>> ^xxovercastxx:

What people don't seem to realize is that Atkins is starvation with a full belly. Yes, if you reduce your useable energy intake to zero, you'll quickly start dropping fat... and muscle... and whatever else your body can break down to fill the gap.
When you go back to eating normally, you'll probably pack it right back on. That's how our bodies generally respond to starvation.
The real kicker is how many people think carbs are unhealthy as a result of this stupid diet.
Back around 2000 when I was sick with an ulcer, acid reflux, and a generally uncooperative GI tract, I was telling someone about how I ate a lot of plain pasta because it never irritated my gut, it was reasonably healthy, and at least I was eating something. I was about 40lbs underweight at this point, so I had to take what I could get. Someone overheard me and said, "Oh, all those carbs are really unhealthy."


It's not starvation - fat has twice as much 'usable energy' as carbohydrates have per gram. Your mind will tell you it's starving for the first few days, because it takes time to build up enough enzymes to efficiently process the different form of energy than it usually gets, but it all ends up as ATP eventually. You're probably right about some people thinking carbs are bad because of this diet, but that's assuming they treat the diet like a religion and don't look at any other information, which is not going to be the case for everyone - and heck, quite a few of the sources of easily available carbs these days are pretty horribawful.

Also, if you look at the research, those participants in low carb/high fat/adequate protein diets usually fair just as good, or better than, high carb participants in terms of keeping the weight off after the diet is over.

>> ^EvilDeathBee:

>> ^Sagemind:
Anyway you look at it, Atkins is still dead!

What's your point? That his diet doesn't work because he's died... at the age of 72... from a fall where hit his head?


As Tom Stoppard said, when asked why he smoked while knowing cigarretts could kill him, "How differently I might behave if immortality were an option."

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>> ^EvilDeathBee:

I dunno about that. Someone slipping, smashing their head, causing them to die isn't something I'd put down as funny. Must be my strange, Australian sense of humour.


Sure, fuck that guy I don't know him. I hope everyone I don't know dies horribly and someone I know gets it on video so I can laugh forever!

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^EvilDeathBee:
>> ^Sagemind:
Anyway you look at it, Atkins is still dead!

What's your point? That his diet doesn't work because he's died... at the age of 72... from a fall where hit his head?

I think his point was to be funny.


I dunno about that. Someone slipping, smashing their head, causing them to die isn't something I'd put down as funny. Must be my strange, Australian sense of humour.

>> ^EvilDeathBee:

>> ^Sagemind:
Anyway you look at it, Atkins is still dead!

What's your point? That his diet doesn't work because he's died... at the age of 72... from a fall where hit his head?


I think his point was to be funny.

>> ^Sagemind:

Anyway you look at it, Atkins is still dead!


What's your point? That his diet doesn't work because he's died... at the age of 72... from a fall where hit his head?

>> ^ChaosEngine:

Yeah, atkins sucks. And so does dial-up internet and the spice girls.
Anything else that died out a few years ago that he wants to rail against?


He's talking about low carb high protein diets though really and they have definitely not died out.

MY point (not THE point) was the beauteous simplicity of the exchange.

Hence the title.

Yes.

Done and dusted. No big argument. Just yes and move on.

If I could have cut this up to be just 45 seconds, I would have done so. Unfortunately, I only know how to cut up YouTube vids. I also would have cut out the advert.

Unfortunately, I have apparently ruined your day because my computer skills are lacking.

I send you a "there there" and hope you feel better soon.




>> ^chingalera:

Thanks for the mandatory advert-Oh, and Shaq earned his doctorate. I feel so good now knowing that hoop-stuffing earns university points.
Other than that-Non-Journalism, mute point, kick dead horse, get your gay on, etc. What really matters in a world of bullshit anyway? Asking the question begs an answer from oneself. This post has nothing to do with true gayness. One may sense anger and frustration the motivation for the offering or perhaps a pulpit or soapbox boost to make a point.
What's the point?.

Thanks for the mandatory advert-Oh, and Shaq earned his doctorate. I feel so good now knowing that hoop-stuffing earns university points.

Other than that-Non-Journalism, mute point, kick dead horse, get your gay on, etc. What really matters in a world of bullshit anyway? Asking the question begs an answer from oneself. This post has nothing to do with true gayness. One may sense anger and frustration the motivation for the offering or perhaps a pulpit or soapbox boost to make a point.

What's the point?.

To MSNBC: This is not news. Go away and leave your employees and servants to chum the sea of slavery for a life.

