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Cain: "Gay Is A Choice" on The View

dystopianfuturetoday says...

Brilliantly subversive. That's pretty much an argument ender. I can't wait for the opportunity to use this argument IRL. >> ^bareboards2:

Dan Savage's open letter to Herman Cain:
Dear Herman,
If being gay is a choice, show us the proof. Choose it. Choose to be gay yourself. Show America how that's done, Herman, show us how a man can choose to be gay. Suck my dick, Herman. Name the time and the place and I'll bring my dick and a camera crew and you can suck me off and win the argument.
Very sincerely yours,
Dan Savage

Cain: "Gay Is A Choice" on The View

Boise_Lib says...

>> ^bareboards2:

Dan Savage's open letter to Herman Cain:
Dear Herman,
If being gay is a choice, show us the proof. Choose it. Choose to be gay yourself. Show America how that's done, Herman, show us how a man can choose to be gay. Suck my dick, Herman. Name the time and the place and I'll bring my dick and a camera crew and you can suck me off and win the argument.
Very sincerely yours,
Dan Savage


Full out belly laugh!

Herman Cain--Suck My Dick!

Cain: "Gay Is A Choice" on The View

blankfist says...

>> ^bareboards2:

Dan Savage's open letter to Herman Cain:
Dear Herman,
If being gay is a choice, show us the proof. Choose it. Choose to be gay yourself. Show America how that's done, Herman, show us how a man can choose to be gay. Suck my dick, Herman. Name the time and the place and I'll bring my dick and a camera crew and you can suck me off and win the argument.
Very sincerely yours,
Dan Savage


lol. Best letter of the year.

Cain: "Gay Is A Choice" on The View

BoneRemake says...

>> ^bareboards2:

Dan Savage's open letter to Herman Cain:
Dear Herman,
If being gay is a choice, show us the proof. Choose it. Choose to be gay yourself. Show America how that's done, Herman, show us how a man can choose to be gay. Suck my dick, Herman. Name the time and the place and I'll bring my dick and a camera crew and you can suck me off and win the argument.
Very sincerely yours,
Dan Savage


Thats a real jack ass letter to write.

Yes I know you did not write it

Cain: "Gay Is A Choice" on The View

bareboards2 says...

Dan Savage's open letter to Herman Cain:

Dear Herman,

If being gay is a choice, show us the proof. Choose it. Choose to be gay yourself. Show America how that's done, Herman, show us how a man can choose to be gay. Suck my dick, Herman. Name the time and the place and I'll bring my dick and a camera crew and you can suck me off and win the argument.

Very sincerely yours,

Dan Savage

President Sheen schools hypochristian on Biblical homophobia

An Open Letter to Religious People

An Open Letter to Religious People

Sketch says...

I don't know a damn thing about you. I don't claim that you are anything like any other religious person in existence or in history, except for one thing - a belief in a supernatural higher power that there is no real basis for believing in. And in that very specific aspect of your personality, yes, I generalize you. No matter what kind of monster you yourself try to paint me as being, I just don't feel bad about that. Sorry that I can't catalog the personal details of billions of individual believers for anonymous online discussion purposes. I'm sure you are otherwise a wonderful human being and I certainly bear you no ill will.>> ^smooman:

>> ^Sketch:
You are right, I am not going to get into an argument about semantics with you, because that would make me a complete idiot. If it helps for me to compartmentalize it for you, then yes, where your beliefs in religion, superstition and the supernatural are concerned, I actively think that you are an idiot. Does that clear it up and make you feel better? Now you can go do rocket science, or brain surgery or any number of things that probably make you a great deal smarter than me in a possibly infinite minus 1 number of subjects in peace.>> ^smooman:
>> ^Sketch:
It's not, but if that's how you want to put words in my mouth, then so be it. Smart people can, and do, believe stupid shit sometimes. It happens.>> ^smooman:
>> ^Sketch:
For the record, in my estimation, if you are religious it does not necessarily mean that you are an idiot. But it does mean you believe in idiotic superstition.

"if you are religious it does not necessarily mean that you are an idiot. But it does mean you believe in things only idiots do, thus making you an idiot"
thats basically what you said


well it does actually. the modifier of superstitions, in this case, idiotic, explicitly implies that the believers of such are by association, idiots. This is further enforced by your choice of diction indicating that all persons of religious persuasions believe in what you would describe as "idiotic superstitions". this is merely a debate in semantics but.....whatever. i think i know what you were trying to say. you just said it in the most absolute, presumptuous, generalized way


its amusing to me that you like to think you know my beliefs and my deepest convictions, or superstitions as you call them, based on the mere fact that i am religious. cuz we're all the same right? perhaps to you. by that fact, it is you who are foolish, not me.....or are all atheists the same? (hint: theyre not, and neither are we religious types)
if its more comfortable for you to paint with such broad strokes, then by all means, keep using that sweeping brush, but dont expect me to admire your haste to color all religious peoples as bumbling neanderthals clinging to ancient fairy tales and superstitions that you vehemently insist we are.

but what do i know, im just a superstitious, religious, idiot

An Open Letter to Religious People

smooman says...

