Wait wait. I was with you up until you implied that Avatar: The Last Airbender was crap. It wasn't! Someone from the sift even worked on it, I forget who. Shamalama may have totally FUCKED the movie, but the cartoon was great fun, and actually quite poignant in parts. Not to mention, the artwork is gorgeous (see the fight between azula and zuko that I sifted, for example).

Of course maybe I read too much into your comment and you weren't implying that at all. In which case please ignore this comment entirely.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

Cartoons are the thing most likely to bring out the grumpy old man in me.
Transformers (the original, not the rubbish bayhem or the anime crap), Thundercats, Ulysses 31 were all awesome. Hell, even later stuff like Animaniacs, Samurai Jack and Dexters Lab were excellent.
Kids these days with their yu-gi-mon the last air whatever! It's crap.
now get off my lawn!

Cartoons are the thing most likely to bring out the grumpy old man in me.

Transformers (the original, not the rubbish bayhem or the anime crap), Thundercats, Ulysses 31 were all awesome. Hell, even later stuff like Animaniacs, Samurai Jack and Dexters Lab were excellent.

Kids these days with their yu-gi-mon the last air whatever! It's crap.

now get off my lawn!

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>> ^Sagemind:

First of all, I also named my son Luke (after Luke skywalker), and then brought him up as a sci-fi, comic book, fantasy kid but from what I'm seeing, it may have backfired on me as Anime is slowly creeping in from his friends. It's like I have no control any more.
He's now ten, and although he still likes all the fanboy stuff I introduced him to, he's now expanding into stuff I know nothing about. First Bakugan, then Yu-Gi-oh, Pokemon and now something else that I don't know anything about(un-named because I don't know the name.
I think I've created a monster
>> ^lucky760:
I never saw any of these until I was a grown ass man, so I don't have any fond childhood memories of them, but I'm quite eager, if I'm being honest, to let my boy watch them when he's old enough. I'm planning on manipulating him into a sci-fi, comic book geek as he grows up.
(I just hope he doesn't find this comment when he's older and discover what I've done to him.)
P.S. The kid's dad must really be a Star Wars geek to have named is son Luke.



Sounds to me like it's time for you to start learning from him. That's the only way to level the playing field.

I've never watched much anime, but I've been trying to get into it recently in preparation for my son's future geekdom.

First of all, I also named my son Luke (after Luke skywalker), and then brought him up as a sci-fi, comic book, fantasy kid but from what I'm seeing, it may have backfired on me as Anime is slowly creeping in from his friends. It's like I have no control any more.
He's now ten, and although he still likes all the fanboy stuff I introduced him to, he's now expanding into stuff I know nothing about. First Bakugan, then Yu-Gi-oh, Pokemon and now something else that I don't know anything about(un-named because I don't know the name.

I think I've created a monster

>> ^lucky760:

I never saw any of these until I was a grown ass man, so I don't have any fond childhood memories of them, but I'm quite eager, if I'm being honest, to let my boy watch them when he's old enough. I'm planning on manipulating him into a sci-fi, comic book geek as he grows up.
(I just hope he doesn't find this comment when he's older and discover what I've done to him.)
P.S. The kid's dad must really be a Star Wars geek to have named is son Luke.

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Translation from http://www.channel-ai.com/about555.html

Every day, with you – POP!~
Every day, as a couple – POP!~
Aa! The evening sun won’t seem like it’s setting if it’s looked at upside-down - POP!~
Every day, for some reason or another – POP!~
Every day, with a motorcyle – POP!~
Aa! The foreboding smell of rain!
I have an umbrella that’s full of holes! POP!~

POP! POP! POP!~

If I open the bottles of beer – POP!~
From here it’s jumping – POP!~

[Indistinguishable drunken(?) noises] POP! POP! POP!~

RU – JI – KA – WO – KA – YU – RI - NA
[not sure of meaning, or even sounds themselves]

Aaaa! POP! POP! POP!~

Aa! I shake hands with the guy I hate
Aa! Today also I’m doing my best!

