100% agree. Too much pussy footing around ( not accusing Tyson here just in general )
The bullshit fairy tales have got to go
and guess what ? There's no Father Christmas or tooth fairy either.
There is no equivalency in the different sides. One is just plain lies and bullshit. The other is objective truth.
I have never heard a religious person gently explain they a religious and like to tolerate science, they just start screaming 'Praise Jeebus'
For fucks sake, even religious morons use a cell phone, hospital, electricity, cars etc etc So Fucking Dumb

Well, at least this girl can sing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aJ7DoIYnBQ&feature=related

it seems like the singer in your video may be inspired by this one??

what is up with these videos??
>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

Holy shitting dick nipples.. @_@ it's contagious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLWjJtmndho
This is the worst kind of virus EVAR!

http://videosift.com/video/Father-Christmas-F-cked-My-Pu-y-Christmas-pu-y-song#comment-1122426

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
Look what your ex-wife is doing with her alimony

http://videosift.com/video/Father-Christmas-F-cked-My-Pu-y-Christmas-pu-y-song

Look what your ex-wife is doing with her alimony

http://videosift.com/video/Father-Christmas-F-cked-My-Pu-y-Christmas-pu-y-song

looks like one of your ho's has gone and made a christmas album

http://videosift.com/video/Father-Christmas-F-cked-My-Pu-y-Christmas-pu-y-song

I would avoid "child abuse" because it has connotations.

Any philosophy is just your view of things and you stamp that onto your children, and religion is an easy target right now so obviously people will say "abuse". But they're just stamping their own philosophy onto their children. Then you could also call people out for teaching children to "be kind to one another" etc.

Teaching ANY kind of philosophy to children (be kind to others, father christmas, tooth fairy, be generous, etc.) could also be construed as abuse in that case. In the end you'd have to teach your child nothing at all.

>> ^Irishman:
Nobody CHOOSES their culture. The kids are born into it, they believe in it as strongly as a western child believes in Father Christmas.


One can reject a sick culture. Manipulation of the children is just one disgusting aspect of how Hamas manipulates it's own people, and world opinion.

Gaza used to be a part of Egypt. When Egypt attacked Israel in 1967 it was defeated, and Isreal occupied Gaza. In the 1979 negociations Israel tried to cede control to Egypt. Egypt wanted no part of it, considered the occupants to be riffraff, and preferred to leave them stranded in the cramped zone.

It's funny how as much as their fellow Muslims claim to care about the Palistinians (who share a culture and ethnicity) they will not allow them to naturalize or makes homes.

Nobody CHOOSES their culture. The kids are born into it, they believe in it as strongly as a western child believes in Father Christmas.

The father of the culture that you lay blame to is Israel, the mother of this culture is America.

Extremist political culture is born of oppression, just like it was in Ireland and all over the world.

>> ^alien_concept:
You try telling a kid from the day they're old enough to understand that Father Christmas is bullshit and see what happens. They'll cry that everyone else gets presents from Santa that they don't, they'll tell all the other kids he's not real and ruin the fantasy for them and livid parents will ensure you never hear the end of it and that your kid is a bastard who will never be invited to parties again.


Oh, horsecrap

I've got two kids, one 21 years old now and the other 16, been there and done that and it didn't turn out a thing like that. I never lied to them and as far as I know they never blew it for kids who did believe. They were never deprived of presents or anything either, I'm not sure how knowing the difference between real or not implies that they can't participate in the celebration anyway. We always did.

When they were little we never brought it up, they decided on their own that they had doubts and when they asked we told them the truth and told them that they shouldn't ruin it for those who did believe. Same with religion, we aren't a religious family but you won't find us in anyone else's face about it unless it's in self defense. Start preaching at and judging us and they might wish they hadn't but we aren't out to convert the world. Just to be left alone.

The outcome will always depend on the individuals involved and the approach, it's not a simple "this way is good and the other bad" issue. Both can turn out just fine.

You try telling a kid from the day they're old enough to understand that Father Christmas is bullshit and see what happens. They'll cry that everyone else gets presents from Santa that they don't, they'll tell all the other kids he's not real and ruin the fantasy for them and livid parents will ensure you never hear the end of it and that your kid is a bastard who will never be invited to parties again.

Basically, I hate christmas too, I really fucking despise it. But it is magical for kids, and it is something that they have that is just about being a child, being able to believe in something like that is such a sign of innocence, and that shouldn't be taken away from them. If it was going to damage them i'm sure we'd have heard more about it. Never heard of a kid needing therapy because he has deep rooted trust issues. It's almost like, when you tell them they understand why. Because it's fun for them as long as it lasts.

Oh, and the most important reason to lie to your kids about Santa. Bribery - the handiest tool a parent has!

Merry bloody Christmas all