonable. And even where they're pushing those boundaries to call them 'douchey' arguments certainly seems baseless. So, marbles, do you have any anything to say about the content of Crossroad's rebuttals to the arguments Schiff has presented?

The red and white keffiyeh means he's probably Jordanian.

(I was curious. Did some quick research.)

The scarf she's wearing that Horowitz commented on is called a Keffiyeh, which is a fairly traditional Arab garment. The specific black and white pattern on hers is mostly associated with Yasser Arafat, hence the Terrorist reference.

Have hipsters upgraded from keffiyehs to hijabs already?

HER BOYFRIEND IS WEARING A KEFFIYEH! THE TERRORISTS WIN!!!

>> ^MrConrads:
I think I spotted a keffiyeh in this clip gasp... everyone associated with this movie must support terrorism.


You noticed it's starring Bill Mahr right? And the bit about it coming from the studio that produced Fahrenheit 9/11?

To Michelle Malkin, those are completely equivalent to Osama bin Laden and Al'Qaeda.

The gay muslims are just icing at that point.

I think I spotted a keffiyeh in this clip *gasp... everyone associated with this movie must support terrorism.

Solmed,
I will admit that I am guilty of the same over generalization that I am chastising. By no means did I mean to say that everyone that is or was offended by her wearing the scarf is racist. For that I truly am sorry.

With that said I still maintain that what the "right-wing bloggers" asserted IS racist.
How is it any different than any other disgusting racist generalization put upon a group or race of people?

All Middle eastern or ANYONE for that matter who wears a keffiyeh or anything remotely similar to one are sponsors of terrorism or terrorists themselves????

If they are going to go that far as to assume that then when will it end? Does that also mean that anyone using box cutters are actually plane high jackers in training?

or who knows maybe it was dunkin donuts who started the whole anthrax scare with their "powdered sugar" donuts...

>> ^quantumushroom:
Malkin:

The keffiyeh, for the clueless, is the traditional scarf of Arab men that has come to symbolize murderous Palestinian jihad. Popularized by Yasser Arafat and a regular adornment of Muslim terrorists appearing in beheading and hostage-taking videos, the apparel has been mainstreamed by both ignorant (and not so ignorant) fashion designers, celebrities and left-wing icons.

Nazis ruined the swastika so why wouldn't this garment take the hit after being draped on the heads of terror-rats?

The Young Turds should be grateful for anything to talk about.


The keffiyah has only become a symbol in your eyes and in the the eyes of others who are looking for more things in the world to hate.

Many of the architects of the war crime called Operation Iraqi Freedom wear U.S. flag lapel pins. Should we oppose all displays of the American flag because of this? Wait, don't answer that, QM. I know you're proud of our country's atrocities.

Malkin:

The keffiyeh, for the clueless, is the traditional scarf of Arab men that has come to symbolize murderous Palestinian jihad. Popularized by Yasser Arafat and a regular adornment of Muslim terrorists appearing in beheading and hostage-taking videos, the apparel has been mainstreamed by both ignorant (and not so ignorant) fashion designers, celebrities and left-wing icons.


Nazis ruined the swastika so why wouldn't this garment take the hit after being draped on the heads of terror-rats?


The Young Turds should be grateful for anything to talk about.

Do you think Dunkin Donuts would serve me and take my money if I walked in wearing a Keffiyeh? I'll bet they would.

Ricockulous. And I'm not even a coffee fan.

I do, on the other hand, think those Keffiyehs are pretty! So I'm sold on that part...

The scarf is called a Keffiyeh which has several other names as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keffiyeh

Learn how to tie one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MbmazCMuZI

More detailed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dx-2vCXta0