POP! POP! POP!~

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[FEMALE ANNOUNCER] This is footage from when the giant tsunami rushed through Sendai City. A camera mounted on the dashboard of a car recorded many vehicles being lifted up and swept away by the rushing waves. This video contains disturbing images. However, News Zero has decided to broadcast it in order to educate people about the dangers of tsunamis.

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[MALE REPORTER] Good afternoon!

[YU MUROGA] Nice to meet you.

[NARRATOR] This is self-employed Yu Muroga, who lives in Sendai City. Three months ago, on that infamous day, he was engulfed by the tsunami.

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[NARRATOR] This is the car he was driving on that day. Inside this car, which was swept away by the tsunami, was a digital dashboard camera.

[MALE REPORTR] If you look closely, you can still see the mud.

[NARRATOR] The camera contained images of the tsunami sweeping through the city. The camera had been immersed in sea water and was broken. However, we requested a specialist take a look at it. He succeeded in retrieving the data from it—all 7 hours. What images would this data contain?

http://dogs.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/06/13/funny-dog-pictures-kan-yu-reed/

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The idiots at freedomain couldn't answer my questions and blocked me. I'm guest_14d3.

[20:20:52] Guest_14d3:
Had a question about anarchy. Any takers?
[20:21:42] Noesis to Guest_14d3:
I'm at least willing to listen.
[20:22:09] Guest_14d3:
How is an anarchy enacted or enforced?
[20:22:38] Guest_14d3:
What's to stop corporations from swooping in and taking control?
[20:22:41] aelephant:
Anarchy is enacted and enforced voluntarily.
[20:22:48] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
corporations
[20:22:51] Noesis to Guest_14d3:
So you haven't listened to Stefan's podcasts, or watched his videos, or read his books, then?
[20:22:54] aelephant:
De-centralization of authority.
[20:22:57] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
are legal fictions created and maintained by governments
[20:23:25] aelephant:
What's to stop you from punching me? I might punch you back.
[20:24:07] Guest_14d3:
Say a corporation comes and takes your property? Who is to stop them?
[20:24:23] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
who is to stop them now lol
[20:24:25] aelephant:
You could arm yourself and practice self-defense.
[20:24:34] Guest_14d3:
The state stops them now.
[20:24:39] aelephant:
You could hire out your self-defense to a protection agency.
[20:24:40] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
my property would be covered with land mines
[20:24:51] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
corporations are created by governments
[20:24:52] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
and preferably id like to have a gatling gun
[20:24:57] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
But who stops the government from taking your property?
[20:25:14] senorbuzco to aelephant:
IMMINENT DOMAIN
[20:25:22] Guest_14d3:
The corporation hires blackwater to demine your home and disable your weaponry. What do you do now?
[20:25:58] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
sooooo how is this different from right now?
[20:26:02] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
where is the cooperation getting fiunding for this?
[20:26:16] Guest_14d3:
The state protects private property. Are you unaware of this?
[20:26:19] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
Why is the corporation willing to pay Blackwater so much to demine my home and disable my weaponry (at considerable threat to their own life and limb)?
[20:26:45] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
The state has no duty to protect. Are you unaware of this?
[20:26:51] Guest_14d3:
Also, if your contention is that your system offers no benefit over the current one, then why are you pushing for it?
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[20:27:03] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
you're basically saying "once you replace government with government, what happens?"
[20:27:15] Guest_14d3:
The state protects private property. To pretend otherwise is dishonest.
[20:27:28] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
That is not what the courts have ruled.
[20:27:33] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
ever heard of imminent domain
[20:27:35] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
or taxes
[20:27:42] Guest_14d3:
How is anarchy enforced. What is to stop the super rich from taking control?
[20:27:52] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
D.C.'s highest court [said] that it is a "fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen."
[20:27:55] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
the super rich USE THE STATE to take control
[20:27:57] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
because they'd go broke
[20:28:30] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasler-protection.html
[20:28:41] Guest_14d3:
