I don't disagree about the snooping since 2001. As far as the koch brothers and the Tea Party, you don't know what the fuck your talking about.

They just want the Constitution follow or at least print current laws back towards it.

Instead of watching biased Democratic sucking media, go to an actual event .

They are not raciest, or the desire to go back to slavery as the media puts forth. . That's Bullshit. B.W.Y. the slavery shit and the KKK was the Democrat south doing its thing, not Republicans. MLK was Republican.


Today the Republican party is nothing more than a cheap intimation of the Democrat party. They will never win fighting that way. The Tea Party is they way to go.


FYI a little history ... Since you had a public education and hence only learned skewed left leaning revised history...


http://www.humanevents.com/2006/08/16/why-martin-luther-king-was-republican/

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It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S’s: slavery, secession, segregation and now socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950s and 1960s.

During the civil rights era of the 1960s, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court, which resulted in the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman’s issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.

Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil Rights Act... And after he became President, Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph, who was a black Republican.

The Democrats were loosing the slavery battle and civil rights were breaking through and JFK/Johnson the

Given the circumstances of that era, it is understandable why Dr. King was a Republican. It was the Republicans who fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans passed the civil rights laws of the 1860s, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867 that was designed to establish a new government system in the Democrat-controlled South, one that was fair to blacks. Republicans also started the NAACP and affirmative action with Republican President Richard Nixon’s 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher) that set the nation’s fist goals and timetables. Although affirmative action now has been turned by the Democrats into an unfair quota system, affirmative action was begun by Nixon to counter the harm caused to blacks when Democrat President Woodrow Wilson in 1912 kicked all of the blacks out of federal government jobs.

Few black Americans know that it was Republicans who founded the Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Unknown also is the fact that Republican Sen. Everett Dirksen from Illinois was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964 and 1965. Not mentioned in recent media stories about extension of the 1965 Voting Rights Act is the fact that Dirksen wrote the language for the bill. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing. President Lyndon Johnson could not have achieved passage of civil rights legislation without the support of Republicans."


Democrats are still in the slavery business. They just use the welfare system to keep the poor poor and use the shallow promise of If you vote Democrat we will keep giving you a little cheese.

The Democrat party has been the most destructive political party to date.

I believe that by then the GOP would be something else; just like it was something else under Eisenhower and Lincoln. We are all moving forward; just at different paces. After all, we are just rivals in our way of thinking, not enemies. If for example, you get it and others don't so quickly, you shouldn't ridicule them for not jumping on your bandwagon so quickly. As long as we all have good intentions, the details will get sorted out with time.

>> ^st0nedeye:

In terms of the national presidential election, without major structural changes to the GOP they are finished.
Texas.
In 2020 to 2024, based on changing demographics, it will become blue. If/when it does, the GOP will lose 50+ electoral votes, and lose any chance to win a presidential race.

>> ^MonkeySpank:
I'd give the Republican party another 2 terms before it morphs into something else; obviously, extreme-right is not the answer, especially with a larger segment of the new voting population leaning center. You can see it today; Mitt cannot have a change unless he pretends he's a centrist. This not only goes for the general populace, but also for the republican registered voters themselves. It's no surprise Santorum didn't win the primaries. History books will look back at this era and reflect on the neo-conservative movement and its negative effect on American politics.
The great thing about the internet is that every video, document, public forum comment, and article can be stored permanently. Many people are on the wrong side of history, and their offspring will find that out.

Yeah like... Eisenhower?

>> ^criticalthud:

hope and change will have new meaning:
thanks for changing our fundamental rights. i hope i get out of prison some day.
at this point i would actually consider voting for a republican, in the hope that things would become bad enough that in 4 years we might actually get a real progressive in office.
once again the"middle" has been pushed to the far right, and the far right is now just fucking insane.
and leaves the american people with the typical - pick-the-lesser-evil type of decision.


I think this has shown us right, left distinctions are meaningless; mere distractions created by our "betters" to create a impetus of infighting and faction. Eisenhower warned of this decades ago, and is now being fully realized. The republic stands on the brink, I am doubtful of a peaceful resolution and fully expect an American line of Cesar's to come about.

