TO CATHOLICPRIEST
Excellent post.

Julian Jaynes proposed in his controversial 1977 book 'The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind' that in pre-Homeric times (before the historian Homer) people did not have the highly developed minds that we take for granted today.

What we call the 'ego' today was for these ancient people what they called a 'god'.

When danger threatened suddenly the god's voice was heard in the individual's mind. This function of the mind has since evolved and become integrated into what Jung called the 'ego'.

Science has nothing to say about the origin of consciousness, aside from Daniel Dennett's reductionist ideas which I don't accept. Religion on the other hand SHOULD have something to say about origin of spirit/consciousness but it has become so sidetracked over the millenia with social control that it has completely lost its way.

Religion in the ancient, shamanic, spiritual, natural sense would be very welcome in the world right now, and would be welcomed by every individual on this planet.

Religion gets a bad rap because it has tended over the last 3-4000 years toward social control, no matter which of the religions you choose to look at. This is why the seperation of church and state is VITAL.

If any one of us were to go back in time and go into Jesus's church, we would be going in there to LEARN, to learn about ourselves, our minds, our consciousness, our spiritual centre. When we 'graduated' we would not need to go back, and we would be informed and learned enough to teach others.

Science teaches. Religion controls.

upvote for, Eisenstein.....Vlad was sure a prick, wasn't he?

Kim Jung Il...Dangerous, sociopath, Prick.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ? Cocksucker, Idiot, dangerous, killer.
King Abdullah? Asshole, enabler.
Bashar al-Assad? Coward,cocksucker, killer.
Hugo Chavez? Coward, president-wannabe, asshole, killer.
King Fahd?-Evil cocksucker, Satan would be proud-
Than Shwe of Burma-evil midget dick.
Saparmurad Niyazov of Turkmenistan? Narcissist, asshole, killer.
Muammar Gaddafi?-dangerous little camel-lover.
(really has a nice pool for his cammies, though)
Alexander Lukashenko of Belarus?-Stalin-lover, carbuncle, human waste.
G.W.Bush-Dangerous, connected, from a family of privileged, pricks and assholes.

Please pray for their immediate deaths.

Theo's dead on, the creeping creepage is what you scream while you can....all for running to the hills and preparing for it in the meantime....

and yes, proud to be here, in America....the American thing is an extra perk, cause' one had respect for moments in the history of the country, when there was some hope and victories.....

and, as always, The empire Never Dies-few folks ever figure this out....P.K Dick, Carl Jung, and other, assorted associates and adepts of the gnostic vibe...tried to point out, the predictable and mystical way of all flesh...

There's the herd, the herders act according to their nature, so does the herd

oh and have always maintained, that if it looks like shit, smells like the same, etc., it is...

Can we not all agree that regimes that affect the psyche of an entire country, (N.Korea, Iran) affect all the world? And that any regime fascist/socialist is by very nature a piece of unilateral dog-shit for her peoples?? Then why not utterly destroy by the roots the leader's grip on that nation for the sake of the future of her peoples?? Seems insane to me, that Kim Jung Il is allowed to breathe fucking air??? Shit, give me a missile and a window, and I'll take on the karma....the innocents caught in the crossfire, are developmentally disabled, unfortunately, for life. What is worse, is what it will all come down to.....making choices for the lesser of evils...

Iraq and Bush were a clusterfuck in the making for decades....Al Queda??? She would not be shit if not for the CIA.....wars could not be fought so wonderfully, if all nations did not take part in supplying arms....so Russia? France? Germany? etc.....yeah, white folks have fucked some shit up haven't they?? Destroy the ultra-wealthy, insulated, and hidden white few, and you may get somewhere??


We all know how this will end don't we....All the worse parts of the Bible, not because yer a Christian or not, but because humanity is as predictable as the fucking rain.

This is similar to the "Solon" ad that was done a while back.

http://www.videosift.com/video/Cool-commercial-for-solar-power

Same agency maybe?

Edit: The wind clip was done by "Nordpol" from Hamburg/Germany (http://www.nordpol.com) and the solar power one was done by Jung von Matt (also Hamburg)

The wind clip also was a runner up for the 2007 Lion at Cannes, but was beaten in the end by Ogilvy & Mathers Dove "Evolution"

Yeah, man, let's feed these folks, kill Kim Jung Dill-weed,and get these folks up to speed with the 21st century!!

Fuck the shock value, lets shock jungill outta the north, so the north and south, can wake the fuck up!!

jesus fuck me, kim jung il's corporate model for the year new thousand....

