>> ^videosiftbannedme:
When the hell did Minnesota become the bastion of bullshit-detecting, no-nonsense free thinkers? (Not knocking Minnesota mind you...)
If I ever hear of a Ventura/Franken ticket, I think I would nut right then and there.


The movie Fargo was simply a decoy film; we WANTED you to think we were all idiots. The best part? Fargo is in North Dakota. Ha! Eh

A lot of niggaz stepped up to the bad man
Chest bucked out with your head wide open
Hopin, to spot, a chip in this frame
I lived and died by the burnin flame
of the OK Corral, Cowboy style
From the Quarters on down to Colorado's
Big niggaz from uptown, ridin into Tahoe's
Saloon settin, kids is walkin round
drinkin whiskey and scotch, strictly out of shotglasses
Lookin screwfaced at the next nigga who passes
There's women in garter belts and ciggarettes
And on the side there's the price game
Niggaz is playin the price game
Indian Red, was bangin niggaz in the head
With his man Apache Joe, they take your money off the floor
They side-bettin for a better, they makin cheddar
That tribal shit is work ya sound the wompom drums
Cause my Indian man'sll break your great dick, UHH
Walk in the New York terrority
On the back of a tree, there's a picture of me
It says I'm lawless, flawless, a hustler plus gun rustler
Wanted in Carolina, for sellin some of New York's finer
Marshal Cooper say he want me, Marshal Cooper gotta get me
Marshal Cooper say beat me, Marshal Cooper better wet me
I gather alla y'all, all of my trusted men
All of my baddest niggaz, niggaz that's quickest with the triggers
There's distrubin news on the wire
That my dome piece is done sent to piece out for hire
I ain't goin down over no money exchange
You late for say I, who reigns as King of the Range?
In this land of wildness
Yo you better pack your vest
In the streets there's nothin but crime
So you best to watch your behind...
Meanwhile saloon settin is back to full swing
Bar's gettin money people doin they thing
There's strictly Boss Players with this kid named Minnesota
As women start to fill up, turn the notch on the grill up
And add mo' stakes to the house banks for gamblers
Half-pipes to scramblers, and free for Wild Cowboys
You never bring decoys if you wanna make real nouse
The bigger the stick, the bigger the fire
I never hit a man in the back, a coward acts like that
Lay out my black hat cause I feel like the bad man
Who on the rise, the D's to Manhattan
Let's walk the thirty paces on the Now Rule races
Oh it's the Marshal Cooper, and I love how he doin this
Women sayin don't get hurt, and I ain't plannin on it
Ten steps taken as I hit the blam factor
His dick to act up, was death the benefactor
Leave him twitchin in the dirt like Cousin Harold from the Menace
I'm in this to win this on the great wide trail
I'm ten times as bad as John Wayne, could ever be
Plus I'm down with the Indian, and need high to get the shit again
I'm responsible for that body in the alley
I'll Louisiana Purchase that ass with with Remi's spurs
and hard shots of Tequila, where the dancin girls
Let's get right as the story unfurls
Piano man keep playin, keep them keys bangin
Single man get three graves there's gonna be a hangin
Now this right here ain't for the youth to see
A grown man assed out swingin from a tree
In this land of wildness
Yo you better pack your vest
In the streets there's nothin but crime
So you best to watch your behind
Joe Tex was the biggest hombre from the projects
Had all the work locked down, so he thought
But he drank and got loose lipped, let a lot of news slip
Stripped of his game and got his self murdered
Thoughts of him are passin like the buffalo
Got his self rocked in the ninety-six brand new Acura
Niggaz said it was lightning BLAOW blew out the back mirror
Hah, youknowhatI'msayin? Dig, check it out
They say that Cowboys never die they just ride off into the sun
A little tale from Sadat X of how the WORLD was won
Check it out, remember this
Gun-slingers, dead-ringers with presidents
Is found tied with no explanation of how they died
Yo the great Sadat X, the High Plains Drifter
No question
In this land of wildness
Yo you better pack a vest
In the streets there's nothin but crime
So you best to watch your behind

In reply to this comment by Bluebeard:
They seem to be trying quite hard to be camoflauged. I'm no expert, but wouldn't the camera crew constantly standing 2ft away from them give them away somewhat?

