A Pakistani cleric has issued a fatwa against Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari for flirting with US Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

The Maulana said that President Zardari's indecent gestures, filthy remarks and repeated praise of a non-Muslim lady wearing a short skirt is not only un-Islamic but also unbecoming of a head of state of a Muslim country.

He said that the manner in which Zardari shook hands with Sarah Palin and expressed his deep desire to hug her is intolerable and shameful.

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Fuck Clerics in the Army.

They aren't armed, they can't watch a corner, they wouldn't shoot nobody and yet the troop has to baby sit their asses and haul extra food and supplies for them.

Never mind the hypocrisy of religious service before killing other people.

>> ^Zonbie:
>> ^Payback:
I always thought clerics weren't allowed to use weapons... or is that chain mail? I can never remember.

Clerics cannot wear metal armour. hehe, I am playing D&D Tactics
(Shuffles off into dark corner)


They can't use bladed weapons.
(stands proudly)

>> ^Payback:
I always thought clerics weren't allowed to use weapons... or is that chain mail? I can never remember.


Clerics cannot wear metal armour. hehe, I am playing D&D Tactics
(Shuffles off into dark corner)

I always thought clerics weren't allowed to use weapons... or is that chain mail? I can never remember.

I love the way he pronounces kufir, he really makes it sound like kaffer. Thanks, totally unknown Egyptian cleric, for reminding the world that not all the offensive and racist words in South Africa originate from the Dutch language ;-).

Oh really Evangelicals didn't support a current war against the Axis Of Evil? You never heard Jerry Fallow or Pat Robertson speaking out against striking against the Ayerabs? George Bush had God tell him to go to war, he was on a mission from Gawwwd.

Religious involvement in geopolitical events is all a matter of perspective.

With regards to religious extremism in Europe ha! That's less to do with religion then with anti-reactionary attitude against immigrants who are coming into the nation. Every anti western cleric has been deported from the UK. You know what else you got after 7/11 British Government encroachments on personal freedoms, go near any US airfield, you will be arrested, protest near parliament, you will be arrested. Don't worry about them they got a police state there, CCTV all over the cities that magically took only 3 photos of the 7/11 bombers. Muslims actually have cloaking technology.

You don't see the governments complaining, I wonder why it is? Oh surely they have been brainwashed by Wizards of Islam. The reason they don't interfere is because Europe is a declining population growth, they need labor to do the jobs Europeans don't want to do, just like in the States. Welcome to capitalism and labor mobility.

I love how you want to say that world events are somehow driven by people's wishes, beliefs and feelings. No, its all about money. Labor mobility is a big plus for old Europe. That's why you don't see these states implement massive immigration restrictions, which they would do overnight. Instead we are seeing the implementation of the European Blue Card.

You fail to see the complexity of world events and choose just a narrow view of clearly these people are out to kill everyone. Also don't you happen people are pissed? Western world has invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, both nations are still worse off. Both invasions has pushed massive refugees into other states. Palestinians are still getting killed as are civilians in both conflict zones. You know that US Forces up until the Battle of Haditha looked at civilian casualties as normal events in a time of war?

ElJardinero, wow, really Islams chop people hands off in all Islamic states? I should really tell people in Turkey, Indonesia, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain, Yemen, Egypt. That's Saudi Arabia my friend, you know the nation that is supported by the Democratic states of UK and USA, the bestests of friends of the Western Worldz! You know they wanted to lash a woman for getting raped? Who kept mum on that? The US government whose own human rights charter KSA has been breaking year on year.

Religion as I say again is a apparatus of control in both Iran and Saudi Arabia, designed to keep an elite in power through religious terrorism. Islam has nothing to do with it, its simply a tool of power in the same way Catholicism, Protestant and many other faiths are used to justify killing human beings. The Ireland conflict and the war in Bosnia was based around religion, you people seem to forget that. Its just history repeating.

But go ahead. I live in Kuwait and we make alot of money feeding and supplying the US armed forces. I feel fucking sorry for the young men getting killed there fighting a war that has no aim.

Of course I don't, but you know I just happen to live in the Middle East the Eye of the Storm, the gates of Jihad, clearly I been manipulated and turned to the cause of Allah and am swimming across the Atlantic to conquer and subjugation your women.