"You chose to disrespect this community by making your hatred for me public today."

My point exactly, your inability to derive meaning from words is my beef-You seem to desire the hatred you accuse me of, and I have no ill will towards the poster....THE posts are the target of my derision....how can I hate someone I have never met...I will tell you, because I know myself way better than you perceive me

I can't. Quite the contrary, I really don't think I am capable of hate, not even self-hate-It's freedom, really. Freedom from the predictable action/reaction responses most domesticated primates, in this twisted and beautiful paradigm, But now, to qualify all that with...admission of guilt to the action/reaction response: we all still suffer from it, I am no stranager to it, however, i have become adept at spotting it, calling what it is, and moving on to bigger and better things-
"prepared to deal with users like yourself."-divisive, misleading, inflammatory rhetoric, the same flavor of the crap I see, you post!

"We disposed of community members that personally attacked and threatened other members of the community, it was a no brainer."

asinine!!-this precludes discussion, reflection, and reasonable solutions with a view to self-actualization....works for the puck heads i guess-

again, your perception of a personal attack is misguided and delusional....cult of selfish

"I hope only positives come out of this intervention."

me too....that you will crawl out of your fantasy world, and broaden your horizons , with a view to actualization...ala Jung.....the world is bigger than pathetic political satire, and bandwagonizm.....

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter." - Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922...., if Hitler said it, that says it all...but wasn't Jesus more like Hitler??? After all, not only was he a fighter...he was a[fill in blanks to make you feel good here]....what about a symbol??? Hay-zeus and Hitler are symbolic.....ever here of Carl Jung, read that shit for a religion to follow, pretty close to Buddhism....and so it goes, we associate that which is aberrant or beautiful filtered through the lens of perception....a glass darkly?....Philip K. Dick said it, so did the Apostle Paul.....what do YOU think is wrong with this picture???

"having a brick wall handy to bang your head against for relief"-


love his too, how true also of sporting events, the fans and fetishes, all relief valves of societies contrived and controlled...Hitler was a madman, no, he tunnel visioned himself down the ultimate path of any sentient beings' destruction, who has no governor...oh, and he was the ultimate asshole.......

So...to hang on Hitler, do you make an assumption or read between the words????.....Propaganda of the kind that is broadcast for mass consumption today is the Antichrist in all her splendor.....Babylon, baby, fill yer' head with Lucky Charms and you'll be doing yourself a better dose.......

This vids an example of
Interchangable pundits of self, expressing the current paradigm in familiar, cabalistic, semantic bleats, ....an editorial, fer crissakes.......

This film is so utterly twisted, the collective unconcious in Jung's nightmares of a childhood in an alternative unverse....this dame is from the bizarro world....

I love Carl Jung, I always felt like he was a grandfather that reminded me of the better things in life grounded in reality. Sigmund Freud was like a dirty uncle always trying to get me to talk about my mum.

Fortunately for the "irreligious correct" honor among thieves applies to pirates and not crack-heads. This is a bit more insidious than some bible thumping by the confused and sincere,...this symbolism will go so much deeper than a Christian proving a point to an atheist, (not that the atheist would admit it had happened) this Nation, is about symbols, just as Jung's collective unconscious is about old- timey imprints.
This guys show-boating, even heart-felt and sincere as it probably is, is a sign of retrograde government, at its best!

This guy is in a similar position that that well-meaning Negro from T-3 was, when he was sooooo excited about the Terminator's little microprocessor.

There's always the possibility that this sensible observation is a tad bit askew, but it goes a long way to explaining the "anything goes" attitude of the people of the United States, from the last few generations...

I am more and more convinced 'shroomy is just a liberal plant trying to make wingnuts sound as stupid as humanly possible, but still being able to type on a computer.

I love the 'i live in a bush-mentality bubble' types. Reality doesn't matter, just their impression of what they read on Rush's blog and freepress. How would anyone think that NK would not use a nuke if they had one. (a) what do they have to lose? heck, jim jung probably would like some civilian casualties, that would be less mouths to feed. I mean seriously millions of desperate starving people. It's a miracle he is still in power. (b) he lobbed a missle towards Japan that could have hit hawaii. Sure it didn't but it could have landed in Japan, west coast USA, who knows... But that didn't stop him from just launching it in our direction.

Maybe everyone in the US will become victorycrats when tax cuts are repealed, and 9/11 commission recommendations are implemented, and student loan rates are halved. That should take victorycrats about 2 weeks to do.