“There’s no such thing as bad weather, only the wrong clothes.”

Well, they're much farther apart than they appear...and yet, not far enough lol.
One of the reasons SFO has such horrendous weather delays is that the runways are JUST close enough together that the FAA does not currently allow for side by side instrument approaches to them in bad weather. So, what is a "two lane" airport suddenly becomes a "one lane" airport as soon as the fog, clouds, or stuff shows up. And then the delays become ridiculous

The excuse I heard was they were afraid of bad weather so pretaped it in December.

Hard to have a discussion when the basic psychological concept that is endemic in society is not understood by one side of the conversation. Not really worth trying to dig out of that hole, in my opinion.

I do like your idealist view of how people SHOULD be. We aren't that way, of course. I wish it for all our futures.

Including men, and the internalized messages they get that warp their view of the world.

I have contended for years that men are in a much worse psychological state than women. We at least are encouraged to delve into our emotions, with varying degrees of success. Poor men are told to buck up and be "men". What a horrible thing to say to a little boy, or a preteen, or a teenager, or a young man entering adulthood, or a grown man dealing with a difficult world. No wonder men die earlier than women. The pressures they are under are enormous, with no way to relieve that pressure.

Generally speaking. There is a movement that has been gathering steam that is encouraging men to become more fully themselves.

The hike was great, albeit too short. We don't have great big waterfalls here on the Olympic Peninsula. It has been raining a lot lately. The waterfall that we visited was THUNDERING. I have never seen a thundering waterfall here.

Then again, I don't normally hike in the winter.

As for the weather... some Norwegian told a friend of mine -- There is no bad weather. Only bad clothing.

My clothing was fine, aided by the fact it started raining after we headed back home.

And then Christians wonder or get upset that I think Christianity is a sham... got to love the "Foremost expert on terrorism" on the one guy. As I've said before, even if I was still a Christian, at this point I'd be 99% sure the whole Republican movement is part of the Anti-Christ movement. It is the Christians after all that need deceived, not the rest of the already Hell bound world. What better way to deceive them, than to make them stand up for everything Jesus stood against, while standing against everything He stood for, all the while proclaiming how they alone were the true Christians the way the Republican/Christian right claim. As a bonus, they make Christianity so vile, it repeals anyone away from even considering Christianity, when it's most public image isn't one of love and acceptance that Jesus taught, but of bigotry and hate that is at the core of the right today. But I know these sort of people, both sides of my family are it, and they think the rest of the world is being deceived, that the Democrats practice a fake Christianity ("if you read the Bible you couldn't be Democrat, you'd have to be Republican" never considering that Democrat Christians say the same thing but reversed) and that we are clearly in the end times, which is why global warming doesn't matter, as Jesus will be back long before we can do any real harm... plus Revelations talks about the bad weather in the end times anyhow.

I 100% regret every second of my life that was wasted being such a person as these, and believing their filthy lies... and for most of these televangelist and Fox news types, they know they are lying, not just deluded, which the smaller preachers and many in the faith are.

I'd say more, but I shouldn't really watch these videos, it just fuels my anger at them, and then I have a hard time focusing on the actual good in the world.

Interesting, just yesterday I watched this clip on Youtube as it's one of my favorite movies. And I posted this comment there:

I have heard several times that the large send-off meal hampered some of the soldiers by making their sea-sickness worse. But how accurate is that, as they had the big meal on the previous day. Then the invasion was delayed by a day due to bad weather and the cooks had to scrounge what they could to provide another day of meals for all those men. So this "last meal" making things worse for those in the landing craft seems to be a myth.

Ok I drive trucks and live in Minnesota, we get HORRIBLE weather all the time. People take shit seriously up here when it comes to driving in bad weather. This storm hit us too, I drove Semi's in it and got home fine. It's idiotic to drive 50+ on poor roads in white out conditions which all those vehicles were doing.

Been there. The whole plane broke out into applause when the plane stopped. People crying. Strangers hugging each other. I laugh about it now, but I still don't fly during bad weather.

