I thought you might appreciate this documentary.

Dub Echoes

from IMDB: The documentary "Dub Echoes" shows how the Jamaican invention called dub ended up influencing much of the music we hear today, from electronic music to hip-hop, transforming the studio in a musical instrument and giving way to all of sonic experiments.

>> ^osama1234:

I had a suspicious that unlike normal musicians, DJs dont really do much at their shows aside from press play a couple of times. It makes sense that its impossible to perform electronic music live as its all mixed/performed once in a program and that's it, rest of the time its press play.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadmau5#Comment_about_DJs

Deadmau5 talks DJs. His opinion and yours are similar as is mine.

Cubase, Logic, Digital Performer and Pro Tools are common, popular pro digital audio workstations. They all cost several hundreds of dollars and are fairly complicated to use, especially if you are new to digital audio. Cubase and Logic seem to be popular in the remix/electronic music scene. Digital Performer is popular among film composers. Pro Tools is a popular choice for TV/Film sound design and mixing. I use Digital Performer and like it a lot. It's slick and powerful.

There are cheaper, simpler options out there. I believe Apple's 'Garage Band' is to music editing, what 'iMovie' is to video editing, though I've never tried it.

When you are the electronic music snob like me, you tend to say things like, that's not trance, that's electro house...then at the end of the day it's the difference between taking a cock in your mouth or taking one in your ass.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
That's good stuff. Kind of trancey, which I enjoy, even if trance itself gets too gay at times. After more than half an hour I tend to find a cock in my mouth. I even downloaded WimAmp like you suggested. I haven't had WinAmp on any computer of mine in ages, but the Milkdrop2 visualization made it worthwhile. Should I try another salvia trip while watching it? Mmm, maybe not. I don't want the floor to turn into a hand that's trying to grab me again.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
That's some funky stuff. It's all over the place. He makes it work though.

Check this song out, I know you like some of that funky electronic stuff. I like to listen to this on winamp with the milkdrop2 visualizations. I recommend getting it if you don't have it already...

http://www1.zippyshare.com/v/64385136/file.html

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
I don't know if you like hip hop mashups with heavy sampling, but if you do then you might like this work from Girl Talk (Gregg Gillis):

http://www.illegal-art.net/allday/

It's a completely free download, so if you don't like it you've lost nothing but the time you spent listening to it. I know some people consider this type of music a novelty, but not all novelties are bad, are they? I wouldn't want to listen to it all day, but it's a nice diversion. It's amazing how many different artists he samples. Give it a try.

Daft Punk: the Will Smith of electronic music

I like electronic music, but I don't think I'd ever listen solely to electronic music with my kid. I think they need to listen to a lot of different music to formulate their own view of the art.

>> ^Gallowflak:

Super awesome.
As a composer/musician/smurf, I find that most of the music that might fall under "electronica" is the immediate pleasure; it's easy to assemble and instantly satisfying. It's also the easiest way to make money. "Classical" music is the ultimate compositional challenge and nothing engages me so fully as the process of creating it.
Still, I don't think that's a reason to frown on trance/electronica/whatever. Snobbery and elitism never gets anyone anywhere and if an individual finds reward and a creative outlet in electronic music, they deserve nothing but encouragement.
TLDR; elitism in the field of creativity sucks huge balls.


I desagree , to make a comercaily sucsessfull and noticable Dance track is just as hard as making anny other form of music if not harder due to the saturatoin of music in this ganra because of its accessablity.

I would argue its far esear to make money from "classical" music as you can produce classical music of a very low standerd (relative to productoin quality of whats out there) but people will haplily hand over mor cash for it because of the bullshit factor.

allso most musicians make money from doing sound tracks and acompanying music rather than music bought directly by the publick and fact is general trancy stuff is not realy wanted that much , over basic clasical style music or just general music ( the sort u hear in tv programs or documentries or acompanying games).


But as you say , in the end its not realy important so long as the end product is injoyable the complexity is not realy an issue.

Super awesome.

As a composer/musician/smurf, I find that most of the music that might fall under "electronica" is the immediate pleasure; it's easy to assemble and instantly satisfying. It's also the easiest way to make money. "Classical" music is the ultimate compositional challenge and nothing engages me so fully as the process of creating it.

