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UF Student tasered at John Kerry Speech

bamdrew says...

These things happen all the time on CSPAN. The difference here is the police at events in the capital have experience manhandling people out the door real quick, and the activists understand they will be jailed if they resist even slightly.

Agreed that Kerry should have interrupted pretty early with a sharp "Thats enough." Maybe followed by... "I've answered your first question many times; despite my feelings that I was the better presidential candidate I did not think it was in the Nation's interest to have a protracted and divisive courtroom battle for the Presidency. I did join one of the more prestigious of the ten or more different exclusionary social groups as a student at Yale and it helped me later to meet and catch the attention of other Yale graduates as I became interested in a career in politics. To entertain the idea that contacts through this college group were influential in my decision to stop my presidential bid is silly; the legends surrounding these groups are myths, they are simply invite-only social groups. Please have a seat and let one of your colleagues approach the mic... or I'll come down there and choke the shit out of you."... woah, got out of hand there at the end.

9/11 and WTC Tribute (2007)

choggie says...

http://www.videosift.com/video/911-Demolitions

http://www.videosift.com/video/WTC-7-Implosion

http://www.videosift.com/video/William-Rodriguez-Janitor-at-the-WTC-on-911-CSPAN

http://www.videosift.com/video/911-conspiracy-theory-debunked

Yeah, let's not forget, shall we????

Let's not forget:
that there are simple, textbook methods for manipulating masses and mobs;

that the easiest ways are usually the most counter-productive and unhealthy;

that the hardest thing to do is stare truth in the face, and deny its existence;

What about fraud with regards to private contractors?

Petraeus Mic Problems

joedirt says...

LOL, CSPAN has a censor button for protestors yelling "War Criminal" and "Terrst". It's like live radio but for dissent. How long can it possibly take to fix a mic?

I love how the old coots say I "see people" who look like they might disturb the hearing. Was facist "public servants"

Petraeus Mic Problems

8149 says...

Ex CIA and current dissenter Ray Mcgovern was in the crowd and got kicked out for mentioning that they should swear Petraeus in. This is one of their most important testimonies and the whole thing is a clusterfuck. I love CSPAN, they just let the cameras roll and these jackasses don't realize it.

William Rodriguez - Janitor at the WTC on 9/11 (CSPAN)

Constitutional_Patriot says...

He didn't JUST come-out with it... he's been stating this in many media forums, it's just that the media in America doesn't want to hear it... and apparently neither do you or anyone here. It was Omitted from the official report, mainstream media cuts the parts they don't want us to hear when they have interviewed him.

Also, you don't see why it's news? Apparently CSPAN did.. they played it several times on Sept. 9th, 2007. You all really do want your information spoon-fed to you by mainstream media.. just pick your flavor - don't you? This is very interesting in regards to cultural anthropology.

Petraeus Mic Problems

thesnipe (Member Profile)

Constitutional_Patriot says...

You were inside the tower also?.. where were you in relation to the twin towers when the attack happened?... when did you appear on the scene?.. I know the manhattan area.. I used to live on 89th st.

I'm not claiming that I know for sure what happened. If you all want me to shutup about here, then fine. I'm not exactly making any friends by holding this viewpoint and personally I hope you all are correct and I'm wrong but some things just don't add up and it bothers the hell out of me. If the government wouldn't be so secretive, suppress full and independant investigations, withhold/alter/destroy evidence then I would have never even considered foulplay, but with all this and hearing testimony of account from firsthand responders like that of Mr. Rodriguez while they refused to use his testimony in the release of the analysis, what the hell is one supposed to think?

In reply to this comment by thesnipe:
"So, what do you think about the firefighters and that head janitor that went through the north tower.. he's claiming that a bomb went off about several seconds before the plane hit.. and also claims of people being hurt by some of these explosions... at the base levels.. I'm not making this up.. they were there 1st hand ... reports of multiple explosions from the hero firefighters.. they must be crazy loons huh? What the hell is wrong with you ppl? I suppose you can't get out of the denial phase. This was all over CSPAN two days ago."

I was there too, first hand so don't go disputing the obvious. It's so nice to sit back and think that some guy on youtube has the facts of a conspiracy to demolish a building from a structural engineer standpoint. For this one claim of people saying they heard explosions there are HUNDREDS of others who dispute it first hand. Ya know people who call 9-1-1 reporting that there are gunshots when in fact their neighbor just lit off a firecracker, it's the same damn syndrome. I know people who were there from t minus 1 hour, 99% know what they saw and heard, they decide to stand next to reason as oppossed to claims from some whackjobs without the proper intelligence to analyze an incident that the most elite of our engineers and physicists struggle to determine the magnitude of. Lucky isn't making any shit up, if reason and physics is shit, then your personal attacks stand to clarify your comments at shit as well.

