I thought I should *promote this in remembrance of the first President of the Russian Federation and one hell of a funky dancer!!!

This clip shows Shi'a Muslims on the day of Ashura (عاشوراء) overcome with emotion and crying and beating themselves in protest and remembrance of a horrible tragedy - the murder of Husayn ibn Ali, the grandson of Muhammad, and his family at the Battle of Karbala in the year 61 AH (AD 680). The imam has just finished reading about the tragedy and he is deeply moved. He and the others inflict pain on themselves to remind themselves of the pain that Husayn and his family suffered. Husayn's martyrdom is seen by Shi'a as a symbol of the struggle against injustice, tyranny, and oppression. Saddam Hussein, himself a cruel, unjust and tyranical leader, banned Shi'a Muslims from publicly commemorating Ashura. This is a very important and sad day for Shi'a Muslims and one which I personally don't think should be trivially mocked by those who know nothing about it.

I'm not against good religious satire - this just isn't any good!

I watched through the whole vid even though I didn't want to, but I felt it was important to find out what you see before making a decision.

mlx: you do make some valid points, but I do agree with the fact that we also removed the fireworks video that killed the videographer.

You could also argue that that video had historical significance - perhaps not as earth changing at 9/11, but it was a "personal 9/11" for the people who lived around that factory.

And joedirt, technically this is even more of a snuff film than the fireworks videographer, since in that vid you do not even know the man died; here you hear it happening, and it's heart wrenching.

In addition to that, I read a comment on Youtube from a 16 y.o. who commented that this prompted tears. The policy as it stands keeps VS a "safe place" where you can expect some limits to what will appear in the vids. I have a lot of regret doing this, b/c I do think it's a powerful video that many people should see, but in my humble opinion, VS isn't the place for it.

The final reason, which I believe swayed me the most (if not the previous one), is to keep it off out of respect for his children. Should they decide they want to honour their dad by broadcasting it, then I think the decision should be theirs (just like how in Canada media are allowed to witness the return of KIA soldiers from Afghanistan at the option of the family).

For those reasons, and despite my reluctance born of the "Remembrance Day"/"Veterans Day" vow to "never forget", as well as my inherent bias against 'censorship' in various forms, the debate has made me feel strongly enough about this to say *discard

I apologize to those who disagree, however I hope I've made the reasoning clear.

This is a true Canadian treasure. This short used to play on CBC back in the '70s and '80s. Part of our collective remembrance.