*doublepromote *quality

Protect and serve....riiiight.

Double-Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 11:33am PDT - doublepromote requested by Mordhaus.

Boosting this quality contribution up in the Hot Listing - declared quality by Mordhaus.

Less of a "why the cops won't help you" than a "here's a story of when cops didn't help me".

Yeah, this is a "Why NYPD cops" or "Why US cops" won't help, plus a little "US healthcare isn't about caring for people's health" kind of story.

Just for balance, not all cops will stand off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IRGaJfN_88

I thought it was more "Why you shouldn't count on cops helping you".

no, this isn't about NYPD, or anomalous police behaviour, this is clearly about US cops are not constitutionally obliged to protect specific citizens. did everyone miss the part about castle rock v. gonzales?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_of_Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales

which had precedent that goes further back:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

I disagree. It's really more of a "fyi, police officers have no obligation to help you, so don't ever assume they will."

Yeah I think you guys are right.

Ok, so....

Cops should just jump on people they think *might* commit a crime because: Reasons .

Good call, citizens!

Due process. Due fucking process.
It exists for reasons beyond your cynical worldview...or even worst case scenarios. It exists to protect the rest of us. The majority.

The cops were right there to take the guy away once he did something stupid. They were also "correct" in not doing anything beforehand. Right before he pulled a knife and stabbed someone, he was just being an asshole, nothing more. That's not illegal. Sorry.

and no: you don't want the police "protecting" you. That's what the Mafia does.

So what's the alternative? Preemptive police takedowns? That happens too, and people scream all the same.

Difference is: I'd rather live in a free society where cops wait for somebody (maybe me) to actually do something wrong, than just leave it up to them to decide when you (or I) *might* be a risk, and then taze or shoot you or me dead.

The police are not there to keep you safe. For one, there is no such thing as "safe" in absolute terms, and in my opinion, if there was, you sure as shit don't want the state prescribing that "safety".

But...that's just my opinion.

Um...this ended his 28 hour long stabbing spree, the reason the cops were there and why they recognized him.....sounds like "something stupid"and illegal to me, as did pulling the knife and stabbing people right in front of them, which they continued to just watch until citizens detained and disarmed him, and only then did they take him away, ignoring the mortal wounds he caused to those citizens, so they were not correct at all, he was a known armed public threat that they didn't even warn others about, they just cowered behind the door out of fear of a non existent gun, then offered no assistance to the man that just did their job....and took credit for it....sorry.
I think you need to watch again, assuming you watched at all, you missed literally everything.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

Sift of the week.

ugh. ok. I stand corrected.
Late night and I guess I pulled off the headphones off at a key point and completely missed that. :-(
Yesterday was one of those days. Sigh.

Cops would have been 100% justified in shooting gelman at any point after he started swinging his knife towards the narrator and before the narrator disarmed him.. Or at least kicking the shit out of him as necessary to stop his killing spree. Due process is for after the perp has been apprehended.