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newtboy says...

HA!!!!
The "rusted through" on my 70 Bronco had progressed to "rust held together by spit and paint" in many places...but many more were rusted through all the way around, like my hood which had no edge when I bought it. The windshield frame was only upright thanks to the glass, it peeled off by hand leaving me a windshield with no frame. I've since replaced both, but I still have at least one hole through every panel I haven't replaced. My front fenders are more rust than metal at this point. I have replacements, but I'm waiting for it to disassemble itself. ;-)

Payback said:

The patina on my 73 Mustang has progressed to "rusted through" in more than a few places so I'm resto-modding it. It's only a Grande convertible so the VIN doesn't decode rare at all, so I feel ok customizing it.

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newtboy says...

Totally true....but in all honesty, my car is so rusted that the entire body is really a crumple zone at this point, but not an engineered crumple zone.
The bronco is much taller/higher than the discovery in that vid, and much tougher, with 500%-1000% more bumper, but it only has lap belts, not even a shoulder strap, so in that situation if I don't drive up over them I'll probably take a steering wheel through the chest.
EDIT:The Jeep is even higher, so more likely to drive over anything, with no bumper, just protruding front tires to bounce off or pop, full 2.5" roll cage, and four point seat belts attached to the cage. It's safer than any normal car made today thanks to the add ons.

BUT, remember, the crumple zones work to decelerate BOTH cars in an accident, not just the car with the crumple zone, so as long as the car I hit has them, I'll be OK....maybe. My CAR will certainly survive better than the newer car, at least. ;-)

oritteropo said:

Structural failure isn't the only risk. The point of modern safety features is to reduce the impact of the crash on the occupants. If you crash an army tank into a large tree at high speed, the tank itself is likely to be fine but the occupants probably won't. In your case, whether your car is better or worse than the average modern car in a crash is probably "it depends".

How does your car compare to the Discovery in http://videosift.com/video/Crash-tests-SUV-vs-Minivan-Which-one-does-better ?

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newtboy says...

Sure, but I drive a Bronco with a full roll cage....not a bel air. I would crush that bel air too, and the Malibu. Bronco's are tough enough to do both, they have a thick full tube frame and heavy metal body, not a weakened C-channel or less covered in plastic. Mine has a >300lb industrial steel bumper as well.
My other car is a 73 CJ-5, also with full roll cage and with 4 point seat belts, that is tall enough to drive right over both of those cars or, if not, turn them into convertibles. ;-)

So yeah, I still think I'll do WAY better in a crash than an average new car.

spawnflagger said:

http://videosift.com/video/1959-Bel-Air-vs-2009-Malibu-crash-test

Crumple-zones (and other safety engineering) can be the difference between life and death.

And most crash tests (and star ratings) aren't for highway speeds.
http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/ratings-info/frontal-crash-tests
so 40 mph and 35 mph. If you go up to 55,65,75 mph the difference in kinetic energy is exponentially higher (K=0.5mv^2)

there might have been a mythbusters episode about this...can't remember the result though.

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This is what a ZERO star-rated car looks like in a test

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newtboy jokingly says...

You've answered your own question...it's BECAUSE they're indestructible.
Ford can't sell more cars if the cars people have refuse to die.
My 46 year old Bronco is tougher than anything you can buy today, and it's made of this stuff we had in the old days called me-tal.

Payback said:

I don't know why Ford stopped making the Town Car. They were indestructible...

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