You like MermiTV which covers the Middle East like Fox News covers the news in the US. It cherry picks things that would incite the largest amount of fear. Yet take any US city and attend any Evangelical worship and you will see the same stupid shit being recited. I know where MermiTV gets its news because I happen to see all this on a daily basis and you know what people know its retarded, Islamic clerics are like any other religious representative they will just say whatever they fuck encites the most fear and hatred to get support for themselves, then they go in the back and rape small boys and drink Gin.

Of course the Times Online and The Telegraph, oh course they will claim that OMFG the muslims are out to kill you. You know what? Those are the same news sources that told us that OMFG SADDAM HAS CAPABILITY TO NUKE US BACK TO HELL.

Jokes on you.

>> ^Farhad2000:
The Islamic hordes will roll over the Western world making your women castrate themselves, make you attend Mosques and bend down to the will of Allah. Then they will eat your babies too. Maybe push your grandmother down a flight of stairs.
Am sorry I can't take this bullshit seriously anymore.


Yeah there's probably nothing to worry about... Islam is the 2nd religion in Europe and some of the most influential Muslim clerics in the world clearly state they'd like to see Islam conquer the continent. A third of BRITISH Muslim students support killing in the name of their faith and Sharia law in the UK is supported by almost half of UK Muslims.

Thanks for letting us now this isn't something we have to even consider as worrisome Farhad.

Unfortunately for your argument, it's pretty clear that the short-lived Cult of Reason was purely a reaction against the nobility that dominated the Catholic Church in France at the time

It was explicitly atheistic, I don't know how much more you can want. They swept away religion, replaced it with atheism, and killed the clerics in the name of reason. This secular nature was, in my mind, the most important difference between the American and French revolutions; besides this critical component, they stemmed from Enlightenment philosophy.

So if you want to argue about who has killed more people throughout history, religion or atheism, it's pretty clear which one has enabled more massacres.

We're talking atheism, here, right?

Jake here, 27 this week, Pennsylvania.
working on my Ph.D. in Genetics studying Herpes Simplex Virus 1. About two years to go, then post-doc work, then hopefully teaching at a small college or working for the CDC in the field/over-seas. No ropes tying me down right now except my will to finish this whole grad school thing.

I like WoW and some other games. Just bought and finished Portal in the last 2 hours and loved it. I tend to read Sci-Fi and Fantasy mostly... other-worldly stuff, escapism in other words. (Currently reading: The Chronicles of Amber, The song of Albion, Paradise Lost, Why I am a Christian, Romans.) I LOVE scrabble and play it online regularly. http://www.isc.ro/ I like fishing/golfing/martial arts/

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I get one social night a week most weeks and I go to a local pub/restaurant Wednesday night with a group of good friends for "trivia night." We almost always win. Our trivia guy is obsessed with the Peanuts cartoons.

I'm moderate, conservative, libertarian. I think right wingers are too afraid of change...and a tad too cold and impractical. I think left wingers are more DEgressive than they are PROgressive...and a tad too whiny and naive. I think our government is far too large, too nosey, too expensive, and should declassify about 90% of all that crap they have stored away in some salt mine somewhere. Also, Block Votes are bullshit.

I'm Christian...made the real choice in college. I'm not Catholic, but I don't think they're unsaved. I respect Judaism and Israel most of the time. I respect my Islamic friends, but not radical, imperialistic clerics and their followers. I have Buddhist and Hindu friends as well, but they hardly practice.

(Estimates)
Deaths caused by war so far this year (Since Jan 1, 2008): 76,345
Abortions so far this year: 20,534,725
Births so far this year: 59,873,488
!!!

I chose this new avatar because I spend 90% of my waking hours around academics and "thinkers" who don't do much else in life and really don't get out enough.

Final thought: The internet needs a new meme STAT.

Brave and articulate woman, I could never make that plea like she did, I would get angry at those dark ages clerics.

Iran did once free itself from the control of religion but thanks to the US, it did not last.

What about falwell, hagee, robertson, the pope, etc?

The pope's anti-contraception activism has lead to quite a lot of poverty and suffering. The nuts in christianity are more like 30% than 0.1%. The same goes for Islam. You have high-ranking clerics issuing death warrant fatwas over books and cartoons (such as the Iranian head of state, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has wide support among Iranian Muslims still living in Iran and much less support among exiles and emigres)

Needs some * Femme. Gotta love the cleric's argument, men have no self control therefor we need to treat women like shit so we won't be tempted.

not a dupe... it just has a small excerpt of that.

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