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Beau schools on schooling: why 'FREE' scares Biff & Babs

luxintenebris says...

the whole 'worthless degrees' is largely bogus. unless it's a DJT University ratskin, just the experience alone broads a person's mind (some more/some less).

a cartoon once read where a woman lamented to her girlfriend, that as a housewife, she didn't get to use her psychology degree. her husband interrupts them complaining about the cleanness of the floors. the wife tells him she just did them and the argument goes into overdrive. finally, she chides him w/"oh! big talk! as if you could do better!" oh, of course, he takes the bait, rolls up his sleeves...and the wife's friend smilingly says "you never use it?"

don't think it ever goes to total waste.

and bk33's contention that free education would be undervalued is largely bupkiss too: the desire to pay back is often a motivation; enhances the tax base; fills jobs that translate to greater national security...etc. the value is too great to be ignored. for the country or the individual.

even if it was worthless, it still can be appreciated. like the time Bob Newhart told the story of a tryst he had w/a woman he met at a party. both drunk, ending up in the back of his car - - as he put it, "it meant nothing. never saw her again. it was the cheapest, meaningless moment that i'll never forget for the rest of my life!"

btw: an idea of what a French citizen pays at the Sorbonne
https://www.unipage.net/en/5563/paris_sorbonne_university

newtboy said:

When my mother graduated summa cum laude from Rice University, it was one of the most respected universities in America and 100% free. Her degrees are anything but worthless. So much for that talking point.

In California, jr colleges are quite affordable, when I went it was under $250 a semester for 15+ units, all transferable to nearly any 4 year school. That’s a savings of about $80 k on freshman and sophomore years alone. The classes were small, the professors award winners, and they got to teach instead of trying to weed out 2/3 of the class like many 4 year colleges. Now in many cases 2 years of full class schedules are free in California at least. I don’t know why anyone would go to a 4 year college for freshman and sophomore year.

I didn’t care about a degree, so I stayed at jr college for 10 years taking whatever I wanted. More people should take advantage of them.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Half right. Trump is like a tumor….a malignant tumor on America’s taint…surrounded by nuts and assholes. (Really, he’s closer to fournier’s gangrene…google it but don’t click images)

If he would stop trying to overthrow the American government, stop committing treason, stop the espionage and was finally forced to face the consequences of his actions, made an example of rather than coddled, I would never give him another thought.

It’s only because he’s actually demanding an overthrow of the elected president and sitting senators and house representatives, talking heads, and ignorant masses act like he’s right not treasonous, continuing to commit treason after his failed election frauds and failed coup with hundreds of stolen top secret classified documents, and has definitely committed espionage just by having the top secret classified documents outside a compartmentalized facility designed to house them securely that I give him a moment’s notice even if he didn’t share/sell them already. If there weren’t so many crazy cultists like you prepared to become a dictatorship under their cult leader, he would be harmless and therefore not a concern and not given a thought….but there are millions of you putting cult of personality over country.

Biden lives in your brain 24/7….for no reason. Even Hunter lives there….that’s like me obsessing about Tiffany, the only Trump not an in your face nepotistic government grifter.

bobknight33 said:

Trump lives in yo0u brain, like the tumor you have.

Walt Disney Presents: A Clockwork Orange

Lock Him Up Yesterday! - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody

newtboy says...

You miss his point….he’s saying the law is just for show.

He’s saying absolutely nothing should keep Trump from running in 24, not stealing and selling nuclear secrets, not killing 1 million Americans, not trying to end democracy in America, not a dozen separate vote frauds, not even his sex/pee tapes with Ivanka from when he fathered Barron with her….in fact his sex tapes with Barron won’t even do it, there’s absolutely nothing possible that should stop Trump from running….nothing. No matter who tells bob about crimes, it doesn’t matter. Trump is above the law (to cultists) and should just be dictator for life until he hands the nation to cokehead Jr.

You know that’s what he really means.

Fox admitting Trump committed treason only means Fox is now leftist and not to be trusted….fake news. Finally they got one right.

bcglorf said:

Good news Bob, in something of an anomaly, you've got an opportunity to read the truth about this incident on foxnews(I know, it's opposite day in the world):

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-mar-a-lago-search-justified

Link is above, but choice quote from FOX themselves follows:


If this were a mere issue of simply recovering unclassified presidential records, though, there likely never would have been a criminal element to this matter. But buried into those boxes were countless properly marked classified documents. Those documents lacked any markings indicating that Trump had ever declassified them. No actual substantiated evidence indicates Mr. Trump ever declassified them. No one viewing those records would have any reason to view them as anything other than properly classified documents.