>> ^Skeeve:

Nice of them to make it simple for kids... but we did not evolve from Chimpanzees. We share a common ancestor to Chimpanzees. Sloppy simplification can be worse than no simplification at all - especially when the "my grandma wasn't a monkey!" people get involved.


Yeah but stupid people will always be stupid. At least this way the kids who this does spark an interest with will go on to learn the facts eventually themselves, even if it is in the way of going one day to their mate, or a teacher in class "oh, we descended from apes didn't we?" and then they are in a prime position to learn the complex truth of the matter, because they give a shit and it was already somewhat in their head.

I just like things that are entertaining and educational, I can see the use of it even if it isn't bang on scientifically correct. I can see your aggravation too, if Bob Hale oversimplified parenting or grammar (even though I'm not great grammatically I'm not a rapist and it fucks me off when I see it) I'd be straight up on my soapbox

>> ^kymbos:

I understand you, NR. My point is that if any one of us was in Paul's position, we'd end up compromised by our opinion, because it's diabolically complicated. Life is diabolically complicated. Or not. Depending on the circumstance.


Which is why we try not to make overly simple laws that don't take that complexity into account.

My personal view point on it is that in a complicated situation, it's up to the woman to decide. Yes, some sensible limits should be put in place (6/7 months seems long enough to make a decision) and there will always be tragic fringe cases, but we should deal with that on a case by case basis.

But as far as I am concerned, RPs "libertarianism" loses all credibility when he starts arguing for government control over women's bodies.

Actually, fuck it, I'm already on this soapbox, so here goes.

His position is seriously fucked up. He wants to remove laws protecting people from corporations, discrimination and so on, while at the same time enacting a law that allows government control over a woman's body? It's actually retarded, and frankly I've lost all respect for him.

>> ^Drachen_Jager:

>> ^renatojj:
United States knows the importance of free speech but doesn't have a free economy. China is reaping the benefits of a freer economy but is still scared of free speech.

Yeah, Go Foxconn, the employees are reaping some really good suicide benefits there! Or how 'bout all those miners killed every year in China. Those guys really reaped some benefits.
Melamine in your milk = Benefit of a freer economy
School collapses and kills your children because contractor cheaped out on concrete = Benefit of freer economy
People make unhealthy fake eggs through chemistry and sell them at the market = Benefit of a freer economy
Sign me up, sounds GREAT!
Yes, they actually do make fake eggs and sell them to unsuspecting customers in China, it's a big business.
Thank you, but no. I'd like some restrictions on the economy. China is a perfect example of why Libertarians are so damn wrong.


Get off your soapbox Snoopy, there wouldn't be a powerful China without American capitalists offshoring everything to take advantage of cheap labour/costs and then importing the products back. Or do Apple (a US company last time I checked) get off scott free because somehow they didn't know their products were being produced by near slavery..?

>> ^njjh201:

Cool let's now see the sequel, "Chinese Youth Discuss what is Wrong with what happened at Tiannenmen Square in June 1989"
No?
Oh OK then.


And there's American arrogance, assuming that everything is exactly how you believe it is... The chinese government certainly represses knowledge of Tiannenmen, but you'd have to be a moron to believe people don't remember and word doesn't spread, and people are told to not get caught talking about it...

ps. Funny how the greatest assistant to the repression of knowledge re: Tiannenmen square is *drumroll* the US company Google and their willingness to allow regions to dictate what appears on their localised Google.

I dearly dearly DEARLY hope that the Sift wakes up and stops even acknowledging that shinyblurry is here when he makes his soapbox comments.

I welcome him here as a person, but as an evangelical who is attempting to convert the masses, I am so bone deep bored by him, I can't hardly stand it.

I'm sorry that he upset you so much, Jigga. I know you are grieving. As soon as I heard the news about Hitch, I knew that there would be a communal outpouring of grief here on the Sift.

Ignore him when he has this hat on. There is nothing else for it. Trolling is accepted every single day here, and has driven away many a fine person from the Sift. SB's silly link is nothing, really.

It is your understandable grief talking, yeah?

If you really want to do something, encourage everyone to ignore sb. He'll go away when he stops getting fed. Or rather, the evangelical part will go away. Comments on cat videos as a normal human being, and not as a proseltyzing agent, are always welcome.

Boy did you miss the point.

He wasn't making a comment on religion... he was making a comment on the death penalty.

He was explicitly stating how wrong people are to use the bible to justify capital punishment.>> ^A10anis:

So, "an eye for an eye" is gods word, but he has been misunderstood? Hallelujah, we can all rest easy, god was just bad at communicating his tenets. Now, off you go and interpret his word any way that suits you. Religion is so obviously man made and, as such, ambiguous nonsense.