Godsmack is how the wind feels
On the face of Mike Winfield
On his way home from the bar where he works
Nights - the worst nights, don't nobody tip right
And between the marriage offers and the fist fights
And if another mother fucker touch his wrist trying to pull him in to whisper
He ain't making it to midnight
Don't they know he got a lighter in his pocket
A matchbook in his sock and a block full of charred skeletons closeted begging to get out
He paused cause he's scared of airing out the thoughts
He can taste it in his mouth the sulfur and bitter carbon
Hearing all the burning bodies shout but no
That was a full lifetime ago and nobody ever has to know
He has never told well except Ronald
But that don't count he was sweet and exactly what he needed him to be at the time
Wine and candlelight and nice texts at lunchtime
Why had he not called Ron back
Guess there just wasn't a spark, ha!
No, no, musn't joke about these things
Wouldn't want to disappoint Doc Clark
So many hours on the couch
So many buried memories that take so many tears to get them out
Water hadn't never been a friend
Hold up - where had he seen that car before
Blue Acura dent on the left rear fender
Back again the sense of
Deja Vu
Strange things you
Never shake when you wake up in recovery
But suddenly noticing ash is covering his head cause it's raining from the sky
Dials home on his cell phone and gets no reply
What the fuck?
Where is the babysitter that he overpays
Body takes over and brain becomes disengaged
Michael is running his house is three blocks away
Adrenaline compensating for change in age
Since the last time that he ran it god dammit
Mike knows he gotta get home fast as he can
Looks up in the sky, glow's familiar
Knows those families died with similar
Awnings and on and on he keeps going
Hits the corner just as he hears the explosion
Screams come from the house, "Did you get them out?"
Mike asking the crowd that has gathered 'round
Tears running down his face
There's that familiar taste
He wishes it would take him to another place
Son and his baby girl in his home and he can't believe that it's gone in a cloud of smoke
And he's choking and running forward and hoping against hope that he might find them alive and well
When he knows the results too well and he knows that fooled himself
And he keeps walking towards the house rather what house is still left
No intention of stopping letting the smoke take his breath
Some strong arm rocks him aside Mike falls to the ground and cries
Why won't you just let me die
Why won't you just let me die

That's pretty sick *promote

Your power is still out after all this time?? Forget what I said yesterday about it being fun...finding your way around by candlelight would get really annoying after a couple of hours.

My pleasure!! I thought it would speak to your inner attention whore. It is nice to be able to personalize your profile and stand out a bit. Haha, yeah, I can relate to the "invalid" color selections, and did you notice that they look a lot different when choosing them than how they display on your profile? It takes a bit to get the colors just right. Most of all though, I was hoping it would entice you to post more videos, and now that I have your oath, you can't back down. By the way, did you know that you can currently post 6 videos at a time? You can rule the sift with all those slots.

You didn't post that Aubrey Plaza one!!! What were you thinking?? If in doubt, post it. That's my motto. You can always *kill or *discard it later if it doesn't seem popular or if you change your mind about it.

Flying Spaghetti Monster! Ha! I was leaning towards that one. I was almost even thinking about betting those 2 shillings you gave me on that guess, but in case I was wrong, I didn't want to part with them. But do I really want to be touched by his noodly appendages? Hmmm...

Awwwwwww mannnnnnn, this video is blocked in Canada too!! This is one of the most awesome songs of all time though and I even have this one already so all I need to do is *add to playlist*. Queen is one of my all-time favorite bands and Bohemian Rhapsody is my favorite of their songs. I also really like "We Will Rock You", "Under Pressure" and "Somebody to Love". I'm on youtube now listening to all 4 of those Queen songs.

Seeing as I'm listening to them...I might as well attach them and spam your pretty profile page.

@blankfist I'll be honest, I haven't been very careful not to. I will be from now on if you would just respond to the substance of what has been posted. As you might imagine, this isn't the only conversation I'm in over this ruling, provided here again for your convenience. In none of the conversations has someone purporting to be an avid supporter of this protest been able to highlight anything specific in that ruling which they oppose. I actually took the time to read the ruling in light of the protests, and found very little objectionable about it. That is, I'm trying to understand the grievances of the protesters, with genuine interest, but even their supporters can't explain them to me.

I repeatedly hear misinformation which I'd rather wasn't used in the debate, because it shows a disregard for the facts. For instance, that there is a law "against dancing in the memorial." That's ridiculous, of course no such law exists. There is a law against organized demonstration in the memorial. There's as much a law against candlelight vigils in that space as there is against "dancing quietly, at midnight, with 17 like minded individuals." You just aren't allowed to co-opt that space for political purposes, period. The lawsuit filed by Ms. Oberwetter asserted that their right to do so was protected under the first amendment. The ruling (which is only as long, and detailed as it is in homage to Mr. Jefferson) clearly explained why it is not.

