nononono dft,

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
6. Ernest Bornine's expulsion of blackwater from his digestive system the new Secretary of Veterans Affairs - Eric Shinseki's tiny penis.

6. Ernest Bornine's expulsion of blackwater from his digestive system.

I will also disagree here with qm and say that, whether there were Palestinians 60 years ago or not, there are Palestinians now, with a unique culture and identity separate from other peoples in the region.

Furthermore, plenty of the people who identify as Palestinians have ancestry in the region, and certainly a great deal of them have some kind of right to live in the area if they wish, as part of an independent Palestinian state or the State of Israel.

What they don't have a right to do is demand the end of the State of Israel and the death or expulsion of its residents.

>> ^Fade:
I'm sorry Bcglorf, that is entirely not the case. Show me some controlled demolition footage where the floors collapsing above caused an explosion of material 30 floors below that wasn't the result of explosives, but was the result of expulsion of air. While we're at it, show me a building that has collapsed in on itself without demolition control.
The only time I've ever seen those little puffs of material on a collapsing building is during controlled demo.


Well, professors of engineering from Northwestern University and MIT both dismiss the controlled demo theory out of hand in published and peer reviewed scientific journals. Sorry, I'll take their view over yours on what a controlled demo looks like.

As for the 'squibs' supposedly visible, they aren't nearly 30 floors down and they will not be caused by air, but by the smashing of the tower's concrete support beams. When several floors of skyscraper come crashing down on those beams they will shatter, explosively, and that should happen a few floors down too, not just where they are immediately in contact.

I'm sorry Bcglorf, that is entirely not the case. Show me some controlled demolition footage where the floors collapsing above caused an explosion of material 30 floors below that wasn't the result of explosives, but was the result of expulsion of air. While we're at it, show me a building that has collapsed in on itself without demolition control.

The only time I've ever seen those little puffs of material on a collapsing building is during controlled demo.

Sorry, but unlike most other Republicans, I don't like Bush and I vote with logic, not the bible.

In reply to this comment by thinker247:
You're a Republican, MG. You should keep the specifics out, and replace them with "Jesus" and "gotcha media."

Thanks for the in-depth answer. I was hoping someone with formal training in weaponry would provide a response.

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
Ugh. Not a one of you has first hand knowledge of these things. I wonder if anyone here does?

OH, THAT'S RIGHT!
1st of all, this is an Israeli-made bomblet. Not American. So all of you can redirect your anger there.

Secondly, American forces do EVERYTHING in their power to reduce and eliminate collateral damage. We fired about %15 of all the fire missions we received because higher command would not clear them due to being too close to civilian structures.

Thirdly, American cluster bomblets are equipped with self-detonation timers.

The two I have worked with are the RAAMS and the ADAMS systems.

ADAMS: Area Denial Artillery Munition System - Anti personnel clusters.

These 155mm projectiles detonate by a nose-mounted fuze that ignites a propellant expulsion charge, forcing off the baseplate (bottom of the round) so that the projectile's contents are ejected. The 155 mm M692 and M731 ADAM both carry 36 wedge-shaped anti-personnel mines. The M692 (shell body marked ADAM-L) carries 36 M67 mines with a factory-set self-destruct time of 'more than 24 hours'. The M731 (shell body marked ADAM-S) carries 36 M72 mines with a factory-set self-destruct time of 'less than 24 hours'. When the mines reach the ground, seven tripline sensors are released after a 60 second delay, and the detonators are armed to function at any small disturbance. When the mine detonates, a liquid propellant surrounding the explosive warhead is ignited. This breaks up the wedge-shaped body and hurls the spherical warhead upwards. A delay mechanism in the warhead allows it to reach a predetermined height before the contents are detonated to scatter hundreds of high-velocity anti-personnel fragments in all directions.
Cross-section image

RAAMS: Remote Anti Armor Munitions System\
Deployed the same way as the ADAMS, only they are tripped via electromagnetic sensors and there are 9 to a shell.
Cross-section image

I want to upvote because I love explosions, but I want to downvote for other stupid shit this video and commenters are saying.