The government tried to recover the documents peacefully and quietly. They spent one year discussing the matter with Trump’s staff, and 15 boxes were sent back to NARA in February.

After identifying more missing records, the government returned in June with a subpoena and found more boxes of records that should have been returned. Both times, properly marked classified documents – up to and including documents marked as Top Secret and requiring Sensitive Compartmented Information access eligibility – were located within the boxes.

A Trump lawyer swore out an affidavit promising there were no more documents. The government gathered evidence that the Trump lawyer was not being truthful, and on August 8, 2022, a court-authorized search warrant was executed that, sure enough, located several more classified documents.

That is not an abuse of law enforcement processes. That is how the law works.


Now I'm going to repeat the last statement there for emphasis, but even FOX stated it: That is not an abuse of law enforcement processes. That is how the law works.

“Don’t Look Up” in Real Life

newtboy says...

19 of the 20 hottest years ever recorded have occurred in the last 21 years.
8 of the hottest 8 years ever recorded were the last 8 years.

Black is not white. Up is not down. Hot is not cold….no matter how many times you say it, Bob. Being too dumb to even understand the science or its implications have you just denying it….like if you don’t understand it must not be true. 🤦‍♂️
It is well known that the right’s MO is to just lie about what their opponent claims, then debunk their own lie, ignoring the actual claims. It’s the best you can do, and the right’s constituents are so intellectually absent, incurious, and not just willing but wanting to be spoon fed propaganda that you buy it without ever investigating a thing. I know this to be true, because everyone who actually looks at the data (and doesn’t just misrepresent it completely) comes to the same conclusion (unless they’re selling something).

2030 did not come from Greta. It came from multiple climate reports, except for those who said we had less time.
It’s a purposeful intent to mislead the public to say the reports say ultimate disaster happens in 2030, they don’t, and the right knows they don’t say that and knows that’s not what climate activists say either…it says at current rates (when the report was written) by 2030 1.5C rise would be locked in, unavoidable. CO2 can last 300-1000 years actively in the atmosphere. Stopping adding CO2 and methane when we are at the line of 1.5C rise is planning for disaster with no backup and no margin for error when the stakes are literally survival of the species and civilization. In fact, rates have increased since the data was collected, so 2030 is too late….2000 may have been too late to stop runaway climate change, but we can still minimize or slow the impacts.

1.5C is when we lose control and feedback loops (likely) take over our ability to have any control. It’s too bad so many idiots are too dumb to comprehend that yet still have the resources to effect the outcome. “Mea culpa” isn’t going to restore the planet when they finally admit the undeniable, neither is their heads on pikes nor their children being used as food, but that’s where we’re going. Too bad we aren’t there yet, it would save a hell of a lot of problems if we just eradicated the irresponsible money worshiping morons in favor of people who put a livable planet above record quarterly profits.

bobknight33 said:

Climate change denial

Chaos erupts at LA City Hall as council votes to ban homeles

newtboy says...

Her final statement is unbelievably clueless…Fear is precisely why they created this legislation and the only reason why it has any support at all.
A more accurate statement would have been “we will not legislate based on reality or reason, and certainly not with compassion or empathy.”
Criminalizing homelessness, which for 98% of homeless is not a choice, is not just draconian, heartless, and insanely expensive, it also doesn’t address the issue one bit. After paying to remove and/or incarcerate them, they don’t disappear, they get out of jail or get pushed out of the neighboring communities and are still homeless.

Also, California prisons are insanely overcrowded….how exactly do they expect to jail every non compliant homeless person? By releasing the violent career criminals, murderers and rapists that are pretty much the only ones left in Ca prisons? Great plan.

There are few places in LA that aren’t excluded by this ordinance. Anyone that babysits children or any office building with any daycare offered by a resident becomes a “day care center”, and any home schooled child a “school”.
It reminds me of some local anti smoking ordinances that banned smoking almost everywhere in Davis except the center of a major intersection….which clearly wasn’t a good place for smoking breaks. I think it was struck down.

In 1933, the Nazi Party passed a Law "against Habitual and Dangerous Criminals", which allowed for the relocation of beggars, homeless, and the unemployed to concentration camps. Just saying.

newtboy (Member Profile)

San Francisco 1906 (New Version) in Color [60fps, Remastered

BSR says...