I don't want to gang up on you. I want to understand this, and make people think.

@WKB

True, but when the Columbine school shooting was perpetrated, conservatives were quick to point the finger at Marilyn Manson's lyrics. I'm not saying they were right, and I'm not saying that Fox deserves all of the blame here either.

I do think though, that the people pumping that kind of rhetoric onto the airwaves deserve SOME responsibility for atrocities like this. Allow me to compare the Woodstock of 1970 to the Woodstock of '99 for an example.

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>>>>>>The 1970 Woodstock (billed as "3 days of Peace and Music") resulted in reports like this:

"The New York Times covered the prelude to the festival and the move from Wallkill to Bethel.[13] Barnard Collier, who reported from the event for the Times, asserts that he was pressured by on-duty editors at the paper to write a misleadingly negative article about the event. According to Collier, this led to acrimonious discussions and his threat to refuse to write the article until the paper's executive editor, James Reston, agreed to let him write the article as he saw fit. The eventual article dealt with issues of traffic jams and minor lawbreaking, but went on to emphasize cooperation, generosity, and the good nature of the festival goers.

When the festival was over, Collier wrote another article about the exodus of fans from the festival site and the lack of violence at the event. The chief medical officer for the event and several local residents were quoted as praising the festival goers."

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>>>>>>The 1999 version of the event (featuring bands like Metallica, Rage Against the Machine, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock and the Red Hot Chili Peppers who are all, dare I say, a bit angrier [lyrically speaking] than the likes of Arlo Guthrie or Joan Baez) is painted in a much different color:

"Some crowd violence and looting was reported during the Saturday night performance by Limp Bizkit, including a rendition of the song "Break Stuff". Reviewers of the concert criticized Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst as "irresponsible" for encouraging the crowd to destructive behavior.

Violence escalated the next night during the final hours of the concert as Red Hot Chili Peppers performed. A group of peace promoters led by an independent group called Pax had distributed candles to those stopping at their booth during the day, intending them for a candlelight vigil to be held during the Red Hot Chili Peppers' performance of the song "Under the Bridge". During the band's set, the crowd began to light the candles, some also using them to start bonfires. The hundreds of empty plastic water bottles that littered the lawn/dance area were used as fuel for the fire.

After the Red Hot Chili Peppers were finished with their main set, the audience was informed about "a bit of a problem." An audio tower caught fire, and the fire department was called in to extinguish it.

Back onstage for an encore, the Chili Peppers' lead singer Anthony Kiedis remarked how amazing the fires looked from the stage, comparing them to a scene in the film Apocalypse Now.[12] The band proceeded to play "Sir Psycho Sexy", followed by their rendition of Jimi Hendrix's "Fire". Kiedis later stated in his autobiography, Scar Tissue that Jimi Hendrix's sister had asked the Chili Peppers to play "Fire" in honor of Jimi and his performance at the original Woodstock festival, and that they were not playing it to encourage the crowd.

Many large bonfires were burning high before the band left the stage for the last time. Participants danced in circles around the fires. Looking for more fuel, some tore off panels of plywood from the supposedly inviolable security perimeter fence. ATMs were tipped over and broken into, trailers full of merchandise and equipment were forced open and burglarized, and abandoned vendor booths were turned over, and set afire.[13]

MTV, which had been providing live coverage, removed its entire crew. MTV host Kurt Loder described the scene in the July 27, 1999 issue of USA Today:

"It was dangerous to be around. The whole scene was scary. There were just waves of hatred bouncing around the place, (...) It was clear we had to get out of there.... It was like a concentration camp. To get in, you get frisked to make sure you're not bringing in any water or food that would prevent you from buying from their outrageously priced booths. You wallow around in garbage and human waste. There was a palpable mood of anger."

After some time, a large force of New York State Troopers, local police, and various other law enforcement arrived. Most had crowd control gear and proceeded to form a riot-line that flushed the crowd to the northwest, away from the stage located at the eastern end of the airfield. Few of the crowd offered strong resistance and they dispersed quickly back toward the campground and out the main entrance."

