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Mitt Romney on Meet the Press with Tim Russert 12/16/07

deedub81 says...

In Part 2, Tim Russert asks Romney about religion, about race, and about his changed position on abortion rights.

In Part 3, Romney answers questions on Stem Cell research, gun control, and immigration.

In Part 4 the immigration questions continue. Questions on budget and taxes...

In Part 5 Romney is asked about his apparently moderate positions as Governor, his position about State mandates vs. Federal mandates, and Mike Huckabee's name calling.

Mike Huckabee Denies Evolution

nadabu says...

Zifnab, your title is atrocious. Huckabee didn't deny evolution. As far as i could tell, he only denied two things:

1) that "random selection" alone could produce us
2) that God had nothing to do with our existence

Anyone who equates the above to deny evolution is, well, far more bigoted than Mike Huckabee.

Mike Huckabee Denies Evolution

T-man says...

Mike Huckabee is the one running ads with "Christian Leader" scrolling below his portrait. He's bringing his faith into this race, not someone else. If his Christian faith has something to do with his leadership, then questions about his faith are absolutely fair.

Sounds like Mike wants it both ways.

Mike Huckabee Denies Evolution

Mitt Romney's speech: Faith in America

gwiz665 says...

"Freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom ... Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone."
That's not really true. Freedom works quite well without religion and religion works quite well with freedom. It's just that the two can co-exist.

I believe, or rather I've come to the conclusion based on the evidence presented to me, that Mitt Romney, or Mike Huckabee for that matter, are not fit to run the most powerful country in the world - much like George W. Bush has proven that he is not.

The candidate's religion should most definately sway your vote, because his religion will sway his actions.

Mitt Romney's speech: Faith in America

Farhad2000 says...

Hit home with Americans? Ha! Show me proof. Americans feel more connected to Mike Huckabee then fake man Romney.

Am sorry but the American public is generally more informed then to fall to the strategic pandering of someone who changed his position on every issue possible to garner as many Republican votes as he can. Romney's position is backed only by the best political consultants money can buy.

He spends millions just to hit recognition levels among the populace, while Mike Huckabee is able to do that without spending a dime.

Ken Silverstein's Making Mitt Romney: How to fabricate a conservative is required reading...

Furthermore, at a time of 2 prolonged wars, looming economic recession, failing foreign economic policy, destruction of civil liberties, why is religion even a central issue?

Has Bush's religious background meant he was more compassionate (not even talking wise, I'll let that slide) to the people who suffered in Katrina? Rising child health care costs? Those who are facing a crisis with their mortgage payments? This is not even mentioning the millions affected by war in Iraq and Afghanistan, the soldiers sent to fight a war without a clear objective and those who fell to torture programs...

EDIT: Qruel is right, this BS needs to be seen.

Senator McCain on Torture at CNN/YouTube debates

Farhad2000 says...

"I hope we can understand, my friends, that life is not 24 and Jack Bauer..."

Scott Horton and Andrew Sullivan comment...

"The moral clarity and vision of McCain’s answer was perfectly balanced by the bankruptcy of Romney’s. In the end, the former Massachusetts governor ducks by saying that he would turn to his ultimate guru for guidance: Cofer Black, the Vice Chair of Blackwater USA. Mr. Black is known for his bravado, including a pledge to the White House that he would send them Osama bin Laden’s head in a box packed with dry ice. But of course it was Mr. Black who failed in efforts to catch bin Laden and other al Qaeda leaders as they disappeared into the caves and ravines of Tora Bora. He moved from that high accomplishment to Blackwater, which is now engulfed in a series of scandals reflecting questionable management practices. Moreover, CIA officers complain that Black’s move to Blackwater entailed the privatization of vital national security relationships for personal profit, another hallmark of abuse in the Bush Administration.

McCain is turning for guidance to American military tradition and ethics. Romey on the other hand draws on Hollywood cartoons and adventurists. It’s quite a difference. And at the moment, it looks like the Republican base will take Chuck Norris over George Washington and Dwight Eisenhower any day.

Among the other candidates in the Republican field, Huckabee is clearly in the process of transforming his position on the torture question. He’s drawing closer to John McCain’s view with each passing debate. I’ll go out on a limb and say we’ll soon see three Republican candidates taking a clear-cut anti-torture position: John McCain, Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee. Not coincidentally, the first two are the Republican candidates who consistently draw the most support from the active-duty military. Huckabee is clearly intent on pitching more effectively to the same community."
- Scott Horton



"It's a defining issue and this was a defining moment. Romney's pathetic and despicable inability to say that he opposes waterboarding and that waterboarding is torture disqualifies him from the presidency, in my view. If we are going to recover from the profound moral disgrace of the Bush-Cheney torture regime, McCain and Paul are the only Republican candidates who should be considered for the job. I just wish McCain had taken on Giuliani as well. But God bless him. And God bless him for insisting that those who refuse to disown torture should actively support withdrawal from the Geneva Conventions. It's the only honest position to take. I saw the man defeated by Cheney and Addington in 2006 come back to fight again. God bless him."
- Andrew Sullivan

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Ron Paul - Iowa Straw Poll

Farhad2000 says...

Guys this is the Iowa Straw Poll. Which in the larger scheme of things is completely irrelevant (there is no straw and you pay $35 to vote, no one does that so candidates usually pay that by busing supporters, most come for the free food), this is why the most vocal groups consist mainly of activist conservatives than actual mainstream voters, the reason there is a tilt towards pro-life issues, gun control and reduction of taxes.

I think Ron Paul doesn't really have a chance, Mike Huckabee came off more of a winner then Mitt Romeny who basically bought the poll by sinking nearly 2 million dollars into adverts, tents, food and buses to garner as many people as possible.



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