>> ^gwiz665:

Given a limited scope you can absolutely prove a negative. "There are no muslims in congress" is provable. "There is no God in the United States" is also provable.
The problem is that if you have an unlimited scope, then it becomes impossible.
"There are no fairies in my basement."
vs.
"There are no fairies."


As already pointed out, by *definition* you can't prove a negative.
As per your other threads shinyblurry, we can argue semantics all day so it's kind of pointless, but I'm going to anyway, because it's actually at the nub of the statement "you can't prove a negative".
I've also used an online dictionary you've sited in your other posts.

prove/pro͞ov/Verb
1. Demonstrate the truth or existence of (something) by evidence or argument.
2. Demonstrate by evidence or argument (someone or something) to be.

Note the use of the affirmative "the existence" / "to be". There is no scope for a negative here.

Also it's worth pointing out the etymology of the word "proof". It comes from the Latin "probare" meaning "to test". So it you've got proof of god's existence, it's got to be testable. Similarly if I want to "prove" there is no god I need to formulate a test that will give a definitive result.

Now, moving away from semantics....

So yeah, he's using a linguistic trick to try and recontextualize the statement "you can't prove a negative". That statement is generally used as a shorthand in an argument not only as a reference to the above definition, but also as a more general indication of the vast impracticality of proving a blanket negative statement such as "there is no god". In that context it is never meant as an absolute.

By adding a very restricted location, as William Lane Craig has in the video above, a negative statement of course becomes provable. I don't think any atheist would disagree that the statement "there are no coins in my pocket" could be proven simply by looking in my pocket.

For example - If as an atheist I was to say "there is no such object as the holy grail in existence" in order to prove it I would then have to trawl through every every steet, house, closet, drawer, toilet cistern, dessert, mountaintop, quarry pit, top secret inaccessible military bunker in the world, then undertake extensive excavation all the way to the earths molten core.

At his stage a believer could say "Well I have just had a personal revelation from God who spoke directly to me and told me that the grail is being kept safe underneath the icy surface of Jupiter's 6th moon Europa"

So after I've convinced NASA to undertake "The Program for the Recovery of Christs Holy Grail from Under the Surface of Jupiter's 6th Moon Europa" I'm told by the believer that they've had another personal message received directly from god that he was angry at being tested, and so has moved the grail to a divine and indestructible vault at the heart of the distant sun Omicron Beta....

However, if I make the statement - "there is no such object as the holy grail in existence in my desk drawer" - I just have to open the drawer to look and the statement can be proven.

And the above examples are with definite physical objects. Think how impossible it is to prove the statement "there is no god" when the idea of how god is defined is so widely and radically disputed depending on what religion you subscribe to, and when almost every individual within each of these religions will have their own definition of what god is.

I bet that asshole goes to a fine dining restaurant and has dessert with an assload of creme fresh and doesn't understand that he's a hypocrit.

>> ^arvana:

The half-life of the transverse waves propagated from that slap indicate a damping factor of: FIRM.


You said exactly what I was going to post! So, instead...

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*sift, definition below

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noun. sift·ed, sift·ing, sifts, spelunking
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Heeeee-fucking-larious. The Michael Cera one is still my favorite, but that was fantastic.

Bruce needs to make some awesome movies again. The Fifth Element 2 please, followed by Unbreakable 2 for dessert.

>> ^jimnms:

I think I put on 10 lbs. just watching that.

-and burn another 10 wondering why anyone would want to eat it-Nastray!

Don't worry, there is no way in hell he got away with not giving her dessert in the end. She would have cried for hours otherwise, and no father in his right mind prefers a dessert over avoiding hours of child wailing.

What did the pig put on his wound?

Oinkment.


From the string cheese wrapper:


How did the chicken keep the beat?

With his drumsticks!



What's a cat's favorite dessert?

Mice cream.

I don't want to put words in blancos mouth (goodness knows what else has been in there), but I believe the major catalyst for blankfist's politics is anger at paying taxes. Government and democracy is the major focus of his ire. Our political feud is a years-long battle that goes far beyond the subject matter of this video.

He believes the free market is a benevolent, intelligent, almost supernatural force that somehow is able to right all wrongs. Oppressive sweatshops are put out of business by angry citizens who stop buying their products or open their own competing businesses. I've never seen any evidence to suggest the market works like this. To me, it seems to reward low prices at any cost, be it human rights, environmental carnage, livable wages, the exploitation of the 3rd world, squandered resources or otherwise.