Don't you know they're the decoys?

I'm going to offend some people here but I have to.

This guy has it all, pro choice and anti 2nd amendment.

Just because I support the 2nd amendment does not make me a religious conservative. I support the constitution, what does that make me?

And know I wont explain it to you naysayers out there, this guy is just the same as the other guy if not worse. He is "A peace loving decoy ready for retaliation." (-Dirty harry gorillaz).

He says he is pro gun, yet he supports the ban in Chicago, and in the District of Columbia even though they struck it down. Yet it is still illegal to own any automatic or semi auto gun? That's every gun except revolvers and lever actions and pump shot guns. Not to mention the class 3 weapons, that are classified assault. That usually means any weapon with a "bayonet lug", recoil suppressors, or heat plating (commonly seen on shotguns particularly the Spas series.)

http://www.popandsports.com/?p=1118

"Barack Obama's Gun-Related Votes The U.S. Senate Debated:
Obama
Voted:
Supporting concealed carry for citizens10
Anti-gun
Banning many common semi-automatic firearms11
Anti-gun
Disallowing self-defense in towns where guns are banned12
Anti-gun
Imposing one handgun a month restrictions13
Anti-gun
Requiring lock up your safety trigger locks14
Anti-gun
Protecting gun dealers from frivolous lawsuits15
Anti-gun
Outlawing gun confiscations during a national emergency16
Pro-gun
Squelching the free speech rights of gun owners17
Anti-gun
Restricting the interstate sales of firearms18
Anti-gun
Repealing the gun ban in Washington, DC19
Anti-gun

4 James Oliphant and Michael J. Higgins, "Court to hear gun case," Chicago Tribune, November 20, 2007.
5 Illinois State Senate, vote on SB 2165 (41-16), May 25, 2004.
6 Obama says, "National legislation will prevent other states' flawed concealed-weapons laws from threatening the safety of Illinois residents." David Mendell, "Democratic hopefuls vary a bit on death penalty," Chicago Tribune, February 20, 2004.
6 Obama says, "National legislation will prevent other states' flawed concealed-weapons laws from threatening the safety of Illinois residents." David Mendell, "Democratic hopefuls vary a bit on death penalty," Chicago Tribune, February 20, 2004.
7 See the Gun Owners of America fact sheet at http://www.gunowners.org/fs0404.htm.
8 John Chase, "Keyes, Obama are far apart on guns; Views on assault weapons at odds," Chicago Tribune, September 15, 2004.
9 Senators Chuck Schumer and John Kerry had both cosponsored S. 1431 in 2003, a bill that would have banned any semi-auto shotgun that also contained a pistol grip, which the bill defined as "a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip." According to that definition, just about any semi-automatic shotgun would be banned.
10 See supra note 6.
11 About the so-called "assault weapons" ban, Obama says, "I believe we need to renew -- not roll back -- this common sense gun law." See supra note 8.
12 See supra note 5.
13 As a state senator, "Obama regularly supported gun-control measures, including a ban on semiautomatic 'assault weapons' and a limit on handgun purchases to one a month." "Obama Record May be Gold Mine for Critics," Associated Press, January 17, 2007.
14 On July 28, 2005, Senator Obama voted for a provision requiring gun dealers to include the sale of a lock-up-your-safety device with every handgun sold. The amendment, offered by Sen. Herb Kohl (D-WI), passed by a vote of 70-30. The provision amended the gun makers' protection act (S. 397).
15On July 29, 2005, Senator Obama voted against S. 397, a bill that was designed to put an end to the frivolous lawsuits that were threatening to put many gun dealers out of business. While an argument could be made that a pro-gun Senator might vote against this bill because it contained a lock-up-your-safety provision (see supra note 14), the fact that Obama voted in favor of that trigger lock amendment (but against the overall bill) indicates his real animus against helping gun dealers protect themselves from the anti-gun lawsuits that were aimed at driving them into bankruptcy.
16 On July 13, 2006, Sen. Obama voted for Emergency Powers language that saw only 16 of the most ardent anti-gun senators vote against it. The amendment provides that no money can be used by federal agents to confiscate firearms during a declared state of emergency. The amendment was added to the Department of Homeland Security appropriations bill (HR 5441).
17 On January 18, 2007, Senator Obama voted against a pro-gun amendment to strike language in S. 1 that would infringe upon the free speech rights of groups like Gun Owners of America. The amendment, which passed, struck requirements that would have required GOA to monitor and report on its communications with its members, and could easily have led to government demands for GOA's membership list (a.k.a. registration).
18 Obama has frequently made statements which indicate that he would restrict the interstate sale of firearms. For example, he told the NAACP that, "We've got to make sure that unscrupulous gun dealers aren't loading up vans and dumping guns in our communities, because we know they're not made in our communities. There aren't any gun manufacturers here, right here in the middle of Detroit." Senator Barack Obama, at the NAACP Presidential Primary Forum, July 12, 2007.
19 See supra note 4. " Quoted from a (I Know absolutely conservative site ).