Is it THAT hard to believe that actual physics could come into play and bring down a building exposed to the trauma that WTC 7 did? Noooo it's some secret explosive technology developed in some dark ass lab by engineers who were disgruntled by normal existing technologies and contractors in the field of demolition. And don't start calling me out on the heroism of the firefighters that may have seen or heard these "explosions", I was there and know the agony and display of heroism EVERY single fireman/police officer and EMT went through. In the heat of the moment what a minority of what people think they see and heard can easily be misinterpreted.

Ya know what it probably is, all the people who were there were brainwashed as well by another secret government only technology. That would explain why I, and the hundreds of emergency response workers that were with me want to debunk this conspiracy theory.

Oh yeah and if something I said doesn't make perfect sense, excuse me but it's a difficult day for those who are busy paying respects to the friends and comrades they lost rather than coming up with useless and dumbass theories.

WTC 7 Implosion

thesnipe says...

"So, what do you think about the firefighters and that head janitor that went through the north tower.. he's claiming that a bomb went off about several seconds before the plane hit.. and also claims of people being hurt by some of these explosions... at the base levels.. I'm not making this up.. they were there 1st hand ... reports of multiple explosions from the hero firefighters.. they must be crazy loons huh? What the hell is wrong with you ppl? I suppose you can't get out of the denial phase. This was all over CSPAN two days ago."

I was there too, first hand so don't go disputing the obvious. It's so nice to sit back and think that some guy on youtube has the facts of a conspiracy to demolish a building from a structural engineer standpoint. For this one claim of people saying they heard explosions there are HUNDREDS of others who dispute it first hand. Ya know people who call 9-1-1 reporting that there are gunshots when in fact their neighbor just lit off a firecracker, it's the same damn syndrome. I know people who were there from t minus 1 hour, 99% know what they saw and heard, they decide to stand next to reason as oppossed to claims from some whackjobs without the proper intelligence to analyze an incident that the most elite of our engineers and physicists struggle to determine the magnitude of. Lucky isn't making any shit up, if reason and physics is shit, then your personal attacks stand to clarify your comments at shit as well.

Is it THAT hard to believe that actual physics could come into play and bring down a building exposed to the trauma that WTC 7 did? Noooo it's some secret explosive technology developed in some dark ass lab by engineers who were disgruntled by normal existing technologies and contractors in the field of demolition. And don't start calling me out on the heroism of the firefighters that may have seen or heard these "explosions", I was there and know the agony and display of heroism EVERY single fireman/police officer and EMT went through. In the heat of the moment what a minority of what people think they see and heard can easily be misinterpreted.

Ya know what it probably is, all the people who were there were brainwashed as well by another secret government only technology. That would explain why I, and the hundreds of emergency response workers that were with me want to debunk this conspiracy theory.

Oh yeah and if something I said doesn't make perfect sense, excuse me but it's a difficult day for those who are busy paying respects to the friends and comrades they lost rather than coming up with useless and dumbass theories.

WTC 7 Implosion

Constitutional_Patriot says...

Ok.. since everything has to be explained in detail to you since you didn't see it on CSPAN the other night....

No.. the firefighters were not there when the first bomb went off as the janitor claims... but the janitor was leading the firemen up the tower in the stairwells because every other floor was locked and could only be opened with a master key that the janitor has (yes he still has it). By the time they got to the 34th floor they heard a series of explosions (that's a squadron of firefighters and the janitor)... not just one as you claim. Mr. Rodriguez has come forth with this information and testified before the 9/11 commission.. his testimony and any information about him was left out of the 9/11 commission report (it may be in the 28 page redaction). He has also been giving his testimony via various venues, but it's not widely publicised by the mass media.. however he did appear on Fox and MSNBC with a partial of his testimony, some of which was edited out.

Also, there is footage of explosions on video.. you need to do some more research. It's out there, but I'm about to make dinner and don't have time to look it for you.. do it yourself.

You should also watch the full testimony of Rodriguez that was aired on CSPAN - It's part of the American Perspectives series. If I ever see it released on You Tube, I'll post it.