I believe the concept of 'the free market' was created to justify greed, selfishness, gross inequity and to absolve the wealthy and big business of all personal responsibility for the part they play in this world. Those with wealth earned it with hard work and ingenuity (or more likely inherited it from their parents); those without are lazy bums who are receiving just desserts for their lack of ambition (or more likely inherited it from their parents). If only those lowly wage slaves would pick themselves up by their bootstraps, they could be the next Bill Gates.

We are pretty much together in our disgust for corporations, but what constitutes an oppressive work environment differs greatly between the two of us.

I'm doing the atkins thing too, off and on.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
I'm glad you liked it, my socialist friend.

I hear peanut butter makes for a great addition. The banana ice cream really is amazing. And isn't the consistency perfect? The sea salt/honey is key. It's also healthier than ice cream. I'm on Atkins right now, so "healthier" is relative. Usually I eat low fat meats (fish + chicken) and plenty of green veggies, but today I splurged with a bunless King Triple from Fatburger. 24 oz of meat. Goddamn!

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Great dessert. Tastes quite a bit like real ice cream, it even gave me a brain freeze. That salt/honey combo is some kind of wicked sorcery. I tried a little bit with peanut butter too, which was also pretty boss. I'll be making that again.

I'm glad you liked it, my socialist friend.

I hear peanut butter makes for a great addition. The banana ice cream really is amazing. And isn't the consistency perfect? The sea salt/honey is key. It's also healthier than ice cream. I'm on Atkins right now, so "healthier" is relative. Usually I eat low fat meats (fish + chicken) and plenty of green veggies, but today I splurged with a bunless King Triple from Fatburger. 24 oz of meat. Goddamn!

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
Great dessert. Tastes quite a bit like real ice cream, it even gave me a brain freeze. That salt/honey combo is some kind of wicked sorcery. I tried a little bit with peanut butter too, which was also pretty boss. I'll be making that again.

Great dessert. Tastes quite a bit like real ice cream, it even gave me a brain freeze. That salt/honey combo is some kind of wicked sorcery. I tried a little bit with peanut butter too, which was also pretty boss. I'll be making that again.

The answer is...what's for dessert?

After watching far too many episodes of Kitchen Nightmares I think that them worrying over a $16 will now be the least of this pubs concern. They should have just comped the tip after taking the bill and now they will likely lose far more in negative publicity.

So you take their money anyways and THEN call the police? Sorry, dick move on their part. By the way, I've worked for small business before and I know how it is. You win customers by providing good service, and lose customers by providing shit service. Simple, end of story.

Hell, I once had a dining experience that would make Mr. Pink want to shoot up the entire resturant and without me asking the manager not only comped the meal but also offered free desserts on top of it. This is how you get people to keep coming back despite the fact you just lost money in the short term.

>> ^sineral:
There's no evidence in this video that the girl did anything wrong. At the very start of the video it looks like she's slapping a fly on the horse--people with horses do that. Then it looks like she's trying to get the horse to back up--also something that people with horses occasionally want them to do. Just because an animal attacks a person doesn't mean the person did anything wrong; horses in particular can be moody and some of them just like to bite. Biting her like it did, the horse could have caused serious injury to her neck or head.
Last time I checked, life was not a sporting event, and the concerns of humans outweighed the concerns of animals. Cheering when an animal mauls a human(a child in this case even!) is ignorant and disgusting.


Oh mr. indignant. Just because you think the girl did nothing doesn't mean she did nothing! You enjoy getting outraged at people, i can tell.

If you are small, you should be extra careful to treat large powerful animals with respect. Something this girl's parents should have taught her. Her hit, while perhaps 'to get a fly' really didn't need to be so hard. I'd be pretty annoyed if someone hit me like that to get a fly on my back. Her push was directly onto the horse's neck which as we all know is a very sensitive area for all living animals because it houses the throat and the brain's blood supply, and it genuinely looked to me like the horse was reacting to that aggression towards its own throat.

You got indignant and over compensated with your prissy little outburst reaction, and that's just as foolish as cheering when you may not know the full story. You're right. Life is not a sporting event. And when a human considers itself so aloof to the situation of the animals which they tame, when a human underestimates and mistreats the animal, the animal is going to react, and you have no right to complain - because life's not a sporting event, you fucked up and ate the consequences. Our concerns outweigh theirs, but that's no reason to mistreat them.

Looks to me like just desserts for the little girl.

what do you mean "why?"
i like it whenever steretypes are suspended and normal human decency steps in
extra dessert for everyone