A Trip Down Market Street Before the Fire Prelinger 4K to 2K scan from best existing film material



This scan of the legendary pre-earthquake film was made from the best existing material at 4K (4096 x 3072) resolution and transcoded to 2K (2048 x 1536) for YouTube. It was scanned by Adrianne Finelli at Internet Archive on October 11, 2018 using a Lasergraphics ScanStation scanner at 5120 x 3840 and scanned to 16 frames per second. Due to the limitations of Final Cut Pro, every second frame is doubled for a playback rate of 24 frames per second, so the running time remains the same. The part of the image that lies between the film preparations is exhibited here for the first time.

Anyone may reproduce or reuse this scan. Please attribute it to its source: Prelinger Archives.

robdot said:

Should have also supplied the original..

Thoughts and Prayers - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody

luxintenebris says...

thoughts and prayers

is it ; "can we dissuade the gun control people from finally getting their way?"

that the thought or prayer? bet it is one in the same.

Maddow on Josh Hawley running from the mob on Jan 6th

newtboy says...

Wow. What damning evidence. Criminal acts on display.
What “fucking bullshit”?

Your little tantrums?
The election fraud fraud?…yes, total fucking bullshit, as evidenced again today when emails between John Eastman and Giuliani on Jan 20 were released, suggesting they claim fraud in the Georgia runoff election from Jan 5, and IF they could find some fraud there it would help with the baseless claim of fraud in the November election, despite there being no evidence of fraud in that election (or the runnoff).

“ A lot of us have now staked our reputations on the claims of election fraud. And this would be a way to gather proof. If we get proof of fraud on January 5th, it will likely also demonstrate the fraud on November 3rd, thereby vindicating president Trump's claims and serving as a strong bull work against Senate impeachment trial.”

Admitting on Jan 20 in private that they have NO evidence of fraud, none, nada, zero, zip, zilch….none Bob…not a scintilla. Some rando nut job on Twitter suggested it and Rudy and the rest just ran with it, no verification of anything, he’s admitted that.

I wonder…when rabid Trumpists finally come back to reality and realize they are anti American terroristic traitors that attacked their country (and gave aid and comfort to traitors attacking the country)…how many of you patriots will rally and riot to “hang the traitors” then? Not enough.

bobknight33 said:

Wow What damning evidence. Criminal acts on display.


What fucking Bull shit.

Bannon On Oct 31 Outlining The Plan To Steal The Election

newtboy says...

Aaaaahahahaha. Really into projection today, aren’t you?

High horse!? You must be kidding. Just like I’m elitist but living barely above poverty level income….not sure these terms mean what you think they mean.

It’s only because your head is so firmly implanted in your rectum that everything seems like shit. You need to pull it out, wipe yourself off, and give yourself a good scrubbing, maybe reality won’t smell so bad to you anymore. You also might finally see something besides what Trump feeds you.

Too bad all those “falsehoods” are verified facts with cited trustworthy sources, unlike you who just makes up facts they think sound (far) right based on nothing but wishful thinking. Hilarious that you never contradict the facts I provide, you just denounce them offhand because you don’t like them. Real adult.

bobknight33 said:

Because you stand on you high horse and spew shit.

An elitist of falsehoods.

Tesla BLOWS AWAY Expectations. (Q2 2022 Recap )

bobknight33 says...

How well do you follow Tesla? Most likely you answer is near zero. But you sure have all the answers.


Once again You foolishness is on full display. Cherry picking numbers? Thats ok

I said it was down a great amount. 20% or your 32% pick your date pick you %. Does not matter.

IF chicken was on sale 20% or 32% below normal pricing you would buy? Same with Tesla.


This is due to the overall economy. not from anything Tesla is doing. Tesla is is growing. 84% last year and 70% the year before.

This Q2 growth was only 50% . Mostly due the china shutdown. China is back up and running and at record capacity.



Biden economy and Communist fuckery is holding Tesla down , not Tesla. Hence it is a great buy.

Maybe your just a Union only guy? Thats OK.


Regardless of current stock price., who wouldn't want to buy the stock of a company growing 50% YOY?

I follow daily. I have about 1500 shares in the Tesla. And your are right I am down from that $1200 high. But I'm looking long term. 5 year min. I see explosive growth over nest 8 years.

Tesla goal is to make 20Million vehicles/year. Last year nearly 80 million vehicles were made globally. ICE vehicle sales are declining about 7% YoY since 2017. Al the while EV sales are growing.

What side of the fence do you wan t to be on? When Apple entered phone market they were a computer company. Today they have 20% of the phone market .



Apparently not the great intellectual foolish and ignorant @newtboy , who know everything about everything.


Finally, Now you want Elon to buy Twitter?
$1 billion penalty. That nothing to Elon.

