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Suicide Bombings and Islam: An Apologist's Guide

enoch says...

@bobknight33
why is @newtboy a dumb fuck?

for pointing out that historically suicide bombers have not been exclusively muslim.newt is not disagreeing that radical islamic suicide bombers exist,he is simply pointing out that the practice of bombing in the name of religion is not an exclusively muslim practice when viewed through the lens of history.

the problem is NOT exclusively the religion of islam,the problem is fundamentalist thinking.so while at this point in history it is islam that is the theology that is twisted for a sinister and destructive purpose,the same justifications can be found in ALL religions,predominantly from the abrahmic:judaism,muslim and christianity.

this is not a simple issue,there are many factors to be considered on why people will strap a bomb to their chests and walk into a crowded cafe and blow themselves up.

factors such as:education,employment,community,family structures and most of all...hope.we need hope.all of us need hope but when conditions for normal people are so oppressive and hopeless,people will seek to find hope anywhere,which can be in the form of religion.

look,
words are inert,they are meaningless until someone reads those words..and then interprets them.

this is particularly true when addressing religion.
if you are a violent person,then your religion will be violent.
if you are peaceful and loving,then your religion will be peaceful.

no matter which sacred text you adhere to,be it the quran,the bible or the torah.you will find justification for any and all acts you choose to engage in,be it violent or peaceful.

and THAT is what sargon is addressing!
sargon is dissecting the apologetics of those who are just not getting the plot.radical islam is a problem,a big problem,and attempting to dismiss the underlying factors in order to make a more "palatable" explanation is wading into dangerous waters.

so we can understand the politics and motivation of a young man from palestine who straps explosives to his chest and blows himself up taking innocent civilians with him.we can look at the events that led up to that grievous choice.we know,because there is historical record,how badly the palestinian people are being treated,and have been for decades.the young man was stripped of hope,and the only solace he found was in the quran and so began his radicalization.

it is the politics that always,and i mean ALWAYS,sets the stage but it is the religion that lays out the justification.

which is what newt was basically talking about.
we can use the exact same calculus for fundamentalist christians,or zionist jews.

think about it,how many radicalized muslims live in america?
how many?
deerborn michigan has the largest muslim community in america.now go look at how many suicide bombers are born from that region.
notice anything?

politics is the fuel,religion is the match.

some here may take issue with sargon's take on this situation,but he is making valid points in regards to how some people (mainly on the left) engage in apologetics,while ignoring the larger implications.

if we,as a species,wish to curb the tide of religious fundamentalism and the radicalization of whole communities.then we need to address the politics first and foremost.otherwise this "war on terror" will become never-ending.because the "war on terror' is actually on "war on ideas",really bad ideas,predicated on even worse politics.

today it is islam.
tomorrow it may be christianity,and there is a whole army of fundamentalist and dominionist christians just waiting to be called for their "holy war".

or should i just call it "christian jihad".

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enoch says...

hey man,congrats on the nordic channel!
i didnt even notice you hit ruby,because i suck and i now a puppy has to die.

bad enoch..baaaad.

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enoch says...

right on man!

now go upvote my comment!

Payback said:

I think, for more than a few Trump voters, they agree it was all disqualifying, that they're not racist, or sexist. They believe it's all "deplorable".

That just made it a better "fuck you".

I feel that's where the democrats went wrong. They thought the third party candidates were "protest votes", not realising that, in fact, Trump was the biggest protest vote of all.

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enoch says...

yeah..i didnt really get it either.
had to look it up even.
making me do research to understand a video,fucking kids these days and their new verbiage.

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i guess the word is applicable,in a severely abstract way.kind of a stretch if you ask me.

Babymech said:

Does cuck mean anything to shitty people online anymore, or is it just a generic insult they throw everywhere? I mean, someone being cuckolded / fetishizing being cuckolded seems like a hyperspecific descriptor, not a generic bad thing.

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enoch says...

thanks for the promote lover!

WeedandWeirdness said:

I had totally forgotten about these guys @enoch! A buddy of mine was a DJ at an independent radio station when I was in High School and would make me some of the best mix tapes ever, and this song was on one of them. Holy hell, brought back a lot of memories of flipping through milk crates full of vinyl.

The lyrics are amazing, and it seems very fitting for the times we are currently living, so I need to *promote this one for sure!!

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enoch says...

yeah...this dude really misses the point,and plays right into some peoples fears.

how did he ever think this was a good idea?
"hey,let's make a video revealing people's bias by mocking that bias AND the trans people they are so hopelessly afraid of".

but the fact that he called his trans friend,absolves him of any responsibility i guess.i have a few black friends and a number of teh gays,and even a long time trans friend.guess that means i can be as racist and homophobic as i want to be right?riiiight?

this just makes no sense...
accomplishes nothing except for being trite,shallow and offensive....to everybody!

this morning a fellow minister posted a meme in regards to this on how it is a mans job to protect the females and any transitional male should be beaten.

for what,he does not clarify.

most likely because americans have become sissy pant bed wetters at the thought of a penis using a female lavatory.

look..my gelatinous blobs of fear,that delusionally call themselves "strong" americans.here is the simple truth:trans people have been using your bathrooms for...well...ever.

you didnt know,and really didnt care,but now that there is a law in place you and your gaggle of sissy prude-police have convinced yourself that all trans people wanted from that law is to bugger your little johnny,or brittany.

no.
they just want to pee.

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Payback (Member Profile)

enoch says...

totally feel ya mate.
i have come to his defense for exactly the same reason,only to be promptly thrown under the bus.

frustrating.

Payback said:

Wow Bob, I know I just defended your right to your opinion, and that people shouldn't attack you for it, but this is a lie. A complete fabrication. You should feel deeply ashamed of this bullshit. Even more so if you're just parroting some Republican talking point crap.

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enoch says...

i have watched a few of this guys videos,and while he has great energy,passion and a penchant for sly humor,but he tends to impose his understandings as somehow being more valid and accurate.

just take his example of the role of government.
he makes a valid point,and then solidifies his position by implying his view is set in this countries original documents.

which is fair,but only to a point...he literally ignores the federalist papers,which he actually references,and it was these 200+ papers and/or arguments that debated the actual role of the federal government vs the role of state government.

@MonkeySpank he is actually right.america is not a true direct democracy but rather a democratically elected representative republic.

after he makes some valid,if fairly biased points,he devolves into the gospel of capitalism and how it is a natural extension of our democratic republic.

really dude?
name ONE corporation that is democratic in any fashion?
you can't?
maybe that is due to the very obvious and plain fact that corporations are tyrannical by their very design.

this semi-educated man is just preaching the gospel of his religion:capitalism.

and referencing lenin like 20 times?
dude...read a fucking book on the history of the soviet union.

oh jesus..now he defending trickle down economics.....
sighs..how the zealots adore their doctrine of their holy texts,even if those texts are just figments of some economists wet dreams and has been proven to be an utter and glorious failure.

sanders is a democratic socialist,not like a denmark flavor but more of a FDR flavor.you know...the most popular president in this countries history and ushered in the most prosperous era in this countries history.

i could do a play by play on this man all day,and make him cry like a pretty little thailand ladyboy who cant afford his life-changing surgery into a actual woman.

well..he does have that douchebag hair.so he may already be looking for a surgeon.

yeah..im with @MonkeySpank,this dude just needs a good cock punch.

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