@NetRunner

I don't really believe the "blackmail" theory. It just speaks to how sudden and drastic his about-face seemed to me. I mean, this guy had a HUGE progressive mandate when he got elected. Landslide victory, both Houses, 60-40 in the Senate (although sabotaged by "blueblood" prags). Then, Obama chastising the Repugs that "elections have consequences", and the optimistically prescient Nobel Peace Prize. Finally, some change I can believe in! Go, Obama, go!

And then... he just started caving. Offering compromises when compromises weren't called for or necessary in my view. And then failing to learn very quickly, if at all, that the opposition wasn't interested in anything but opposition. I agree that their "personal courtesy" was truly "partisan posturing", and he may has gotten suckered to a point.

Maybe part of the problem is that he has surrounded himself with people that have never shared his vision. Maybe this is some brilliant plan to expose the Republicans and the system for what it is so he has the support to proffer true progressive change in a second term, but I don't think so.

You can point to the list of his many accomplishments and tell me I'm wrong, but the big picture in this country hasn't changed. His victories are little more than election year bullet points. Very little has changed overall. Health care and financial reforms are a joke. Corporations are still raping this country's middle class by sending jobs and cash overseas while paying very little or no taxes. Unions, the very fucking organizations that created the middle class and kept it strong, are legally and financially weaker and have lower participation than ever. Environmental protections are being stripped at alarming rates, the country's infrastructure continues to crumble, students and teachers alike are being hamstrung by budget cuts, 1 in 50 Americans are in prison or on probation, and although we were walking on the fucking moon forty years ago, we currently have to rent space on Russian rockets just to get American astronauts to low earth orbit. Yeah, we have no money for roads, bridges, schools, health care, or Orion spacecraft, but we spend (borrow) many times that needed to fund these things for three useless wars and an entire Empire of hundreds of bases around the world. I'll spare you the Eisenhower reference.

Something fundamental has to change in this country, and I think that any change that matters is going to have to be HUGE change, even revolutionary.

I see a completely different Obama than the one I supported in 2008. Rhetoric that you want to hear is still just rhetoric. Palliatives for the disenchanted, and dogma for those who should be. Yeah, I know it's "yes, we can", not "yes, he can". That's what OWS is all about. Obama failed. OWS is Plan B.

I hope I'm absolutely wrong. I hope he does well and effects positive, substantive change. Unfortunately, I'll be voting for him not because I think "he can", rather, as the best of a bad lot.

Related: http://videosift.com/video/Eisenhower-warns-of-the-military-industrial-complex

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible, and they are stupid."

- Dwight D Eisenhower 8 November 1954

Did he just throw the Eisenhower coffee mug into the crowd?

Eisenhower called it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

>> ^entr0py:

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:
This is more a problem of big government than big business though, right, or did I miss something?

To me it seems like these are examples of reckless attempts to make government smaller by outsourcing basic services to contractors. Jails and public schools are not extravagant, they are absolutely essential services that citizens expect of any developed nation.
Sometimes privatization does produce a savings for the government. But usually at the expense of less accountability, lower quality of service, and the creation of fewer good jobs. Other times it costs taxpayers more, and only serves to line the pockets politicians and contractors. I'd say the US hiring of mercenary outfits to fight in our wars falls in that later category.


I would agree mostly, but only because government doesn't have a "market place" like we do. They make monolithic decisions mired in layers of politics instead of personal expectations, taste, and past experience (and don't forget price!). If you, I, or my town makes a bad decision, we reap the results and are in a better position to rectify than some people thousands of miles away ( I don't think the people in New Orleans will ever let the funding for the levies dry up again, even if some federal bill doesn't pass ). To me, this video highlights a real danger, and that is increased governmental responsibility leads the the creation of mega corporations to manage the affairs of large government responsibility. A self reinforcing problem that is very dangerous indeed. This is the problem that many have seen from the start of this country, and Eisenhower reminded us of only 50(god I'm getting old) 60 years ago, the industrial military complex. This issue is part and parcel with large, federal, central banking as well...it's a dance that we haven't seen the end of yet.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Military Industrial Complex, Eisenhower, to, Obama' to 'Military Industrial Complex, war, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Truman, Reagan, Bush, Obama' - edited by xxovercastxx

