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BSR (Member Profile)

Kind Human Rescues Drowning Puppy

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Policeman Just Hanging Out While On Duty

newtboy says...

Let his friends help him.
It would be great if we lived in a society where assisting the police didn't end in charges and lawsuits or worse more often than not. Sadly, that's not the society we have.
It's unfortunately likely another officer could mistake the help for an attack and shoot the citizen helping, then have zero consequences for his deadly mistake thanks to blanket immunity and a blue wall of silence and lies.
Besides, police have squandered any good will they once deserved with self serving lies covering almost daily deadly or life ruining abuses by their group. Just as I wouldn't help a Medaine cartel member, even though some do help the community too, I wouldn't help a policeman today. They're all part of a violent gang, better to keep your distance until they clean house, which is unlikely. Cops that don't back criminal cops are driven out of policing with death threats and retaliation top to bottom every time.
Furthermore, shouldn't kindness logically begin with the civil servants instead of their victims?

Sadly, while I agree about helping fellow citizens, that's also not without risk. If you try to help and fail, often you might find yourself liable for the damage you couldn't prevent. Even if you succeed, you may find yourself at risk. Years ago, my brother gave CPR to a stranger who collapsed nearby, when the man died he was nearly charged with homicide even though he had done it correctly and not injured the victim. Had he not had thousands to spend hiring a lawyer, he certainly would have been charged and sued. To this day, he can't find out what the man died of or if it was contagious. Civil society is breaking down, and civility is becoming increasingly risky. If you're going to help, get a liability release first. ;-)

makach said:

I think, in this particular case the guy filming should have assisted the policeman instead of ridiculing him in a video. Kindness has to begin somewhere.

But it is not just the police. It is many things, instead of helping or doing the right thing it is filmed from a distance instead.

There recently was a huge fire in our neighbourhood. Firemen said that it would have been contained if just one person used a fire extinguisher. On the other hand, it is documented well from many angles.

BSR (Member Profile)

Dog Does CPR at WORLD DOG SHOW 2016, Moscow

nanrod (Member Profile)

worthwords says...

I understand that but people are very bad at doing chest compressions and often because they are too gentle - which this video re-affirms. if it was a few years ago since you did your course this advert might make you worse at your technique.
These events don't time themselves 2 weeks after you had a CPR refresher course.

The lady on the right in this photo is a bit rusty!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-illvh8YyI8A/UfiiMTwYD9I/AAAAAAAAWrQ/pID8Iw9kbKw/s1600/cpr+with+two+women+doing+it+right+dr+heckle+funny+wtf+pictures.jpg

nanrod said:

I'm pretty sure that the message here is not "this is how you do it" but "Go and learn how to do it "

Lawdeedaw (Member Profile)

The Importance of CPR

worthwords says...

In the UK, rescue breaths are used for paediatric (1yrs-puberty). And drowning is a 'special circumstance' whereby Cardiac arrest is almost always secondary to hypoxia there rescue breaths increase survival over 'hands only' CPR,
It's in the resus manual...l https://lms.resus.org.uk/modules/m10-v2-cardiac-arrest/10346/resources/chapter_12.pdf

So not a good example in this video. However saying that any *decent* attempt at chest compression only is going to help someone who is not breathing so not to be discouraged.

Lawdeedaw said:

Actually, hands free cpr is now taught. Not rescue breath. You are right about the rest.

The Importance of CPR

Lawdeedaw says...

Actually, hands free cpr is now taught. Not rescue breath. You are right about the rest.

worthwords said:

good message but it was all wrong. In children you start with a rescue breath and then chest compressions. The compressions shown here were too slow and no where near deep enough to generate circulation and it's not useful to give such a gentle image as it might stop people giving proper compressions in future.

In reality it's vigorous and its not unusual to get rib fractures as a result.
e.g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZVfVKA10lk

The Importance of CPR

The ambulance-drone is capable of saving lives!

worthwords says...

Just to clarify terminology. Heart attack is not the same as cardiac arrest.
Basically a heart attack is when the arteries to the heart become occluded causing chest pain and (as time goes by) cardiac muscle damage.
A cardiac arrest is where the heart is unable to pump blood to supply the brain causing a loss of consciousness. Cardiac arrest can be caused by arrhythmias, large blood clots in the lung and also heart attacks where either a large part of the heart is infarcted or because an arrhythmia develops secondary to infecting an important conducive pathway in the heart.

The majority of heart attacks cause chest pain and no loss of consciousness but the ones that do cause LOC have a poor survival rate.
When someone collapses like this you have no idea what the cause is but if they are not breathing then you should call for help and start CPR immediately.
Defibrillators are found on tube stations, supermarkets etc and are designed for members of the public to use - they talk you through the steps.
The pads analyse the rhythm of the heart to see if it's a 'shockable' rhythm. If it's not then no shock will be delivered which is why it's essential that CPR has been started and is maintained until help arrives.

A common misconception (in tv/movies) is that a 'flat line' can be shocked back into a normal rhythm when in fact if the defibrillator reads a 'flat line'( technical term asystole) then it will not initiate a shock.

10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Woman

Yogi says...

Oh Christ you're one of those fucking people. Fuck you! Don't say hi to me, don't even look at me. If you clutched your chest I wouldn't put any of the hours and hours of First Aid and CPR classes to good use. I would watch you die because you're a horrible person who shouldn't be invading other peoples lives with your fatuous pleasantries. Just Die!


/Scrooge

Sagemind said:

Wow..., just wow. Really?
(This surprises me)

Talking to people and meeting people is what it's all about. I talk to people every day. Always make eye contact if possible, be friendly and help someone in need. Where I'm from, snubbing people is the ultimate rudeness and it just doesn't happen, unless that person is just shy.

WKB (Member Profile)

Felicia Day Learns CPR: Drama Ensues



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