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enoch says...

*promote

cuz i truly enjoy watching shag and newt go back and forth on this issue,and in doing so bring up some very real and important points when dealing with psychedelics.

it really is important to know what you are ingesting,no matter what form of drug you may be experimenting with.

that being said,woohoo for tripping balls!

buckle your seatbelt dorothy,
because kansas is going bye bye.

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enoch says...

such a great scene and one of my faves.i found the original post.
it was choggies,so the tags were all choggified and most likely the main reason you couldnt find it teehee.

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enoch says...

figured i would take this discussion to your page.

in response to this post:kinda,you are close,in the ball park.

the main reason why i injected my opinion in that thread was to add a dynamic that was not being discussed.

i wasnt actually offering a counterpoint but rather adding to the already complicated dynamic.

so i do not think we disagree at all.
one of the reasons islam has not changed much is due to there not being a reformation.this lack of canonization and core central philosophical tenants has left islam to a wide array of problems,many of those problems we see play out everyday on the world stage.

if you going to read any book on islam.i highly recommend reza aslans "no god but god".the entire book is an argument FOR reformation and you may recognize some of the arguments in the book from my commentary.

as always my friend,
a pleasure engaging and discussing with you.
stay awesome.

Barbar said:

Edit: I removed a largely unhelpful post I made. I apologise if someone was meaning to reply to it. It would have brought the discussion somewhere I don't really want it to go, and was almost devoid of content despite it's word count.

Instead, having thought a bit more, I think I'm going to try and restate your position to see if I understand it. Watching a few Greenwald interviews helped me to understand it. Please correct me if I'm off base here.

You feel that the current state of the Islamic religion is largely a result of past and current colonialism and interventionism from (mostly) the west. You're saying that we hold a lot of the blame, and that their religion has morphed into it didn't use to be, and has become violent in response to worldly grievances and zeitgeist.

If that is your stance, then we only disagree on the degree that the religion has changed. I think it has stayed more true to its roots than you do. Sounds like a good excuse for me to go on a history reading binge

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enoch says...

i find it amusing in an ironically,twisted way that the very same people who will shout about "freedoms" and "liberty" are the very same people who will tacitly accept an ever-increasing authoritarian police force.

i mean,what could possibly be an end result of the continuous pleas "just sit down,and do what you are told and nothing bad will happen".
sit down.
shut up.
obey..and for god's sakes do not provoke anything resembling authority because then you get what you deserve.

does that sound like anything resembling "freedom"?
or liberty?
sounds like fear to me.

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enoch says...

you are STILL the epitome of cool my friend!

schmawy said:

The Sift is like a real nice old neighborhood bar. The kind of bar you hope never closes. It's quiet, friendly, and classy in a slightly retro way. Maybe you moved out of town a couple of years ago, and you just happen to be driving through and exclaim "Ooh shit, that place is still open!? I gotta go in!"

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