You're a Republican, MG. You should keep the specifics out, and replace them with "Jesus" and "gotcha media."

Thanks for the in-depth answer. I was hoping someone with formal training in weaponry would provide a response.

In reply to this comment by MarineGunrock:
Ugh. Not a one of you has first hand knowledge of these things. I wonder if anyone here does?

OH, THAT'S RIGHT!
1st of all, this is an Israeli-made bomblet. Not American. So all of you can redirect your anger there.

Secondly, American forces do EVERYTHING in their power to reduce and eliminate collateral damage. We fired about %15 of all the fire missions we received because higher command would not clear them due to being too close to civilian structures.

Thirdly, American cluster bomblets are equipped with self-detonation timers.

The two I have worked with are the RAAMS and the ADAMS systems.

ADAMS: Area Denial Artillery Munition System - Anti personnel clusters.

These 155mm projectiles detonate by a nose-mounted fuze that ignites a propellant expulsion charge, forcing off the baseplate (bottom of the round) so that the projectile's contents are ejected. The 155 mm M692 and M731 ADAM both carry 36 wedge-shaped anti-personnel mines. The M692 (shell body marked ADAM-L) carries 36 M67 mines with a factory-set self-destruct time of 'more than 24 hours'. The M731 (shell body marked ADAM-S) carries 36 M72 mines with a factory-set self-destruct time of 'less than 24 hours'. When the mines reach the ground, seven tripline sensors are released after a 60 second delay, and the detonators are armed to function at any small disturbance. When the mine detonates, a liquid propellant surrounding the explosive warhead is ignited. This breaks up the wedge-shaped body and hurls the spherical warhead upwards. A delay mechanism in the warhead allows it to reach a predetermined height before the contents are detonated to scatter hundreds of high-velocity anti-personnel fragments in all directions.
Cross-section image

RAAMS: Remote Anti Armor Munitions System\
Deployed the same way as the ADAMS, only they are tripped via electromagnetic sensors and there are 9 to a shell.
Cross-section image

I want to upvote because I love explosions, but I want to downvote for other stupid shit this video and commenters are saying.

Ugh. Not a one of you has first hand knowledge of these things. I wonder if anyone here does?

OH, THAT'S RIGHT!
1st of all, this is an Israeli-made bomblet. Not American. So all of you can redirect your anger there.

Secondly, American forces do EVERYTHING in their power to reduce and eliminate collateral damage. We fired about %15 of all the fire missions we received because higher command would not clear them due to being too close to civilian structures.

Thirdly, American cluster bomblets are equipped with self-detonation timers.

The two I have worked with are the RAAMS and the ADAMS systems.

ADAMS: Area Denial Artillery Munition System - Anti personnel clusters.

These 155mm projectiles detonate by a nose-mounted fuze that ignites a propellant expulsion charge, forcing off the baseplate (bottom of the round) so that the projectile's contents are ejected. The 155 mm M692 and M731 ADAM both carry 36 wedge-shaped anti-personnel mines. The M692 (shell body marked ADAM-L) carries 36 M67 mines with a factory-set self-destruct time of 'more than 24 hours'. The M731 (shell body marked ADAM-S) carries 36 M72 mines with a factory-set self-destruct time of 'less than 24 hours'. When the mines reach the ground, seven tripline sensors are released after a 60 second delay, and the detonators are armed to function at any small disturbance. When the mine detonates, a liquid propellant surrounding the explosive warhead is ignited. This breaks up the wedge-shaped body and hurls the spherical warhead upwards. A delay mechanism in the warhead allows it to reach a predetermined height before the contents are detonated to scatter hundreds of high-velocity anti-personnel fragments in all directions.
Cross-section image

RAAMS: Remote Anti Armor Munitions System\
Deployed the same way as the ADAMS, only they are tripped via electromagnetic sensors and there are 9 to a shell.
Cross-section image

I want to upvote because I love explosions, but I want to downvote for other stupid shit this video and commenters are saying.