Still, I don't think that's a reason to frown on trance/electronica/whatever. Snobbery and elitism never gets anyone anywhere and if an individual finds reward and a creative outlet in electronic music, they deserve nothing but encouragement.

TLDR; elitism in the field of creativity sucks huge balls.

I had a suspicious that unlike normal musicians, DJs dont really do much at their shows aside from press play a couple of times. It makes sense that its impossible to perform electronic music live as its all mixed/performed once in a program and that's it, rest of the time its press play.

http://videosift.com/video/Cold-Cut-Timber-fantastic-Electronic-music-and-video

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
'Electronica' is an antiquated 1990's marketing term for electronic music, much like 'Alternative' was a marketing term for rock, which has since been replaced by 'indie'. When I think of 'electronica', I think of more commercial electronic music. It just wouldn't feel right to invoke electronica on Aphex Twin or Squarepusher. 'Electronic music' is a timeless term that gives electronic musicians more respect and ties them to the larger history of electronic music, which dates back to the 1950's.

Electronic Music would also be more inclusive, because it would include early electronic music, like Stockhausen, Steve Reich, music concrete, the Theremin and other such awesomeness. Electro-Acoustic music (electronic music that uses live instruments) would also be covered by this term.

I'm not a purist or an overly protective electronic music fanboy, I'm just particular about music terminology. Don't even get me started on 'Classical Music'. (Classical music is a sub genre of concert music that ceased to exist hundred of years ago - think Mozart and Haydn.) Concert music, not classical. Electronic music, not electronica.

2 cents from a musician.

remind me to never argue music history with you..........ever.

as i have already told DFT.
i agree with him but i submit that electronic would be confusing for those who love engineering and new tech gadgets and electronic music,while more succinct and accurate would be two things:
too long a channel assignment
and
we already have a music channel.
the electronica channel is using a coined phrase to express the content.
so now instead of just having "music" we will also have "electronica" to express the sub genre.
and 100 points shall be awarded to DFT for mentioning the theremin.
and i shall now proceed in downloading DFT's entire music library.

and thanks for all your support guys.
since i was the first up on the roster for community voting on channels i was a bit trepidatious.

'Electronica' is an antiquated 1990's marketing term for electronic music, much like 'Alternative' was a marketing term for rock, which has since been replaced by 'indie'. When I think of 'electronica', I think of more commercial electronic music. It just wouldn't feel right to invoke electronica on Aphex Twin or Squarepusher. 'Electronic music' is a timeless term that gives electronic musicians more respect and ties them to the larger history of electronic music, which dates back to the 1950's.

Electronic Music would also be more inclusive, because it would include early electronic music, like Stockhausen, Steve Reich, music concrete, the Theremin and other such awesomeness. Electro-Acoustic music (electronic music that uses live instruments) would also be covered by this term.

I'm not a purist or an overly protective electronic music fanboy, I'm just particular about music terminology. Don't even get me started on 'Classical Music'. (Classical music is a sub genre of concert music that ceased to exist hundred of years ago - think Mozart and Haydn.) Concert music, not classical. Electronic music, not electronica.

2 cents from a musician.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
For elitist musician reasons, I'd prefer 'Electronic Music' as the title.

purist..
im teasin.you are correct but we have a music channel.
so the way i see it channel assignment will have both..hence electronica music.with electronica being the sub genre,like rock and roll music.
i prefer electronica over just electronic due to the fact the former is more inclusive and less rigid while the latter is very exact in its definition and would leave out many styles which may employ organic instruments.
electronica is the hybrid of the two..at least thats what i was told..or told myself..in any case i am just a music lover who has always been enthralled by those who can create music.
i have many musician friends who have an irrational hatred of electronic music.i understand their point of view but i cannot dismiss any form of creation..even if i personally don't care for it,i will still admire that creative force.
i am still waiting to hear some of YOUR music my friend..
i am sure it will be amazing.
thanks for voting bud.
namaste.

For elitist musician reasons, I'd prefer 'Electronic Music' as the title.