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Shear Pins are Smart (They're Mechanical Fuses)

RFlagg says...

I'm still at a loss on why he's waiting for a ride? Disconnect the tractor from the equipment, drive the tractor back... Heck, I'd think even once the PTO shaft was disconnected, he'd still be able to tow the equipment back using the tractor.

EDIT: Of course, I'd guess it would take a few tools to disconnect the equipment so it could drive back, or tow... so perhaps that's what he's waiting for, tools, not really just a ride, and then tow the tractor and equipment back...

Massive Police Chase Against Stunt Motorcycles

newtboy says...

I disagree on nearly all points.

Can't outrun the radio. That's why they have backup. They can't outrun the helicopter in town either, and there's no escape on the freeway if the cops roadblock it.
I guess you didn't notice the one they did hit. No one pulled a gun and attacked the cop, did they?
Could have trapped them all in the underpass if they were on the ball. They should have come in with 4-5 cars at once and blocked it off front and rear, then shot anyone trying to escape.
Really, you assume they're so dumb they would all commit crimes armed (making just dirty riding a violent felony) and have a shootout with the cops (which would instantly make any group riding a SWAT priority from now on). Guaranteed, the first time that happens is the last time more than 3 motorcycles ride together without being stopped and harassed anywhere in the country.
Couple of hundred?!? I only saw around 50. Cops take control of riots that have thousands -tens of thousands of actors all the time. That's no excuse or reason.
They aren't any danger to the police or public if they're wrecked on the road.
Police follow in hopes of catching them in any way, be it trapped, fallen, wrecked, given up, went home, on camera, etc.
Lots that can be done. Since they have multiple camera views of all of them, they can stop them any time they see a bike that looks like one of them on the road and try to put them in prison for wreckless endangerment (a good reason all riders should HATE these people, innocent bikers get harassed for having similar bikes all the time). I do understand that SOME of those bikes are stolen, or unregistered, but most are not and those riders may give up their compatriots.
1%ers only make up 1%.

My point is, if police take this seriously like the attack on the public that it is and aggressively go after them with the cop cars, they will think twice and not operate on YOUR assumptions that the cops won't do a thing....which is why they continue this crap, that assumption. If every single time a group goes 'riding dirty' at least one of them ends up dead or paralyzed, it will end FAST.
You know how much damage that cop car would suffer by running them over....none! ;-)

Chairman_woo said:

They were playing with the police the entire time, pretty much all of those bikes could outrun even the police helicopter if they wanted to. (not exaggerating)

If the police took to more aggressive stopping tactics, the riders would simply give it all the beans and disappear as soon as they saw them, instead of goading them like they did in that vid.

They could try and set up a fortified position in their path or take swipes into the crowd but that leads into the big one for me; many of them likely have guns & other weapons! If the police escalate the violence to death and serious injury by ramming & spike traps or back them into a corner, they would be giving the bikers incentive to fight back.

I might argue that escalation of violence would be more dangerous to the public than the anti-social riding.

There was a couple of 100 of them at least. Unless you are going to call in the national guard or some such, no police force is likely to have the manpower to win that fight if it came to it. (these people are demonstrably a bit crazy after all)

The police aren't stupid. Ethics aside, a gang of a few 100 lunatics is just more than almost any police force can deal with when together. That's why they don't scatter, they know that in a pack they are basically untouchable.

Police follow and hope to catch out the ones that fall off or otherwise make a mistake. Beyond that all they can really do is go after the gang in the traditional way; informants, infiltrators, slip ups and so on.

I understand the outrage, but practically speaking there is little more can be done other than subsequent investigations by the gang unit. Very difficult as you can't prove a given bike was involved without plates and chassis numbers. Or for that matter that a given individual was riding it at the time anyway.

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Crazy Driver Intentionally Hits Cyclists

messenger says...

But these Critical Mass pricks certainly are a self-righteous bunch.
In large part, fair, I suppose.

This is not a protest; this is assholes coming together to inconvenience everyone else.
Not so. Protests are not designed to be convenient. They're designed to get attention. Some disrupt people's lives a lot. CM only does a little. Also, you could as easily describe all car drivers as "assholes coming together to inconvenience everyone else" every day during rush hour, but I'm guessing you're a car driver, so you empathise with them, but not with cyclists.