http://www.gop.com/images/research/062608Research2.pdf (this is a PDF) - its hard to find stuff that isn't blatantly republican.

All i am saying is do a little digging on this. I don't want warmongering republican or a lair democrat for president.

I have know problem with commonsense law, but don't lie about your record. I support background checks and the tests needed to get a CCW.

Get this, in some states all you need is hunters education can get a CCW.

This argument has nothing to do with pro choice or pro life in which case I am indifferent.

Why is the plight of blacks under slavery in the United States always compared to the civil rights of homosexuals? Is it really apples and oranges?
Why is the focus always placed on ancillary issues, rather than a cure to the real ills and evils of the world regarding empire?
Wonder me this: We're Africans in the 15th and 16th century, running free in the jungles of the motherland, confused regarding homosexuality? The numbers in the ranks of heteros to homos we're likely, relatively dissimilar as today and marriage, was not a Judeo-Christian construct with guidelines written in some book for them-while not ostracizing the few in the many tribes spread all over her continent, they were still placed in a mystical box, and given a special place within the tribal setting....but NOT joined in union with others like them rather, legend, superstition, and mystical positions were created for these, the very few with respect to the rest of the tribe. It has always been thus.
There are much more important things worthy of discussion with regard to the most pressing woes of the world, thank you nightly news, for distracting the masses, once again, with more Decoy Craptacular....and thank you, homosexuals, for coming out just in time to distract the western world, with more diversion-Being gay in America, is not the same as being Black in America. Being black in America is not the same as being black in Europe, either.... just as being a slave in the US, during slavery, was nothing like being a slave in Roman times-

It is a dead certainty, that there were less gay folks per-capita in the United States in the 1750's, than there are today, and the reason has nothing to do with not as many gay people being born, either.

No mystery, that a tool would be used with another to achieve an end result-Gore is a mouthpiece like Obama, two peas as it were.

Gore is a hollowman, just like Obama-No agenda or vision of his own, he's a Beltway lamprey, Obama is the Uncle Tom Boy Friday of all the special interest that got him where he is today....poised to be inserted into the mainframe of US Government, so the script of the Elite can be eloquently delivered, to the braying masses.

People, people. Can you see the forest while standing on old growth?? This shit has been systematic, ever since Ike's farewell address-To say anything about these cretins than the inconvenient truth, is verbal masturbation on a grand scale.
Can we use Obama as a decoy to hunt for Reptiles???

It's Juno Reactor and Don Davis together. From the Matrix sound track.

The new PAC-3 and soon to come ABL are actually really effective, if I remember correctly the new PAC-3 is at 89-91%. However, it is only meant to defend against small scale launch, like a couple of SRBM/SLBM, IMRBM, and maybe one ICBM. It's really really hard to fend off ICBMs, esp when some one can launch more than say 3 or 4. These days all ICBMs cantains about 10-20 warheads and all are MIRV(Multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle) So that means the system will need to track up to 80 warheads, and wardheads will not only flare as seen in the video, it will also deploy counter measures and decoys makes it even harder to track. I am not opposed to the system, it's a great safty net against "rouge states" that are willing to launch 1or2 warheads that they have for an all out attack. But like theo47 said how can we be sure that it won't start the "Arms race" again and that some future "warmonger" president won't use it as a tool to start a nuclear war.

Translated lyrics from http://www.mognet.net/artisttranslation.php?id=1094&translation=english :

Fish Fight! Fish Fight! Fish Fight! Fish Fight!

