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Zombieland

I liked Jesse Eisenberg in Zombieland... and nothing else. The scenes with him in this trailer, it's like he's on the same acting level as a local jr. high school production of Frankenstein.

Friend of mine gave me a plant the other week. Wierd little thing, just a corm and nothing else. No maintenance at all. Today, while I was at work, it blossomed.

Now I know that it's a voodoo lily. And that it smells like a dozen rotting carcasses. Seriously, my entire fucking apartment smells like Zombieland.

When I called her about it, she was laughing her ass off...

Zombieland Rule # 1 - Cardio

One: Do you believe that Randall should live or die? Plus your reasoning for it. I would suggest remembering his time in town (episode 10) and what he said to Daryl and Karl.

1: I think Randall will say or do whatever it takes to stay alive. He sees a weakness in their group's mindset and tries to play on it. He took the wrong approach with Karl. However his former group left him to die. He knew of the girl and her farm. Why did he not lead his former group to the farm for supplies at least if he a true member of it? I think he realizes numbers = better chance of survival and that the group we're seeing in the story is not very structured or strong. In the end, not living in a zombieland, he should live. However with the story how it is, and how he manipulated and saw how much the group who normally wouldn't have killed outright tried to kill him AFTER beating his ass....I think they need to kill him. I don't agree with it, I can understand it though. He will be the guy who sets the precedent that if they kill him, all future humans (but probably not women or children) will be killed. If they don't kill him, he will betray them and prove their decision wrong.

2: Karl sees everyone he doesn't know as a walker. Whether they are or not. I think seeing the walker kill Dale with it likely being Karl's fault has probably locked in his reaction from here on out. His only exception will be young women, due to Sophia. As for confession of possibly leading the walker, I think at the moment he's leading towards Shane in character so he probably will not confess to anything to the current group. Although I think it will come out eventually because this show is drama more than anything else.

3: Right time? Probably. Immediate reaction was: This is just stupid, he walked off alone into the dark, saw a torn apart cow and just froze like he was confused as to what possible could have caused it. The effect on the group will be seeing the world as uglier but acting as if it wasn't in his name, and it will be largely negative and become a plot device on how they will screw themselves going forward. I don't see Dale as a member with power, Glenn will take up his role and Glenn has actual juice to make it happen since he's the go to guy for getting supplies. There may be the possibility of Daryl and Glenn sharing the role Dale played as the group conscience since Daryl has been on the outs and needs to be brought back in. I have no idea on the television politics, but his character was doing less and less each episode. At least before he was keeping the RV running and things organized. Anymore he barely appeared in the episodes in any significant role. Daryl, Glenn, and Andrea were doing significant amounts of sitting on the RV and playing lookout.

Personally I'd like to see Daryl replace Dale and then have the other "big" group headed up by Daryl's brother who lost the hand in Season 1. Hopefully it'll be action based and cleverness instead of drama and talking. Where Glenn and Daryl are more fixtures in the series, because Im tired of hearing about the baby/pregnancy and Hershel's family is largely just boring as all hell. And that farm looks like possibly the worst possible place to pick for fortifying and they have done nothing to prepare it......like boarding the lower windows.

I may have to look into the books.....in the middle of some other books right now though.

Lots of stuff bugs me about this show. I know the farm is to keep budgets down, but they added a shitload of recurring characters at the same time as they picked a dull setting....so Im not sure how that saved them money.

>> Do you believe that Randall should live or die?

He has to die. He's a liar and a manipulator and cannot be trusted. He claims he "ain't like them," but is darned eager to get back to them, as he told Carl. Also, he illustrated his lack of value for human life on the roof and when Shane was trapped in the bus. His freedom is a direct threat to the farm.

>> What is going on with Karl?

He's becoming a young man and wants to prove himself a big boy who can take care of himself and kill emotionless like the grown-ups.

>> How should his parents approach this situation?

They have to beat into his brain the seriousness and value of all their actions. Still, growing up in Zombieland, he's going to be screwed up no matter what.

>> Lastly, do you think Karl will fess up about that zombie and the situation that occurred earlier--possibly his scent leading the zombie back to the camp for all we know--that zombie wasn't exactly going the right way beforehand...?

I think Carl might fess up if he still has enough of a conscience left, but I don't think it matters either way. So what if he happened to be a zombie he freed. It could have come from anywhere. It's Dale's carelessness that got him killed.

>> Do you think it was the right time to kill off Dale?

It was the PERFECT time to execute Dale, especially because I was rooting for him to die the entire episode.

>> What was your IMMEDIATE reaction when he was torn open and you KNEW he was a dead man?

When we saw his body get ripped open, my wife and I high-fived and applauded his demise.

>> How will this affect the group: positives/negatives?

Dale will be held as something of a martyr. The message he kept whining about is going to echo in their heads and they're going to reconsider his words and they'll all be much more sensitive to the Randal situation. (The writers just need more inner strife and everyone agreeing to an execution without Dale is too easy, so they'll have to argue more now and give the viewers more drama.)

>> Lastly, who do you think will take up the "power vacuum" left by Dale--for this we'll assume it's NOT Rick as he is the leader?

It's too big a statement to say Dale had any power. His only power was nagging everyone to see things his way.

>> Also if you wish you talk about whether you think "Television Politics" played a part in the, what some would call, his "early death" and to the point, leaving of the series?

I think it was beautiful that he was crying so desperately for the entire episode about shooting a guy in the head only to be shot in the head in the end. It was obviously designed that way, but it was still very nice.

>> ^eric3579:

22. The Usual Suspects
37. Titanic
70. matrix
80. big lebowski


You didn't get Zombieland? For Shame!

>> ^notarobot:

Zombieland was not classic horror, but was one of the most fun zombie films ever made. Right up there with Sean of the Dead.


I wouldn't go THAT far... and I'm pretty sure it's SHAUN of the Dead

>> ^notarobot:

Zombieland was not classic horror, but was one of the most fun zombie films ever made. Right up there with Sean of the Dead.


Fido is another great nontraditional zombie movie.

Zombieland was not classic horror, but was one of the most fun zombie films ever made. Right up there with Sean of the Dead.

Thanks for the quality

In reply to this comment by campionidelmondo:
*quality

Actually I'm sure I'll rent it soon. I've heard a lot of good things about it, including from people whose opinions I respect. I raised the same objection about Eisenberg to one of my friends who saw it, and he said, "This is the role Jesse Eisenberg was born to play." So you're both probably right.

Still, I've seen him in 'Adventureland', 'Zombieland', and most recently in 'Solitary Man', and I've almost had enough of him. He's Michael Cera, Part II - The Clone Wars. But they're both better than Toby Maguire. I bet his wife checks his pulse a few times a day.
In reply to this comment by Sarzy:
Thanks, KP. And you should reconsider on watching the Social Network. Jesse Eisenberg can be quite one-note, yeah, but he's actually pretty great in the Social Network. His acting style suits the character perfectly.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
This is perfect. I've deliberately avoided seeing 'The Social Network' because I really can't tolerate Jesse Eisenberg in a movie anymore. He's so flat. Toby Maguire and he need to find a new line of work. I'm thinking mannequins.

Thank you!

In reply to this comment by RFlagg:
I know SiftBot will say I am not privileged, but here we go, *dead
I am going to guess it could be fixed with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p5BA7eCkLQ