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modulous says...

Ah, this video would have been nice twenty years ago when I had a week long nerd argument with someone about the nature of wizards. I insisted they were like the Olympians and were basically the demi-gods of Middle Earth while my opponent was convinced they were men, citing Gandalf's apparent focus on men and hobbits. I had to trawl through a bunch of JRR and Christopher's material to win that argument - a 4 minute video may have saved me some stress!

Like JRR, I haven't been able to finish the Silmarillion (managed the first two parts only), though I did enjoy The Music of the Ainur as one of the coolest creation stories I've come across.

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The Origins of Dragons in Middle Earth

gorillaman says...

It's probably a really good idea to open up the endlessly raging Bombadil controversy. Well so what, Tolkienian cosmology is fascinating. To some extent he's a deliberate enigma. Personally I favour the idea, if he's explicable at all, that he's the spirit of Arda itself or at least the foremost of a number of more provincial spirits. There are competing theories, but it's not really possible that he's a Maia.

Certainly there were any number of Maiar still knocking around at the time of the Fellowship: Gandalf, Saruman, et al; Sauron; Durin's Bane; Gwaihir; arguably Shelob (half-Maia at best); and depending on how widely you want to define 'in Middle Earth', Arien & Tilion (the bearers of the sun & moon), presumably Osse & Uinen, etc.

Bombadil calls himself, and the elves agree, 'eldest', and he claims to have been around before Melkor, who was definitively the first of the Ainur to descend into the circles of the world. He's unaffected by, and not really interested in, the Ring, unlike the Maiar who come into contact with it in the course of the story.

Ilúvatar set the Secret Fire, which gives sentient creatures their fëar or souls, burning at the heart of the world. I can't see an origin for Tom that doesn't derive directly from that, given that at the point he appears in the chronology there's very little else in existence.

I don't know what all this makes Goldberry.

artician said:

I thought Tom Bombadil was one of the last Maiar in Middle Earth, at the time of the Fellowship. Am I thinking of a different tier of being?

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