True, the Rich use the state, but only because they are forced to. Without the state as a middle man, their power would be limitless.
[20:29:04] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
Not at all. The State makes the wealth of the rich much more powerful than it otherwise would be.
[20:29:28] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
whoa, i never thought of it like that before
[20:29:29] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
In an anarchic society $100,000 buys you $100,000 worth of goods
[20:29:35] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
i have to rethink this whole anarchy thing
[20:29:44] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
In a Statist society, $100,000 might buy you a politician
[20:29:48] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
you're making great points
[20:29:51] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
and all of the power that comes along with that
[20:30:43] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
read this brah: praxeology.net/invisible-hands-and-incantations.pdf
[20:30:59] Guest_14d3:
Not at all? You have no idea how things would play out in an anarchy?
[20:31:27] Guest_14d3:
So, say Capitalcorp takes your land by force. What do you do?
[20:31:49] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
whose paying capitalcorp money?
[20:31:56] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
who's*
[20:31:59] Guest_14d3:
Customers.
[20:32:03] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
why?
[20:32:10] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
Why would Capitalcorp take my land by force? I will kill any Capitalcorp agents who come onto my property with the intent of seizing it.
[20:32:36] Guest_14d3:
Capital corp has a private army and they murder you and your family and take your land. What happens then?
[20:32:46] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
game over
[20:32:51] Guest_14d3:
Exactly.
[20:32:56] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
they get to the final level
[20:33:16] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
they beat the world
[20:33:42] Guest_14d3:
They beat the world, indeed.
[20:33:55] aelephant to Guest_14d3:
why would Capitalcorps army be willing to put their life and limb on the line to take my property?
[20:34:25] Guest_14d3:
Because it sits atop some kind of valuable natural resource.
[20:34:38] Guest_14d3:
You are dancing around the question.
[20:34:58] Guest_14d3:
Who is to stop them from taking your land and killing your family?
[20:35:10] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
remeber when i said that corporations are created and maintained by governments, and then you ignored that forever
[20:35:23] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
cuz i do
[20:35:28] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
who's to stop me from taking your land right now and killing your family?
[20:35:37] Guest_14d3:
So, corporations would 'voluntarily' disband?
[20:35:43] Guest_14d3:
I don't get your point.
[20:35:55] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
WHY DO COPROATIONS EXSIST AND HAVE POWER
[20:35:56] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
when companies dont provide a service they go broke
[20:35:57] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
THE FUCKING STATE
[20:36:11] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
THE STATE THAT TAXES ME
[20:36:17] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
AND GIVE IT TO CORPORATIONS
[20:36:19] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
AND THEIR BEHEST
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[20:37:04] Guest_14d3:
You don't think a large business could sustain itself without a government?
[20:37:07] Guest_14d3:
Why is that?
[20:37:29] Guest_14d3:
As long as they turn a profit, they can do as they please.
[20:37:32] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
Do yu listen to the fdr podcasts?
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[20:37:37] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
you*
[20:38:36] Guest_14d3:
What leads you to believe big business is not self sufficient?
[20:38:46] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
subsidies
[20:38:47] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
lol
[20:38:55] senorbuzco to Guest_14d3:
TAXES
[20:39:11] Guest_1746:
that doesnt make sense
[20:39:19] Guest_14d3:
How so?
[20:39:31] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
Do you listen to the fdr podcasts?
[20:39:48] Guest_14d3:
Exxon Mobile makes billions. They have a product that we cannot live without. They don't need the government to survive.
[20:39:58] Guest_14d3:
Not interested in the podcasts.
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[20:40:15] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
In that case, I'm blockin ya
[20:40:20] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
Show ya how anarchy works
[20:40:21] Stephen C to Guest_14d3:
Bye
[20:40:29] Guest_14d3:
put your fingers in your ears.
[20:40:47] Guest_14d3:
Wouldn't want to question your pre conceived notions.

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