Well, we both agree on the non-existence of god, I am glad to say, but your point here is still nonsense, the idea that humans are the culprit of most human suffering is just wrong. Sure, there are some dreadful examples, but by far, most suffering comes from non-human controlled factors like disease, disasters, random accidents etc. Humans have actually done quite a bit to reduce the "naturally" occurring death and suffering visited upon us (like medicine or early warning systems for bad weather etc) We have also raised the living standards from a fearful, ignorant, dangerous habitat for at least some parts of the world.

No wonder some classes of warships are spoken of as having "wet foredecks"---which makes it hard to use all their armament in bad weather.
Look at the openings for the vertical launch missile systems (those deck hatches) and imagine the water crashing down onto open covers/missile warheads...

Your odds of being in a crash are already 1 and 14 million. But, reason doesn't stop irrational fears, it hasn't stopped mine (I am also a white knuckle flyer). Also, weather doesn't bring down planes as much as CFIT does, in other words, turbulence isn't the problem, your pilot getting lost and ramming the plane into a mountain is a greater possibility. With todays weather monitoring EQ, though, very few flights go down to bad weather, which would be related directly to turbulence. Turbulence is to flight like pot holes to driving, of no real concern to your safety. I actually love planes, I just hate flying in them...an irony. I have also studied (in my own time) most all the air crashes in the history of manned flight. So once again, turbulence is the least of your worries on a plane, and the odds say you have a better risk of falling off a ladder and dying than in a plane crash. Hopefully that helps some for you, it doesn't for me!

>> ^RhesusMonk:

Despite my frequent flying, I am TERRIFIED of turbulence and any kind of shakiness whilst in the air. I get a massive fear-sweat response, cling to the bottom of my seat, and have been known to tear up a bit. (Btw, I'm about 6'6" and 280 lbs, grew up a little punchy, and lettered in three sports). I've been on flights where there was movie-style crazy turbulence for hours on end, during which I was sure I was going to die. I guess my fear is because I don't really understand the physics of flying or turbulence (or maybe because I understand them too well?). I have also been on numerous flights that have been struck by lightning. Some where the flash made it obvious that we'd been struck, and some where the captain came on to jokingly let us know because of how little effect it had on our flight. My understanding is that the risk of a lightning strike to a plane in flight is about the same as the static prick you get from a doorknob in a carpeted room. No biggie.
Now if someone could kindly explain why turbulence shouldn't make me terrified, I'd be deeply gratified.

Well I hope people don't start complaining of waste when the salt trucks are driving their routes for practice and familiarization or early salting/treating bridges just in case of low temps.

But what's seen in this video is probably training and them checking clearances and issues. Like people's leaning walls or trees, or other obstructions they will need cleared to make it possible to plow the sidewalks. And complaining about their blades down on the sidewalk one day of non-snow when they plow the hell out of them basically blind when snow does fall is just stupid.

Unless they are doing this on a weekend, I doubt they are getting overtime while the sun is out given the kind of daylight hours we're seeing now.

And it's just as likely they are running the machines and routes in daytime so people can see their presence and see how much room they need to clear the sidewalks when snow does come. I doubt they want to plow and dodge trashcans, cars and whatever else come bad weather. Too many people lose their minds when they encounter something new in familiar areas....such as construction on familiar roads.

Yah, the idea of those safety guidelines is so that in the event of a worse case scenario you still have a little breathing room to salvage the plane. I imagine there is considerable less breathing room on this approach. Bad weather and even a rather minor mechanical fault could easily fuck shit up considerably given all that low altititude manoeuvering.

So yeh, I'll fly somewhere nearby and drive thanks.

Although given the extra training the pilots receive it could actually be a safer airport overall

This is insanely dangerous, did they not think to put a sign up? I live on the coast and there'd be a sign up the night before the bad weather.

Why isn't the helicopter dropping low and trying to warn people? Are they insane? That's serious life or death shit, it isn't a laugh.

The simplest solution is industrial eyelets on walls and columns around the ship and strong straps attached to unmoored objects. You can leave things unstrapped until signs of bad weather, and strap them to the eyelets when seas get rough. In other words, like someone said above "batten down the hatches".