...bikes have to obey traffic laws, just like cars and buses. Critical Mass does not obey traffic laws; that's the whole point of the event...
Well, no. Breaking laws "at every opportunity" is not the point of CM. You acknowledge it's a protest, of sorts, so you shouldn't be surprised that we go through stop signs. Big deal. As for property damage, that's not part of CM. Not sure what you've been reading. Beyond traffic laws, we generally don't do anything wrong, and IMO, people who do should be arrested.

so they don't have to do the proper paperwork for an event
Some cities do file the paperwork every month. Don't know which ones. Not mine. I don't like that idea because it requires declaring an official leader and an official "parade route", both of which miss the point of not needing to ask permission to use our own roads, and the point of it being a protest, not a parade.

they should all be ticketed and the few who take it even further, smashing car windows and such, should be arrested too. There's no reason they should be above the law, no matter how much they believe they are.
Fair. Any cyclists who break laws beyond traffic laws are stepping outside the protest, and are fair to arrest. And we sometimes are arrested, but usually just for riding our bikes, you know, like peaceful protesters often get arrested. But mostly, the police respect us as harmless protesters and let us go on our way, sometimes even helping to block intersections for us.

Make CM a cyclists' parade... it'll do wonders for your PR.
So, the exact same protest, but with some city bureaucrat's stamp on a piece of paper, and suddenly now it's OK with you? I mean, is it OK, or isn't it? If it's OK, then why do you care if we have a permit? If it's not OK with you, again, what difference would it make if we had a permit?>> ^xxovercastxx:

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8 Year-old Boy Has Sex Change!

dannym3141 says...

Bananafone - there are many ways in which parents paint over the opinions/beliefs of a child, this is only different because we see it as a sensitive issue in adults.

Do we try to place ourselves in the position of a child raised as a fundaMENTAList christian, and consider what THEIR feelings might be? Let's be honest, we don't - certainly not in the way we do in cases like this. The parents of my hypothetical child just raise their child to the best standard they know of, they do what they consider their best by their child. If that child suddenly decided "Hey, religion is bogus, i don't want this anymore!" I highly doubt the parents will say "Ok, i'll get a babysitter for sunday mornings. You can stay home."

My point here is that people raise their children to what they consider their is in the child's best interest. The child doesn't get the option.

So, for me, the question should be "Is it wise to let a child dictate his own upbringing?" Because i'm sure if you start doing this for EVERY child (not just the children who walk a line along modern society's sensitive topics that will guarantee an outcry), then we'll end up having children dictating that every meal must be chocolate and cream with milkshake.

Don't mind me, i just find it interesting how people (as a whole) change their behaviour based on how "sensitive" the topic is supposed to be. If this was a child who decided they wanted to join a "in 5 years we all drink poison" cult, you'd be saying oh the mother should just over ride the silly child's whimsy. But because it's the buzz-topic of sexuality, everyone's pro choice for the evidently mature child. I'm not being facetious either, i genuinely find it interesting how easily we can draw a line and consider the same philosophy sensible and another thing insane just by hitting a sensitive topic. It doesn't have to be deadly poison either, it could be poison to make your arm fall off - i suppose that would be similarly life-changing as realising you'd made a mistake 10 years ago about wanting to be a woman.

Personally, i take the mother-of-rottenseed (rottenapple?) approach - i'm fine with a child of mine being whatever they want to be, but i certainly wouldn't raise with a direction/destination in mind until they were old enough to have a reasonable and intelligent input.

See Cop... grab brake... crash hard.

See Cop... grab brake... crash hard.

See Cop... grab brake... crash hard.

UCLA students protest an increase in tuition of 32%

Kevlar says...

I like how one cop/security guard to the left has a bike helmet, as though he was just happily riding his bike on a Sunday afternoon (in uniform) and happened to come across a charged demonstration.

"They need my help!", he grimaces through coffee-stained teeth. One honk of his bike's comically oversized horn and, quickly, Officer Jim has regained control of the situation by showing those students he means business.

And he didn't even have to pull his taser from his grocery basket.

SpaceOddity (Member Profile)

rasch187 says...

Good question. The only thing I could find on it is that it's from a stand-up series called "The A-List", broadcast on Comedy Central. This performance was apparently taped in 1992.

If you're interested, here are some great documentaries:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Just-A-Ride-Totally-Bill-Hicks-DVD-documentary
http://www.videosift.com/video/Outlaw-Comic-The-Censoring-Of-Bill-Hicks-documentary-77mins

In reply to this comment by SpaceOddity:
Awesome. I've never seen this footage before, what show/tour is it? the only DVD I've been able to find is Bill Hicks LIVE, with One Night Stand, Revelations and Relentless.

The Enicycle

MarineGunrock says...

>> ^mxxcon:
>> ^MarineGunrock:
Or you could, you know, put a second wheel on there and save a shit ton of battery power so you don't have to use energy just to keep it upright.

you are not using battery to keep it from tilting to the sides. the human does that just like riding a bike.
once you get up to certain speed, angular momentum will it stable.


Human and gyroscopic balancing only work on one axis, there smart one.

The Enicycle

mxxcon says...

>> ^MarineGunrock:
Or you could, you know, put a second wheel on there and save a shit ton of battery power so you don't have to use energy just to keep it upright.


you are not using battery to keep it from tilting to the sides. the human does that just like riding a bike.
once you get up to certain speed, angular momentum will it stable.

I don't want a pickle!

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