I can live in a lake or wherever, I am a natural freshwater fish! I fight with my body
A Oh! A Oh! A Oh! A Oh! A Oh!

Bass fishing is a trend, carp fishing has begun and ended; children, remember this well!
A Oh! A Oh! A Oh! A Oh! A Oh!

It's alright if the cold rain gets your cheek wet, look down to the bottom and see
Dance dance dance dance with me! Let's swim!

A carp is a living thing, and you shouldn't eat it; unrefined and smelly fish! fish! fish!

You wash a crap, and then you eat it as sweetened boiled fish, and carp sushi

In times when you cry, those in the water don't understand; so cry with all your might
A Oh! A Oh! A Oh! A Oh! A Oh!

Even if the cold rain falls upon your heart, look down the bottom and see
Dance dance dance dance with me! Let's swim!

A carp is a living thing, and you shouldn't eat it; unrefined and smelly fish! fish! fish!

My brunch is young bees and earthworms; lure fishing, decoy fishing, they're uncalled for

Char, Bitterling,Surf Smelt,Mottled Shovel-Nosed Frog, Rainbow Trout, Black Bass, Millet, Snake Head Mullet, Chub, Trout
Haya, haya, haya! We are friends, the freshwater fish!

Flounder, Yellowtail Tuna, Parrot Fish, Ocean Sun Fish, Mackerel, Sea Robin, Red Snapper, Striped Jack, Alfonsino, Scorpion Fish
Eat, eat, eat! They are the major saltwater fish!

Someday I'll have a high-grade brother too: Tiger Globefish, fatty yellow-tail, it's a piece of cake! It's my turn to be scientifically dissected
The scales, the back fin, the bladder

A carp is a living thing, and you shouldn't eat it; unrefined and smelly fish! fish! fish!

You wash a crap, and then you eat it as sweetened boiled fish, and carp sushi (And pickle it!)

Someday I too will be revolving sushi; I want to revolve, I want to be seen, fish! fish! fish! (round and round)

Handrolled, battle ship rolled, winding, pinched; anything as you like it, you decide

Fish Fight! Fish Fight! Fish Fight! Fish Fight!

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How about a dirigible decoy?

Clip from the 1995 colorized version of the 1962 war film epic The Longest Day produced by Daryl F Zanuck, featuring an early appearance from a young Sean Connery, right before the success of Dr. No, also features Kenneth More.

* During the filming of the landings at Omaha Beach, the American soldiers appearing as extras didn't want to jump off the landing craft into the water because they thought it would be too cold. Robert Mitchum, who played General Norm Cota, finally got disgusted with them and jumped in first, at which point the soldiers had no choice but to follow his example.

* The Rupert paradummies used in the film were far more elaborate and lifelike than those actually used for the decoy parachute drop (Operation Titanic) which were actually just canvas or burlap sacks filled with sand. In the real operation six Special Air Service soldiers jumped with the dummies and played recordings of loud battle noises to distract the Germans.

* At $10,000,000, this film was the most expensive black-and-white film made until 1993, when Schindler's List was released. (Source: Turner Classic Movies).

* The bagpiper is the same person who participated in the real assault on D-Day.

A few comments of my own on this discussion.
The light poles are less of an impediment than a telephone pole. They are mounted on snap bolts so they break off easy. This is to protect drunk drivers, or something like that. I've seen a small pickup knock one 8 feet with a collision that was only about 30mph. As to the perpendicular position of a pole, go play pool. There are far more variables in this equation than 3. It's position is nothing special, or breaking of physics, you just haven't factored in enough of the MANY variables involved. It's easier to predict which side of a die will come up than the landing position of lightpole struck by a plane.

Lack of armed response. Wow, this isn't world war 3 with intercept planes in the air ready to respond. It takes time. And that's after you realize it might be a good idea to do so. Hijackers tend to fly off with planes, not use them as cruise missiles. Everybody thought they are going to land somewhere. Even after one crashed, it was most likely assumed to be incompetence of the highjackers, and not intentional. And why intercept a hijacked plane? You aren't going to shoot it down, and radar keeps track of it very nicely. Just send police to where it lands. There is another factor that people forget about. Shock. The first one hit, and everybody where I worked was shocked. It was a tragedy that struck at all of us. But that's all we though it was. Then the second one hit. People were dumbfounded. And I worked with intelligent problem solving people. Over half the people just stood there staring at the video feeds. Everybody was numb. There was an air of disbelief. It was as if there was a vague hope that suddenly the picture would shift to a reporter in a clown suit saying "Gotcha! April Fools!". But that didn't happen, and people eventually started leaving like shellshocked sheep. The next day, only about a third of us showed up for our shifts. Nobody said a thing.