>>>>>>See also, this poignant response from a person in the crowd: http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/08/17/woodstock-legacy/ (crowdmember comments @ 2:20)

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Now now easy there big fella, before you start telling me about how correlation does not imply causation consider this: an article recently published by the American Journal of Psychiatry concluded that:

"Childhood exposure to parental verbal aggression was associated, by itself, with moderate to large effects on measures of dissociation, limbic irritability, depression, and anger-hostility." Furthermore, "Combined exposure to verbal abuse and witnessing of domestic violence was associated with extraordinarily large adverse effects, particularly on dissociation. This finding is consonant with studies that suggest that emotional abuse may be a more important precursor of dissociation than is sexual abuse."
See: http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/163/6/993

Maybe not the best example I could have found but I've already spent WAY too much time on this post. The point is, WORDS carry a lot of power. Even if the pundits (right OR left) never came out and said it, the implication of violence was certainly there at times.

I KNOW Fox has lead the charge of fear mongering in the name of ratings but anyone else who subscribed to that level of attack should share some of the blame as well. Again, not saying that they should take all or even a lot of the blame, but they should be responsible for the violent laced rhetoric they spout.

I say STOP THE AD HOMINEM ATTACKS and we'll see less violence against PEOPLE and (hopefully) more enthralling arguments where the IDEAS are being attacked (which I'm all for) :-)

p.s. sry for the huge post but i was on a roll

I have to defend Gangs of New York since to me that was hardly a nothing film. It had the quality of a period piece to where you felt like you were IN mid 19th century New York. Perhaps the movie was a bit longer than it needed to be but after re-watching it again recently I feel that it is up to the Scorsese standard. I do have difficulty remembering Eyes Wide Shut, and the only time I saw it was when it was originally in theaters.

Unfortunately I also lack the fortune of having seen either Goodfellas *or* Casino on the Scorsese side which makes for rather awkward conversations with the rest of the world who has. Same thing for Spartacus or Paths of Glory.

I did, however, watch Barry Lyndon for the first time just a few days ago. Now that is some damn fine cinematography. I know they used special f/0.9 lenses for the candlelight scenes, and it shows.

Upvote for the beautiful selection of music for the montage

whats all the fuss?
it's just a group of kindly grandma's masturbating in front of each other and then releasing the sexual energy to the universe.
that's normal....right?
you mean you guys dont masturbate in groups?
solo huh?
well i'll be........
no wonder my neighbor keeps avoiding me.
the masturbating didnt bother me..
it was the blaring lights.
somebody should have told these kindly grandmas that candlelight goes a loooong way.
kevlar may need therapy after this.

Thanks to everyone who participated in this fine roast. I’d like to take a moment to thank gwiz665 for his undeniably unsubstantial role as masters of ceremonies. His highest ranked comment: *sticky. I’ve seen more participation from an armless lifeguard. I guess he’s too busy stalking alien_concept. Fuck that creepy douche.

And I’d like to give thanks to burdturgler for getting drunk (or not taking his medication), leaving the majority of attention-whoring posts, and ultimately becoming disgruntled and embittered like the girl who couldn’t get a date to the prom but went any way so to not lose face. In the end, of course, she does lose face, and I think we can all see that to be evidenced here, as well. Burdturgler is a Xanax away from climbing to the top of a Texas University clock tower.

And to ReverendTed... Who?

And to Shepppard... No one likes you. The only thing I know about you is your depraved admiration for cops who taze little girls in the skull. Shepppard was that disturbed guy in high school who pretended to be allergic to soap and was expelled for being caught in class shoving unhatched bird eggs up his bung until they cracked and seeped back out. Looked like swollen cabbage vomiting urine.

And thanks, as always, to dotdude for facilitating these roasts and refusing to say anything unpleasant. Be a prick for once, you bastard! You’re so agreeable if berticus broke into your home and raped you, you’d offer to cuddle him afterwards. Speaking of berticus, has anyone else ever met a nastier more dangerous gay? I mean, if you speak more than two sentences with the guy, he always brings it back to fucking you. Berticus is to the gay community what Ted Bundy is to the straight community.

And, did everyone notice what alien_concept did with my name? Isn’t that precious? I was expecting her to knit me a sweater or something girly, but instead she made an acronym of my name. I mean, yeah, she could’ve been original, but we can’t be too tough on her. She does, after all, have a vagina. We should be proud that she has learned how to use a computer instead of covering it with glitter and trying to bake pies inside it. A bit of future advice for you broads: less talkie, more suckie.

And deputydog... I think we’re all tired of your douchebag self-portrait avatar. We get it, you think you’re sexy and you want everyone to see you. I think you may be trying too hard. Everyone knows berticus doesn’t care what you look like; he’d fuck anything with an asshole.

And rasch187, so glad you could manage some extra time to show up outside of your candlelight vigils for the countless choggie sockpuppet accounts I’ve instabanned throughout the year. Let me lighten the mood with a joke... Hey, what do they call smart people in Norway? Swedish tourists.

