search results matching tag: blood dragon

» channel: motorsports

go advanced with your query
Search took 0.000 seconds

  • 1
    Videos (6)     Sift Talk (0)     Blogs (0)     Comments (13)   

Interstate '76 - GTA V

A Summary Of Steam's Stupidest Move Yet!

newtboy says...

Yes, but who's the developer...developer of what? The game, or the mod? If that means the mod developer has the option, that's better.
I read it as 25-30% to Valve/Steam...the remaining 70-75% to be split between the game creator, and the mod creator, on a split to be determined by the game creator, usually giving the mod developer what amounts to 25-30% of the total. That seemed fair to me, since that means the work product is worth 75% of selling price, and the original creator did way more than 2/3 of that work...meaning the mod developer gets a great deal at 25%.
Auto repair is not analogous. Making a replica/kit car is closer, and I believe they do pay royalties...certainly replica car makers do. If the mod makers were fixing the game, that would be different, but they are not. Shelby and Ford had contracts where they shared profits, as do many other professional car modders.
It is a problem if someone takes a game, mods it, then sells the mod as if they created the entire thing...they did not. They used someone's work product to create something else. Without the original program, they would have nothing.
These companies are under no compulsion to allow mods, and if they believe charging for the privilege is a good business model, they have every right to try. I think it's a toss up. People expect them for free at this point, but developers have a right to demand payment for their product...and any new product based on their product.
Really, I have no idea what I'm talking about? I've played many a mod, and 'playable fan fiction' is an apt description to my eyes. (see Blood Dragon) It's taking a known series and skewing it in some way. What you end up with is BASED on the original, is created using the original as a 'template' (and in the case of games using the program itself), is using/riding the popularity of the original to be seen at all, and would not exist without the original. To me that's pretty damn close.
I think it's actually more analogous to plagiarism, which is actionable...or may be condoned and/or licensed....but it's up to the creator of the original to decide that.

NaMeCaF said:

What's the first paragraph of the description say?

"...making Workshop mods now have the *option* for the developer to lock them behind a paywall..."

I understood it to be 25% goes to the mod maker and the remaining 75% goes to valve and bethesda (splitting to 30% to valve and 70% to bethesda). But maybe its 30% to valve then 70% to mod maker and bethesda (splitting it into 25% to mod maker and 75% to bethesda)? Either way its stupid.

Do you think auto repair and service centers should pay the car companies a percentage of their profits when they paint your car or make modifications to it?

The fact is modding has been grand for the last 30+ years without anyone doing it for the money. Some have gone on to make full games based on their mods and sold them, and there's no problem with that, because the mod still remains free.

Game companies like Bethesda release mod tools because it is good business for them. It extends the life of their games, grows their community and brings in more people who buy their games FOR the mods. Just go and have a look on the Nexus to see how many mods there are for the Elder Scrolls and Fallout games.

Both Valve and Bethesda are now just in PR mode and trying to put out the fires. Do you think their sole intent was purely for the money to go to the mod makers like they say? Then why is the split so heavily in their favor and the mod makers are getting a pissy 25%. Its contradictory.

And if you think it's "playable fan-fiction" then you obviously have no idea what you're talking about

David Hasselhoff - True Survivor

kir_mokum says...

the video effect is bad chromatic aberration which is an artifact of a bad lens. it's standard for movies and TV shows with no budget. blood dragon was just drawing from the same influences (80s-early 90s action/fantasy movies/TV, foreign action fantasy movies, taiwanese movies, hong kong movies, telugu movies, possibly nigerian movies) and the underground popularity of synthwave, chillwave, even italodisco, and chiptune. kung fury could have pull some influence from blood dragon but both are based on 30 year old cliches so that influence is a bit meaningless since the source material is so redily available.

ChaosEngine said:

This is a bit more specific than just general 80s kitch. Even the video effect was very Blood Dragon, along with the dude riding a dinosaur

David Hasselhoff - True Survivor

ChaosEngine says...

This is a bit more specific than just general 80s kitch. Even the video effect was very Blood Dragon, along with the dude riding a dinosaur

kir_mokum said:

this kitch 80s/early 90s aesthetic has been around for a lot longer than blood dragon.

David Hasselhoff - True Survivor

David Hasselhoff - True Survivor

KUNG FURY Official Trailer - AKA Best Movie Trailer Ever

Chairman_woo says...

I have played Blood Dragon.....3 times now.


@9547bis 's point still stands. 80's revivalism/nostalgia has been with us before either this or Blood dragon (I'm pretty mad into my "retro synthwave" at the moment)

Blood Dragon has
No Nazis
No Thor
No "Hacking through time"
No Bright red 80' sports cars
No Vakyrie warrior maidens

i.e. basically anything in common other than being inspired by the cheesiest elements of a particular decade.

Plus Blood dragon while also being very very silly had a somewhat more realistic edge to it than this and draws more on war and sci-fi films & games. Rather than the broader action & kung fu film strokes in this trailer.

I'm not saying there can't have been maybe a touch of inspiration/motivation from blood dragon, but the material they have produced so far bears no resemblance to me of a rip off in any way shape or form.


It's like saying The Last Starfighter was a rip off of Starwars.
Last Starfighter may have been motivated by the success of Starwars but the resulting film felt entirely original (well as original as any standard format hero epic).

artician said:

I think you'd change your mind if you'd played Blood Dragon.

KUNG FURY Official Trailer - AKA Best Movie Trailer Ever

artician says...

I think you'd change your mind if you'd played Blood Dragon.

9547bis said:

Yeah. The logo (an 80s cliché), and dinosaurs (another 80s cliché). "Everything" indeed.

Has it occurred to you that two works both based on 80s B-movies, and therefore not original material, will likely share many traits, without having to copy each other (the Kung Fury project was started around a year ago, according to its kickstarter page)?

80s revival did not start 8 months ago. A number of retro music projects, rebooted film franchises, and B-movie parodies have been popping up for the last few years, it was only a matter of time before a mid/maybe-full length movie happened. Who's late-blooming again?

KUNG FURY Official Trailer - AKA Best Movie Trailer Ever

Zero Punctuation: Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon

Zero Punctuation: Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon

Zero Punctuation: Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon

Zero Punctuation: Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon

RadHazG says...

mm Yea I screwed up the channels buuuuut *dupe=http://videosift.com/video/Zero-Punctuation-Far-Cry-3-Blood-Dragon

(no I can't actually invoke that but still)

  • 1


Send this Article to a Friend



Separate multiple emails with a comma (,); limit 5 recipients






Your email has been sent successfully!

Manage this Video in Your Playlists

Beggar's Canyon