WTC 7 Implosion

Constitutional_Patriot says...

Keep making shit up that you imagine I said Lucky760... typical of your type. Ninjas.. your like a 6 year sometimes I swear.. can't you keep it semi-honest for once?

So, what do you think about the firefighters and that head janitor that went through the north tower.. he's claiming that a bomb went off about several seconds before the plane hit.. and also claims of people being hurt by some of these explosions... at the base levels.. I'm not making this up.. they were there 1st hand ... reports of multiple explosions from the hero firefighters.. they must be crazy loons huh? What the hell is wrong with you ppl? I suppose you can't get out of the denial phase. This was all over CSPAN two days ago.

9/11 conspiracy theory debunked

Constitutional_Patriot says...

One of the main reasons that this is not fully convincing that it was just caused by the fires and not thermodetonators plus fires - is the fact that pools of molten metal running through the channels in the basement areas and is clearly visible from other photos where they were pulling steel beams covered with the molten metal.

Also, there are other main factors involved here, such as eyewitness testimony, accound and audio/video recordings that show multiple explosions occurring.

-- At the very moment I'm writing this, I'm viewing on CSPAN a testimony from WTC Janitor William Rodriguez as he and others claimed a major explosion in the basement are occurred about a minute or two before the plane hit the first tower as well as several other explosions throughout the buildings and his personal witness an assistance of a severe burn victim from one of these explosions.
I've heard debunkers claim that some of the multiple explosions were the result of propane canisters in kitchens that were exploding from the heat, however this is not possible because the WTC was a Class A bldg that had electrical kitchens with propane being considered a hazardous chemical that was not allowed in a class A bldg.

CSPAN is replaying this video every other hour today. Rodriguez' testified before the 9/11 commission, however was either ommitted by the commission or redacted by the Bush administration (28 pages redacted by the White House).

This and other questions such as Bldg. 7, the strange crash of flight 93, flight 77's ultra-precision maneuvers by sub-standard pilots (there are photos of an array of antennas that was installed on the roof of the pentagon at that location reportedly just a few months before the attack which could have been used for navigational guidance) and the multiple reports that 5-6 of the 19 reported terrorists that flew the planes are still alive.

I'm not claiming that any of this is true or not... but these are solid enough to warrant a major investigation that is not directed by the White house or influenced by corporate and CIA/FBI directives.

The Keane/Zelikow commission has reported that much information has been withheld and/or stymied from them during their investigation.

(Lee Hamilton, Vice Chairman, 9/11 Commission) states: I don’t believe for a minute that we got everything right. We wrote a first draft of history. ... People will be investigating 9/11 for the next hundred years in this country, and they’re going to find out some things that we missed here.

Peter Rundlet, Counsel for the 9/11 Commission states: Very possibly, someone committed a crime. And worst of all, they failed to stop the plot.

Senator Max Cleland – Former member of the 9/11 Commission, resigned in December 2003 states: "As each day goes by, we learn that this government knew a whole lot more about these terrorists before Sept. 11 than it has ever admitted.", "...This investigation is now compromised."

US Strategy in Iraq: Anthony Cordesman vs George Bush

rougy says...

Truth. Little wonder it was blipped on CSPAN and ignored by our "free press."

Bush...what a stinking chump.

Who could be so stupid and gullible to vote for a stinking lying chump like that?

Global Warming & The Future of Coal - High Tech New Plants

choggie says...

"Pelosi stated that there were 12 different plans on CSPAN. What are the other options she's referring to?"

A: One for every dildo in her special drawer

Olbermann spanks O'Reilly

Constitutional_Patriot says...

I must admit I was pretty annoyed from Bill O regarding this. I think mostly because Bill never owned up to being incorrect about a historical fact. We're all only human (I think), and we do make mistakes. My grandfather died in the Battle of the Bulge which was near this awful occurence in history. I still think Bill owes americans an apology for not owning up to big mistakes like this one...

If he truly believes this is what happened even though all the history books dictate otherwise, then he should support his theory with some evidence, for it is a serious accusation to accuse these post-humously medal awarded veterans of being outright war criminals. This equates to him calling the official account a conspiracy. That would make him a conspiracy theorist I guess.

Believe it or not, I used to like Bill O when he was funny and I was ignorant. Hey, at least I can own up to my mistakes.

The circus of the media on tv today seems to be just that.. A GAME.

Probably why I watch alot of cspan and the web instead.



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