>> ^Sketch:

You are right, I am not going to get into an argument about semantics with you, because that would make me a complete idiot. If it helps for me to compartmentalize it for you, then yes, where your beliefs in religion, superstition and the supernatural are concerned, I actively think that you are an idiot. Does that clear it up and make you feel better? Now you can go do rocket science, or brain surgery or any number of things that probably make you a great deal smarter than me in a possibly infinite minus 1 number of subjects in peace.>> ^smooman:
>> ^Sketch:
It's not, but if that's how you want to put words in my mouth, then so be it. Smart people can, and do, believe stupid shit sometimes. It happens.>> ^smooman:
>> ^Sketch:
For the record, in my estimation, if you are religious it does not necessarily mean that you are an idiot. But it does mean you believe in idiotic superstition.

"if you are religious it does not necessarily mean that you are an idiot. But it does mean you believe in things only idiots do, thus making you an idiot"
thats basically what you said


well it does actually. the modifier of superstitions, in this case, idiotic, explicitly implies that the believers of such are by association, idiots. This is further enforced by your choice of diction indicating that all persons of religious persuasions believe in what you would describe as "idiotic superstitions". this is merely a debate in semantics but.....whatever. i think i know what you were trying to say. you just said it in the most absolute, presumptuous, generalized way



its amusing to me that you like to think you know my beliefs and my deepest convictions, or superstitions as you call them, based on the mere fact that i am religious. cuz we're all the same right? perhaps to you. by that fact, it is you who are foolish, not me.....or are all atheists the same? (hint: theyre not, and neither are we religious types)

if its more comfortable for you to paint with such broad strokes, then by all means, keep using that sweeping brush, but dont expect me to admire your haste to color all religious peoples as bumbling neanderthals clinging to ancient fairy tales and superstitions that you vehemently insist we are.


but what do i know, im just a superstitious, religious, idiot

An Open Letter to Religious People

Sketch says...

You are right, I am not going to get into an argument about semantics with you, because that would make me a complete idiot. If it helps for me to compartmentalize it for you, then yes, where your beliefs in religion, superstition and the supernatural are concerned, I actively think that you are an idiot. Does that clear it up and make you feel better? Now you can go do rocket science, or brain surgery or any number of things that probably make you a great deal smarter than me in a possibly infinite minus 1 number of subjects in peace.>> ^smooman:

>> ^Sketch:
It's not, but if that's how you want to put words in my mouth, then so be it. Smart people can, and do, believe stupid shit sometimes. It happens.>> ^smooman:
>> ^Sketch:
For the record, in my estimation, if you are religious it does not necessarily mean that you are an idiot. But it does mean you believe in idiotic superstition.

"if you are religious it does not necessarily mean that you are an idiot. But it does mean you believe in things only idiots do, thus making you an idiot"
thats basically what you said


well it does actually. the modifier of superstitions, in this case, idiotic, explicitly implies that the believers of such are by association, idiots. This is further enforced by your choice of diction indicating that all persons of religious persuasions believe in what you would describe as "idiotic superstitions". this is merely a debate in semantics but.....whatever. i think i know what you were trying to say. you just said it in the most absolute, presumptuous, generalized way

An Open Letter to Religious People

hpqp says...

>> ^bareboards2:

I guess I am ranting back. That's fair, isn't it?
[edit] I'm not a theist. I am a humanist who thinks that atheists can be as controlling and zealot as the worst theist. Hence the rant.

>> ^hpqp:
>> ^bareboards2:
I stopped watching this vid after 90 seconds because it was, well, idiotic.
.

I doubt the point of this vid (or the comic it stems from) is to convince theists, but rather to vent and let viewers vent by proxy. That's the impression I got anyway.



Fair enough.

An Open Letter to Religious People

bareboards2 says...

I guess I am ranting back. That's fair, isn't it?

[edit] I'm not a theist. I am a humanist who thinks that atheists can be as controlling and zealot as the worst theist. Hence the rant.


>> ^hpqp:

>> ^bareboards2:
I stopped watching this vid after 90 seconds because it was, well, idiotic.
.

I doubt the point of this vid (or the comic it stems from) is to convince theists, but rather to vent and let viewers vent by proxy. That's the impression I got anyway.

An Open Letter to Religious People

hpqp says...

>> ^bareboards2:

I stopped watching this vid after 90 seconds because it was, well, idiotic.
I find hard-core atheists to be just as irrational as hard-core religious types. Just as dogmatic and sure that they are correct.
Life is not black and white.
He actually nails it on the head. He states early on in the vid: "Your comforting little world view matter[s] more to you than the truth."
Well, yes. It does. That is why people are attracted to religion. It comforts them. "Truth" doesn't. They are scared. Humans evolved with this tendency.
You can rail and rail and rail all you want, but you can't "logic" people out of a trait that stayed with us as we evolved over thousands of years.
It is profoundly irrational to try to argue people out of religious faith.
Stick to keeping religion out of schools and out of laws. That is rational.
Invading people's hearts and minds and trying to control them is just what fanatically religious people do.
I love Hitchens and Sam Harris. I love their logic.
This vid? Blech.


I doubt the point of this vid (or the comic it stems from) is to convince theists, but rather to vent and let viewers vent by proxy. That's the impression I got anyway.



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