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When this was shown on David Attenboroughs prog they said the whale had beached, been town out and dropped into deep water. Interesting vid though.

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*dupeof=http://www.videosift.com/video/Giant-Bat-Eating-Centipede-David-Attenborough

http://www.videosift.com/video/Giant-Bat-Eating-Centipede-David-Attenborough

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>> ^JackieOh:
Dupe? http://www.videosift.com/video/David-Attenborough-and-the-magnifice
nt-Sloth
Although this one is better quality


A dupe is a dupe - if the video quality is better (I agree, it is) then you can update your original post :]

Dupe? http://www.videosift.com/video/David-Attenborough-and-the-magnificent-Sloth

Although this one is better quality

One day, David Attenborough will die, and in his breast pocket will be a letter describing how he pranked the world with fake videos of wondrous creatures like the lyre bird and pootoo.

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I have a lot of rants too. But I don't consider what you're saying a rant. Before I even respond, I want you to know I respect where you're coming from. I appreciate the fact that you took the time to write and, even though we disagree, I personally believe you have every right to your beliefs and no one should give you any grief over it. I have no intention of trying to convert you or anyone else here.

If you want to discuss this further or hear what I have to say about it then let me know. If it's just blowing off steam that's fine too.


In reply to this comment by chtierna:
Well, there are many different ways to view God, which is always a problem when trying to have a discussion about it, because something you say can always be refuted by "thats not the kind of God I believe in !" I think in the video clip I submitted Attenborough is simply against those religious who cannot see God as allowing something bad, but want to credit him for everything that is good.

I used to be a silent atheist. Let anyone think what they want and believe in their God. But in the last 5 years Ive seen how religious people actively try to change things in their surroundings based on what ancient books tells them and it frightens me. It scares me shitless. And it makes me angry. I dont have the same kind of respect for religion as I had once because I think the practice of religion forces unwanted changes on innocent parties.

The way women are treated in muslim countries. The way gay people are treated and loathed all around. Trying to get creationism taught in schools. "No, this is not my religion, their religion is to blame, their way of practicing religion is to blame, they havent read the Book and understood it properly". I dont accept that. I think religion in itself is to blame. I think it limits the minds of the people who practice it by providing answers to the hard questions in form of dogma and inserting a ready-made world view to be adopted by the follower.

All the energy of curiousity gets transformed into a sense of righteous belief, splitting the world up into fractions of right and wrong, black and white, more and more absolute lines drawn. And how do you reason or argue with someone who bases their beliefs about the world around them on things that cannot be tried or disproven?

I think I have too many points for just one rant. I do believe we are starting to live in more dangerous times where the common religious followers are forming fertile soil for the growing of extremism, be it islamic or christian or any other form.

In reply to this comment by burdturgler:
I think people who think God doesn't allow suffering have never read the bible. That would include any of the "believers". It ain't all sunshine and unicorns. Bad things happen (welcome to Earth). How this is God's fault is beyond me. I guess he should take away free will and turn us all into robots. But then none of this would matter.

Disappointed to see you upvote this. Any "jihad" wishing for the destruction of a whole religious group .. might as well be religious ..

But, to each his own, I say.


In reply to this comment by chtierna:
Hi man

Thought Id leave my comment on the video "David Attenborough on God" I posted. My take on his answers is that he is irritated with religion and does answer another question than the one being posed, but probably because he gets hounded by religious zealots, just the way you think Videosift prosecutes religion (and to be fair it seems an atheistic community) and it gets you riled up after a while...

The important point I think is that a lot of religious people have this view of the Christian (or Islamic, or Jewish) God as Good and Loving and seem to be making up excuses for anything bad that happens. If I were a believer, Im not, I wouldnt assume God weeps every time I get a bruise. I guess David is saying that a relationship with God needs to be honest and he doesnt share their reasoning that God is not responsible for anything bad.

Or I completely missed the point

Well, there are many different ways to view God, which is always a problem when trying to have a discussion about it, because something you say can always be refuted by "thats not the kind of God I believe in !" I think in the video clip I submitted Attenborough is simply against those religious who cannot see God as allowing something bad, but want to credit him for everything that is good.

I used to be a silent atheist. Let anyone think what they want and believe in their God. But in the last 5 years Ive seen how religious people actively try to change things in their surroundings based on what ancient books tells them and it frightens me. It scares me shitless. And it makes me angry. I dont have the same kind of respect for religion as I had once because I think the practice of religion forces unwanted changes on innocent parties.

The way women are treated in muslim countries. The way gay people are treated and loathed all around. Trying to get creationism taught in schools. "No, this is not my religion, their religion is to blame, their way of practicing religion is to blame, they havent read the Book and understood it properly". I dont accept that. I think religion in itself is to blame. I think it limits the minds of the people who practice it by providing answers to the hard questions in form of dogma and inserting a ready-made world view to be adopted by the follower.

All the energy of curiousity gets transformed into a sense of righteous belief, splitting the world up into fractions of right and wrong, black and white, more and more absolute lines drawn. And how do you reason or argue with someone who bases their beliefs about the world around them on things that cannot be tried or disproven?

I think I have too many points for just one rant. I do believe we are starting to live in more dangerous times where the common religious followers are forming fertile soil for the growing of extremism, be it islamic or christian or any other form.

In reply to this comment by burdturgler:
I think people who think God doesn't allow suffering have never read the bible. That would include any of the "believers". It ain't all sunshine and unicorns. Bad things happen (welcome to Earth). How this is God's fault is beyond me. I guess he should take away free will and turn us all into robots. But then none of this would matter.

Disappointed to see you upvote this. Any "jihad" wishing for the destruction of a whole religious group .. might as well be religious ..

But, to each his own, I say.


In reply to this comment by chtierna:
Hi man

Thought Id leave my comment on the video "David Attenborough on God" I posted. My take on his answers is that he is irritated with religion and does answer another question than the one being posed, but probably because he gets hounded by religious zealots, just the way you think Videosift prosecutes religion (and to be fair it seems an atheistic community) and it gets you riled up after a while...

The important point I think is that a lot of religious people have this view of the Christian (or Islamic, or Jewish) God as Good and Loving and seem to be making up excuses for anything bad that happens. If I were a believer, Im not, I wouldnt assume God weeps every time I get a bruise. I guess David is saying that a relationship with God needs to be honest and he doesnt share their reasoning that God is not responsible for anything bad.

Or I completely missed the point