and in other stupidity involving both balls, and cars...

http://www.videosift.com/video/500-lb-rubberband-ball-vs-Toyota-Camry

AWD no doubt helps; and perhaps *high quality* all-weathers.

I still shudder when I think about the spinning and sliding in an old Camry near the airport. All-weather my ass! I don't know if the tires were old and worn, or just low quality.

Shortly afterwards I also found out, you see, that the car in fact did *not* have ABS either. (Fortunately I didn't find out the "fun" way by hitting something, but it disturbed me nonehteless). In general, I'm really pissed off at Toyota for considering ABS optional for so many of its models. And (rear) drum brakes? What the heck were they thinking? I'm just referring to the basic models of the Matrix, although some of their other models also suffered accordingly. What a complete joke.

In contrast to that lingering anger, I SO love bounding through snow in my Mz3 (four wheel disc brakes, quality too) with winter tires.