Operation Northwoods -wiki

Eisenhowers Farewell Address -video

Joe Rogan talks about Wikileaks -video

>> ^quantumushroom:

Eisenhower -- lost to history
JFK -- low taxes, strong national defense. Would be a Republican today.
Nixon -- had the grace to step down. Did not authorize or know about Watergate break-in.
Ford -- RINO who tripped alot.
Carter -- Worst President until You Know Who.
Reagan -- Pride returns to America. Economic boom. Enemies given beat down. Made left look like fools.
Bush 41 -- almost won Iraq War, then didn't. Wimp taxocrats rolled over. "No new taxes." Crucified by pre-internet media/entertainment complex. Now heralded by liberals as he is harmless.
Bill Clinton -- convicted felon. Genuinely cares as shown by million-dollar speaking engagements and cheating on wife. Also, forced himself on women and if they didn't comply, had them fired. I thought liberals protected and cared about the "little guy". Filth only cared about his Little Guy.
Bush 43-- RINO aka "halfservative" who rubber-stamped all spending but still a cause célèbre of liberal apoplexy to this day
Obama -- You Know Who. Clueless, corupt community organizer fools the fools: funny movie premise, not funny in reality.


ROTFL! That's some funny shit.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Eisenhower -- lost to history
JFK -- low taxes, strong national defense. Would be a Republican today.
Nixon -- had the grace to step down. Did not authorize or know about Watergate break-in.
Ford -- RINO who tripped alot.
Carter -- Worst President until You Know Who.
Reagan -- Pride returns to America. Economic boom. Enemies given beat down. Made left look like fools.
Bush 41 -- almost won Iraq War, then didn't. Wimp taxocrats rolled over. "No new taxes." Crucified by pre-internet media/entertainment complex. Now heralded by liberals as he is harmless.
Bill Clinton -- convicted felon. Genuinely cares as shown by million-dollar speaking engagements and cheating on wife. Also, forced himself on women and if they didn't comply, had them fired. I thought liberals protected and cared about the "little guy". Filth only cared about his Little Guy.
Bush 43-- RINO aka "halfservative" who rubber-stamped all spending but still a cause célèbre of liberal apoplexy to this day
Obama -- You Know Who. Clueless, corupt community organizer fools the fools: funny movie premise, not funny in reality.


You're provably wrong:
JFK -- The top income tax rate was 91% during his entire term. That's higher taxation than even the left wing of the Democratic Party would propose nowadays: http://www.truthandpolitics.org/top-rates.php
Nixon -- Listen to his tapes, for fuck's sake. He was a psychopathic thug with no respect for the law.
Reagan -- Took credit for things that had nothing to do with him, i.e. the Soviet Union collapsing under its own shitty policies.
Clinton -- For debunking the felony conviction nonsense, check http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/felon.asp

QM,
If we put a NOT chip in your keyboard, your statements will be absolutely right all the time.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Eisenhower -- lost to history
JFK -- low taxes, strong national defense. Would be a Republican today.
Nixon -- had the grace to step down. Did not authorize or know about Watergate break-in.
Ford -- RINO who tripped alot.
Carter -- Worst President until You Know Who.
Reagan -- Pride returns to America. Economic boom. Enemies given beat down. Made left look like fools.
Bush 41 -- almost won Iraq War, then didn't. Wimp taxocrats rolled over. "No new taxes." Crucified by pre-internet media/entertainment complex. Now heralded by liberals as he is harmless.
Bill Clinton -- convicted felon. Genuinely cares as shown by million-dollar speaking engagements and cheating on wife. Also, forced himself on women and if they didn't comply, had them fired. I thought liberals protected and cared about the "little guy". Filth only cared about his Little Guy.
Bush 43-- RINO aka "halfservative" who rubber-stamped all spending but still a cause célèbre of liberal apoplexy to this day
Obama -- You Know Who. Clueless, corupt community organizer fools the fools: funny movie premise, not funny in reality.