Guess if MSNBC says something it must be true.
Newt, your one gullible dude, lady, sis whatever.

newtboy said:

Crushing it…Down 32.6% ytd from $1199 Jan 3 to $815 today, not 20%….why must you lie in every post?
Be prepared for it to plummet if Elon is forced to go through with buying Twitter or even pay the $1 billion cancellation fee, because he will have to sell that much Tesla stock to pay.

Biden Approval WTF

bobknight33 says...

Nice guy, yes
Moral, yes


Weak leader, yes

He failed to get out hostages. I believe 52+ week
He did tried and mission failed. Mission mishap - 6 dead
Finally on his last day, last hours negotiated agreement that included 8 billion bucks of held money.
This issue had a looming cloud over his presidency.

Like Joe Biden>
Failed to control inflation
Failed to do much about gas prices.

newtboy said:

Yes…brilliant in fact…and moral to the extreme, and ethical beyond reproach, and a genuinely nice, thoughtful person too. None of those traits are positives to you though.
And let’s not forget, besides sea testing new nuclear submarines he was also “assisting in the design and development of nuclear propulsion plants for naval vessels.”…but only reached LT, not Captain.

Explain, specifically how was he poor as president?
Because he didn’t go to war in Iran (nor would he break the law and collude with them and sell them weapons like Reagan)?
Because he advocated for renewable energy that would have made us energy independent in the 80’s and oil free before 2000?
Exactly what?

Oh Bob. Always a laugh with you. The unintended self deprecation always brightens my day.

Today’s Jan 6 Hearing Summary And Possible Trump Charges

newtboy says...

If that were true, all that would be needed is for Cheney to run for President in 24 as an independent, something she won’t rule out. She would definitely siphon off any remaining Republicans from the Trumpist party, ensuring he lost….just like Perot did.
Proof you are, again, 100% wrong. This is to keep the rest of the Treasonous Trumpists from being able to run….and it’s working!

Of course, when charges finally come for little Donny…likely around July of 24…it won’t matter because insurrectionists and traitors can’t run for public office, and sane people don’t vote for someone facing a possible firing squad (I know you will though). Truth be told it might not matter anyway because he’s near death as it is.

Side note: can you even imagine the party ending tantrums we’ll see if he loses the primary!?

bobknight33 said:

Just a witch hunt to keep Trump from running in 2024.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Charges? Plenty of obstruction charges so far. Well over 850 (874?) Trumpists have been charged with attacking the capitol and police, some charged with treasonous sedition, some admitting to sedition….at Tump’s request and direction.

Perhaps you don’t know, the committee doesn’t charge criminals, it makes criminal referrals to the DOJ. The point is to find out what happened, and who caused it, not to charge anyone (except those who ignore their subpoenas or lie under oath, even then they only make referals). They don’t have that power, they have referral power only. They have made referrals for defendants that were charged, so you’ve been misled.

New charges? That’s up to Garland, who is dragging his feet, but criminal referrals to the DOJ with verified evidence of serious crimes Trump himself and his lackeys committed leading up to, during, and after the Jan 6 Trump led attack on democracy and against America are definitely coming soon. Cheney has said exactly that, there is more than enough direct evidence that Trump personally committed multiple serious crimes in relation to the Trump Treason of Jan 6…but the investigation is ongoing.
After the last hearing tons of new witnesses and evidence has come flooding in from people who finally realized they are on the wrong, and losing side of history here and are no longer hiding or refusing to testify about what they know or have proof of. There’s no statute of limitations on treason, or attempted murder, or actual murder (and everyone involved is guilty of killing a police officer legally just as much as if they murdered him themselves because they acted as a group, a gang, or a private army trying to take over a country.) The criminal referrals will come after testimony and evidence stops flowing in….but there are already multiple referrals in the works based on what they know now, with more coming if more comes to light.

Q: do you have any idea how many denials have become admissions due to the work of the committee? Hundreds. “I never gave tours.” Became “I gave one small family one tour.” Became “I gave 20 or so young militia members tours of security stations, back hallway routes to Democratic offices, and the secret escape route for congress and let them photograph and video all of it, then denied it, but now that the video is public I admit I did that, but it’s perfectly normal and not a bit suspicious.” That’s just ONE failed denial of hundreds the cons have tried.

Sorry, that’s hardly nothing. Maybe to a Russian troll it is, but it’s not nothing to Americans.

How are those rapidly dropping gas prices working for you? Democrat policies at work! Lol.

bobknight33 said:

And what criminal charges have come forth?

Nothing because its all BS, and you and your ilk are fools drinking it up.

How that $6/gal gas working for you and yours?
Democrat policies at work.



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