And xxovercastxx, it’s obvious the concept of a comic book grading system is lost on you, much like the concept of turning down your volume when a video is too loud. And, don’t pretend you’re above the puerility of a good roast, you big silly narcissist; let’s not forget the time when you roasted yourself (http://cult.videosift.com/talk/Let-me-have-it).

Hey rottenseed. Roasting. You’re doing it wrong. Take joedirt’s penis out of your mouth and come up with some snappier jokes. You made a list. A list? We’re not going to the grocery store; we’re having a roast. I am petitioning you to remain hobbled until you find your funny. Speaking of finding the funny, that goes for you, too, ponceleon, you unfunny bastard. You’re also boring and uninteresting. For example, ponceleon has contributed two worthless Talk Posts; one about Appletinis and the other about Hulu being blocked outside the US. Riveting. He is to a talk post what Nickelback is to Rock n’ Roll.

Am I the only person here who thinks JiggaJonson didn’t even try to be relevant, let alone funny? Something about me raping his mother and murdering his father? Way to bring the lulz, JJ. You’ve only just surpassed Ryjkyj who is not worth writing more than a sentence over. Done.

Look who showed up! Randomize! I have to admit I’m surprised to see you’re back after you made that pledge to leave the Sift for the VideoSift for Vampires. Did you grow tired of choking on your own masturbatory pretension?

And, thanks to the corn-husking Nebraskan MrFisk who, most people don’t know, has lived through a broken spine. Damn shame. That. You. Lived. If only we banned your quadriplegic ass the first time. It’s good to also see your sockpuppet account, thinker247, is here to take time off from his usual hobbling or Siftquisition. Damn, you’re so vile even your sockpuppet is in danger of being banned.

Sagemind wrote me a poem. Ass. Please read my above comment to rottenseed about roasting and doing it wrong. This also goes for you imstellar28. Why do all Objectivists seem to miss the point of every fucking thing? And vairetube, or as I like to refer to you: westy-lite. Your spelling is better than his, but... yeah... what the fuck, dude? Did you roast me or was that a stream of conscious letter to Santa Claus asking him for shellfish?

[edit] And Crosswords, I totally skipped you. You're probably used to that, though, being that you're so unremarkable in every way. Hell, I tried to find something interesting on you, but could only find this. So, fuck you for being too boring to make fun of.

Anyhow, thanks to all of you who showed up and gave it your best shot. At least you tried. Fucking douches.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

^Take you home and massage fragrant oils into your skin by candlelight.

>> ^rasch187:
Now doogle is making jokes at my expense? I would retort but I'm a bit worried by what a guy who looks like this would do to me.

When you were 14 there was no electricity in Brazil, so we had to watch tv by candlelight.

Not ethanol subsidies by themselves, but the major intervention in the market did break some things. Government action was pretty heavy handed here. The examples from your economist perspectives are bit more common sense related. I am referring more to outright market manipulation like demanding the switch to fuel alternatives that aren't ready yet. It is almost on par with demanding people switch from candlelight to light bulbs before the framework is even in place to have electricity for everyone. On top of already increasing problems with oil speculation and rising prices, we have made no solid moves towards providing our own oil while we end up making corn an energy commodity. Instead of seeking ways to increase supply of what is in demand, we start talking fluff about switching to alternatives that either don't work or don't exist in a functional capacity. How about working on that while actually providing what the market demands in the mean time? Even the mere mention of possibly attempting to drill for ourselves caused prices to temporarily drop while speculators worried. Attempts to force an inefficient fuel source into the mainstream causes even more problems. Farmers trying to collect the money being offered rotated out standard food crops like wheat and rice in favor of corn. Massive amounts of corn were allocated to ethanol production cutting into what used to be used to food and exporting. Natural causes wiped out another significant portion in Iowa. Now you've got the US, who is a major corn exporter in the world, unable to provide the exports it once handled. Food riots start breaking out around the world in areas where food prices are rising. While all this is happening, we are still required by law to produce even more of this stuff. So I don't expect prices to come down anytime soon. There is actually a good sift here on the subject.

http://www.videosift.com/video/Ethanol-Silly-Senator-Corn-is-for-Food

As for the health care plans, I suppose we'll see when he actually moves to implement it. I doubt he will get a real universal plan through without opposition. Also, if past attempts by Democrats are any indication, the things he proposes in a moderate tone are only for election time. The real policies and tax plans shine through once they are elected.

Yeah I actually read a magazine by candlelight and some of my old manga. It's funny how much electricity we use just for sitting down an relaxing. On the up side I found a lightbulb that was not compact fluorescent so that was fixed asap.