Just once I'd like to see protesters be more surgical with their strikes. Like the US war machine. Look at how efficient our weapons can be when necessary. Then look at some dumb white kids knocking over newspaper stands.

You want change? Don't knock over a Wall Street Journal stand; blow up Wall Street. Not that I'm advocating that, of course. But if your goal is radical social change and expulsion of capitalism, don't be so 1st grade about it. Pull a Fight Club scenario. Project Mayhem and all that good stuff.

anal-expulsive loop, rah-ther...

I have heard that before...

>> ^littledragon_79:

From wikipedia:
The Canadian colonies were thinly populated and only lightly defended by the British Army. Some Americans believed that many in Upper Canada would rise up and greet a United States invading army as liberators. The combination suggested an easy conquest, as former president Thomas Jefferson seemed to believe in 1812, "the acquisition of Canada this year, as far as the neighbourhood of Quebec, will be a mere matter of marching, and will give us the experience for the attack on Halifax, the next and final expulsion of England from the American continent."

The first amendment has been evaluated by the supreme court on numerous occasion in the last 75 years. It has evolved in its interpretation as to what free speech really means and what limits free speech bears. Obviously if McCain rented the property, she could be asked to leave, and failure to leave could result in arrest for trespassing. But would she have a right to protest under any circumstance?

NO, because time PLACE and manner are all very important. There are limits to when where and how you can say just about anything. I can say obscene things all I want in my home, but saying them in a public place would lead to my arrest. In this case her protest put her in close proximity to those she protest against. If I were mccain and trying to avoid a lawsuit because someone at my event assaulted a protester, I would certainly remove the protester. Abortion clinics are open to the public but your conduct must comply with the wishes of the property owner, ie you can't take your dead baby sign into the lobby.

If this were city property that was rented out to a private interest (which it was, read the link above to the news article) those same rules apply. The city is certainly entitled to rent out property to private groups. And those groups can selectively choose who may enter them. For example, I could rent that same location and make "white males only" as a requirement for attendance. There is nothing illegal about that. Racist sexist and immoral, but not illegal. Do you find it odd that they brought a video camera to record the expulsion from the event? I don't, they knew in advance they would be asked to leave this event. Do you generally go to events designed for people you disagree with and not expect conflict?

I haven't seen the KKK at any Obama rally's, for a similar reason I would guess. I am definitely not a klan member, but It would be interesting to put on the garb and record what happened to me when I went to the rally. I could make an internet video and create a buzz about how the communist liberals don't respect my rights and completely ignore the fact it was a private event with conditional requirement for attendance. It would be similar to this video I expect with the exception the posts would be about communist instead of fascist.

So it was the Canadians that did all that and not the British?

Also...
From wikipedia:
The Canadian colonies were thinly populated and only lightly defended by the British Army. Some Americans believed that many in Upper Canada would rise up and greet a United States invading army as liberators. The combination suggested an easy conquest, as former president Thomas Jefferson seemed to believe in 1812, "the acquisition of Canada this year, as far as the neighbourhood of Quebec, will be a mere matter of marching, and will give us the experience for the attack on Halifax, the next and final expulsion of England from the American continent."

I guess the U.S has a long and rich history of underestimating and poorly planning foreign conflicts. Dubya is just upholding a time honored American tradition.

nope kronos-I am not tired of being here,and I could give a fiddler's fuck about a siftquisition-you are wrong on the bridge-burning with the mentioned users as well.....well, blankfist anyway...I am simply not one to be polite and amicable when another party wants to continue, for the sake of his own bullshit.

