I thought Colbert probably just forgot him on the shelf of his old show.

Too bad the self appointed cheer leaders of the cultural elite like Colbert did nothing but ridicule Sanders when it counted.
They were worried they would have to pay more in taxes under a Sanders administration and not shy about saying so.
Colbert used to be funny now he simply comes off as a snob.
You have no one to blame but yourselves for Trump being elected.

Colbert 2020.

If you're going to keep electing entertainers you could do (have done) a lot worse.

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Yeah Colbert seems to really be going after him. Which I like, since it appears everyone in the news media is too afraid of confronting him and losing ratings.

That... was fucking awesome.

Colbert really isn't pulling any punches here. *quality burn

Suck his balls, Trump.... suck 'em.

I saw a taping of the Colbert show. I was astounded by how much fun they were live.

I can't stand them on tv either.

I don't know if there's something wrong with me or what, but to me her post makes sense. It's not eloquent, it's not funny, and it's certainly not smart, but it does make sense. She's said worse. It's only when Colbert reads it this way that it seems insane, which is why I guess the humor doesn't really work for me.

Isn't it so much more fun to actually exchange information and points of view, rather than getting snotty? I love it.

Maybe we are talking a bit at cross purposes. (Like, that has never happened before on teh intertubes, right?)

I try not to "re-edit" or "re-imagine" videos. I'm sure I do it -- I often do things that I later complain that other people do. This comment goes back more to your first response to me, however it applies to this comment, too. The idea that the video would be better if it this'd, or that'd, or it fails to do this other thing that it wasn't even trying to do. The concept of being conscious of "the bigger picture" is what I am addressing here.

However, isn't it just YOUR vision of what the bigger picture is that you say is missing? Because for me, I see a bigger picture being addressed quite nicely -- the vision that the video maker set out to address.

I wonder if the nebulous nature of your instinctive dislike to this video is indeed EXACTLY what the video maker was setting out to illuminate? Or rather, decided to be not obsequious to? Like women have been taught to be obsequious for eons?

I notice that you are sure that your difficult-to-describe instinctive reactions are "correct." What if it is actually your own internalized and unexamined sexism? I know you say thunderfoot bugs you, too. I also know that all my impassioned information about how women across cultures and time are expected to "tone it down" wasn't addressed in your response to me.

That is the elephant in the room here, as far as I am concerned. Sure, "condescension" is gender neutral. The whole video, though, is about sexism and the unconscious ways that it leaks out. I don't see you addressing that in your response -- except maybe, MAYBE, it is this nebulous and difficult thing you are struggling to understand and maybe, MAYBE, it needs to be examined and understood.

So maybe look at your feelings through that prism?

I say this as someone who has their own internalized sexism (towards men and women both) that I am constantly trying to identify and own and uproot. Racism, too. I so want to be the person who, like Stephen Colbert of old, who doesn't see race. And yet I do and I am mortified by it and I try to push through that lizard brain instinct and the training of my youth.

Something to think about maybe?

Or not. Maybe it just is as simple as you don't like the humor in the video, and I do. There are differences in taste, after all.

I suspect, though, that it is much more complex than that -- as you said, "maybe I'm going into it with the notion that I'm going to be offended anyway."

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Pretty weak comedy there.

If they wanted someone to mock Trump, they should have asked Colbert or Sam Bee.

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