Now as to the skipping of the whitehouse and nailing the pentagon. I don't know, but here is a possible guess. Ever try picking out landmarks at a couple of hundred miles an hour? It's a major pain. When the image has resolved enough to identify most things, it's too late to do anything about it. That's why military bases have old busted planes as decoys on the runway. To someone travelling a couple hundred mph, they look like valid targets. Now just imagine the scum who missed the whitehouse, he's probably ticked, and may even assume he can't get a second chance at that one. Then he sees a unique piece of architecture that can be easily identified from a very long distance, the pentagon. (There aren't many huge pentagon shaped buildings on this planet, it's easy to spot.) He probably decided target of opertunity. After all, the white house just has a four year bozo, the pentagon has lots of military top brass. If it was a wargame, I know which one would be worth more points, and it's not a politicians penthouse.

Ok, now as to the tower supports failing. Let's look at the explanation. Under fire conditions, those supports would not be compromised. But it is believed that when the plane struck and ripped through the building, it shredded the insulation on some of the supports. That sounds very likely to me, I've seen things get hit with less force than that, and have the same effect. Look at some trees hit by cars, notice the missing bark? Ok, now jet fuel burns hot, for that matter, so do most apartments. Bet that sucker hit flashover point and all that stuff. It didn't have to melt the supports, it just had to weaken them. A fire that doesn't even make the metal glow can cause that to happen. Just take out a couple of supports and stress the building, and that will start a cascade failure. Like knocking over dominoes. A few fail, increases stress on remaining, they fail, that makes it worse, the rest go. It can happen very fast. Once a critical threshold is exceeded, the rest often go in seconds. If you watch the video of the collapse, that's basically what happened.

Eye witnesses. Slightly better than asking a psychic, but less entertaining. It's amazing how unreliable they are. That's one of the big reasons why we use forensics. I trust the cameras a whole lot more, and with very good reason.

The government is hiding something? Well, they are always hiding something. Sometimes it's intentional, other times it's somebody that just doesn't know. And don't forget standard lack of communication and incompetence. Often government stuff assumes the less they say, the less likely they can be blamed. With regards to all the fingerpointing afterwards, well as they say, hindsight is 20/20, so stop looking out your a## at past events. You can always say someone must have realized it, but didn't. Gee, george has a report 1 on his desk, frank has report 3 in his filing cabinet, jane has read the summaries of reports 3 and 5. While Mary has report 2 sitting in her inbox, and report 5 is being faxed to george right now. Ok, now who knows what the heck is going on? Nobody. Two weeks later, who's fault is it that 5 sequential reports were filed and not acted upon, even though they spell out several low importance events that only add up to trouble when all five are together and in sequence? You don't like it, well, neither does the intelligence community, but it's what they have to work with. Those I've met from that area, have mostly been accusatory paranoid creeps. (Some were actually human.) Even so, it's not reasonable to have expected them to predict something like what happened. However, the acts of the politicians afterwards is utterly reprehensible and has definitely earned them an entire wing in the hall of shame.

One thing back to the one highjackers flying. Some have said it was absolutely fantastic flying. Well, that also assumes that what happened is exactly what he wanted to happen, and that he was a pilot who had some expectation of living through it, as well as keeping his plane intact. Those two conditions don't apply to the highjacker, and we really don't know what he expected to happen. To bring up pool again, I suck at it. I've made some shots that have had master players congratulate me. Too bad those shots were nothing like what I expected the balls to do. The praise wasn't deserved, it was an unintentional event. That is probably a case with the highjackers flying 'proficiency'.

I expect this has put a few wrinkles in some tin-foil hats, and has a few people thinking. Just remember, nobody alive is in full possession of the facts of those events, so much of what has been said is just guesswork, possibly even educated guesswork, but still guesswork.