No....and no major issues which would cause me to act unusual-this is the real me, no different in person-lot easier to iron out differences of opinion in private but, blankfist, playing the exhibitionist anal-expulsive, he simply can't help himself-I gave his plenty of opportunities to trade the kiddy-cloak for a business suit-

Basically, I used an opportunity for a moment of clear-light for him-for every action, an equal and opposite reaction-I am solidly justified in my actions, if for the simple fact alone that he decided to do a little ass-showing by using my handle here on the sift for a tribute-I understand the motivations came from some idea of appreciation, I simply used it to send him a message, not necessarily in simple groups of universally recognized symbols.(words) Go find karaidl's tasteful tribute, and watch how a 17 year old kid deals with a loud-mouthed, moron like myself.....this is simply the way I chose to deal with one.....

"^um... what exactly did I do wrong?" (bart fucking simpson)

Don't insult me or yourself anymore dude, I spelled it out plainly enough oh and JAPR,.....why bother-you are absolutely right, I defer to your exceptional reasoning regarding this particular issue-blow me.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
I cannot be clearer. Don't mess with my videos. You're abusing your powers. If you don't like my videos, you will need to act like every other person on here and downvote them. Do not discard my videos when they're not in violation of any sift rules.

If you dislike the cat fart video, then downvote it. You do not have the right to choose solely what is best for the community by discarding what you think is unfunny. If you think it is a selflink, then discuss it - you are not a one man siftquisition.

Furthermore, how about you leave me alone, and I'll do the same for you from this point on.

In reply to this comment by choggie:
dude, dude, chill baby-I hold no ill-will t'ward you, and everything, i mean EVERYTHING I say or do, I would say or do to myself-
I simply hate toilet humor for the most part, and you my son, like I once did, gravitate towards it-One of my personal peaves, like when you used to bite yer fingernails but don't now, and want everyone to keep their goddamn hands outta their mouths??? I have never come right out and said this, not my way-subtle suggestions are my modus.....unless you are simply a fuckstick supreme....like, dare I say-JAPR, who cocksucker that he is, and I knew he was from the moment he began commenting inanely on a lot of serious shiet voted up here-I confronted him, but not like this(way less subtle a message for him, of course, he showed his ass and began a rant of passive-aggresive jibber jabber that simply proved I was at least partially right about him(he never stopped blindly hating after that point) A real asshole-

I am happy you have made it up there, believe me, more power to ya, I like the dynamic of active members mouths waggin', hell, I talk way too much to be so misunderstood-I have had quite enough tributes here, thank you, and suffice it to say, that because you now know EXACTLY what I dislike about anal-expulsion-I'd thank you to not cultivate the panty-knot you have concerning a cat fart video, with my handle onnit....M'kay duuuuude???The fucking search engines tell a lot to idiots, about other idiots.

I have NEVER discarded a diamond's post before-yer a first-I'll promise it'll be the last, because i suspect you are a gentleman-But fuck, talk about beating you with a hammer to make you understand a simple point!!! Thank God, now I don't have to vote at all when I see another dog fucking a stuffed animal video, posted by somebody who thinks it is siftworthy......

Problem is, folks from generations other than my own, seem to be a bit slow on the uptake.....bereft from public education's seduction of minds, to breed new generations of folks who can't seem to grasp meaning from the written word-

How do I know this to be true??? I am surrounded by it daily-the country is full of Cali-type, mentally damaged lackeys of the machine, and I am simply a "mean what I say, and say what I mean, motherfucker"-most folks today (mentally divergent) take someone with these sensibilities and attributes to be, like you said, know it alls, and what not. I am no more arrogant or sure of myself than anyone....i simply communicate along non-linear waves, and most folks are stuck in duality-


I apologize if you feel you are being bulllied or that I am on some "Blacklist Blankfist" mission....I ain't-I'm just happy to be able to screamloud and hope someone hears-I like you man, I really do-I approached you very early on regarding something on yer profile page.....yer good people-

Now......what to do about that fear-It's a mind-killer, baby-don't let it rob you of yer joy-I would be happy to go public with any beef you have, and attempt to justify my actions, should you feel the need.....otherwise, no ones gonna miss yer fucking cat fart, I'm sure some folks on youtube have some poignant comments, and a million views.

Love and Crisco, Brian