It would be better if this video didn't utilize the fallacies it was trying to inform us of (ad hominem, calling that VenomFangX kid creepy) but overall, not bad.

Do u remember there was a guy on youtube called VENOMFANGX?. ahh, those were good times...

I think venomfangx is a troll and thunderfoot is in on it. This has been going on way too long.

@Toshley - Understandable. As SDGundamX said, it is mostly a shouting match, unfortunately. But I'm a little bit obsessive on the subject, and can't seem to help myself from discussing it.

@SDGundamX - That webpage said a lot of things that were very similar to Toshley's video. Though VenomFangX is a repulsive human being for a variety of other reasons, that particular video was quite interesting. Upon first watching, it seems to make sense. Unfortunately some of his arguments depend on further stretching the bounds of credulity, such as with the half-demon people. And neither site mentions Matthew 5:17-19, which appears to indicate that Jesus intended all the Old Testament laws to continue until all prophesies were fulfilled.

Anyway, poking at these trivialities is ultimately useless, since the very foundation of the religion is untenable. No point in chipping at the mortar.

Now that VenomFangX is out of the picture (for now), I guess he's gotta have an antagonist. I just wish he'd aim a bit higher.

"Despite the "penalties" for an inappropriate use of takedown notice, I don't think there has been a single case ever where this has been applied."

See the public YouTube case of VenomFangX vs. Thunderf00t.

That's just how one false DMCA claim was handled (oddly enough, very similar situation - creationist wanted to stifle free thinker's free speech). There are many more where the DMCA's misuse has seen consequences, and some big names have had to say they were wrong. The EFF would probably be a good place to look, since they're usually involved wherever the DMCA is being invoked, and often, they help with legal expenses of those falsely accused of DMCA infraction (although both Thunderf00t and DonExodus2 both found pro bono help - it seems when it comes to the DMCA and getting a sure-fire case win, you can expect lawyers to come out of the woodwork to your aid).

If you file a DMCA notice on youtube, you are expected to sue the uploaders. If you don't, that's pretty much a given that you're not using the DMCA the way you're supposed to. By law, youtube has to share the takedown letter to the uploader (and they do), so that they can prepare for a lawsuit or counter-suit as the case may be.

Don't get me wrong. The DMCA was a horrible piece of legislation that proves that lawmakers are lazy, incompetent, and just plain out of touch with how the majority of this country thinks. But there's some teeth built into the bill to keep it from being used as a way to stifle free speech. If you're caught misusing the DMCA, you expose yourself to both legal and civil damage. If you cannot pay for your false claims, you can have an injunction placed against you from filing any further DMCA claims.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'AronRa, VenomFangX, creationist, Ida, evolution, ownage' to 'AronRa, geerup, creationist, Ida, evolution, ownage' - edited by xxovercastxx

interesting how venomfangx (what a retarded name for a christian btw)is already having to fight a minor backlash.

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I was wondering why that guy was so familiar...then I realized it was VenomfangX. I guess one of his biggest fans recently went out killed a girl and then killed himself.

lol, oh venomfangx

Too bad we couldn't stop VenomFangXs' Venom before it was too late...

>> ^Creature:
I was wondering why that guy was so familiar...then I realized it was VenomfangX. I guess one of his biggest fans recently went out killed a girl and then killed himself.


Better half sifted it...

Atheists don't matter to god so they should be shot? Did Anthony Powell write this ad?

I was wondering why that guy was so familiar...then I realized it was VenomfangX. I guess one of his biggest fans recently went out killed a girl and then killed himself.


*link should be fixed

That's a real good summary, RadHazG. The only qualifier I'd add is that as far as I can tell on the second set togetherinpeace didn't file them, he warned PCS that it wasn't a copyright issue and PCS filed those himself in spite of the warning that he shouldn't and that togetherinpeace wouldn't. Venomfangx was told straight out to "be careful, if you file a false DMCA you can get your account suspended".

Additional info would be that during the week+ that PCS had to think about it PCS had either a nervous breakdown or something pretty close to it. Two vids before this one in the playlist has segments of it, "False DMCA Consequences". PCS did at least 5 full videos in that time which were later deleted by him. There's just fragments left such as the clips used in this playlist but it got really, really weird. Costumes, makeup, lots of shouting and play acting. It got really weird. I think that had as much as anything to do with him getting off easy. It would have been kicking someone who was already in real trouble, or at least would have gave the appearance of it.

I should have done that earlier in the thread, thanks for getting to it