Man, urban development in Yellowstone Park is out of control.

Me too - in the spring and in the summer. It's beautiful year-round. For those of you who don't know, Jackson Hole, the Grand Tetons, and Yellowstone National Park are all near each other. The whole area is definitely worth visiting at least once in your lifetime, if not more often.>> ^Lann:

I've been there.

>> ^Fusionaut:

It was fireworks! http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/03/3105511.htm?section=just
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I'm guessing the fish are a coincidence due to the distance involved (they weren't next to each other; so to speak...).

Although, fireworks (or things like that) due make some sense. I wonder if there were any "town" shows as I saw mention of only revelers for fireworks (which seems highly unlikely to cause something like this; unless these birds have a form of mass hysteria, like humans).

The lightning sounded like a better idea, but they should be able to match it to the autopsies. It'll be better once they have a few thorough autopsies done and a good idea of "where" they died (altitude, in the general area or a slight wind carry). Maybe, even a sonic boom could be at play. A plane might be able to make one loud enough, but if it happened at 30k like proposed I'm unclear whether residents would even hear a sonic boom. Also, I'm unsure as to the strength of a thunderclap (as it's also a "sonic boom", to some degree--far different cause than speed, as in lightning's case it's temperature variants), can the thunder cause a "fish in a barrel type effect, especially if the birds were in a storm with rain or a "heavy" cloud structure.

Maybe they were stunned and the fall actually killed them. Hopefully, we find out quick. I always fine these large die-offs interesting as sometimes the causes can give us more insight into how our planet works. One (actually two, in the same place) that I can think of off the top of my head was a Human die-off.

It was from Lake Nyos, in northwest Cameroon. Lake Nyos is one of three "exploding lakes" here are two interesting articles about them, but there is a (it's a National Geographic show, I'm very unsure of the title, it's related to the BBC show, "Killer Lakes", I just put up here; at the bottom is the link for it), but I know Lake Nyos is included in it) show about it which is a must watch -- they figured out what was happening basically on accident as well (this was not even a theory before; now they're afraid there are "mega-pockets" which is talked about in a History Channel "Mega Disasters" episode (I think "Methane Explosion", though "Methane" is used for sure) -- if something happens at an "ocean geographic scale" it would kill a lot of people; it has the potential to be worse than Yellowstone, but we have absolutely no information on the likelihood of this occurring nor the size of such an event). Nyos killed roughly 3500 livestock and 1700 people, some of the villagers were 16 miles from the lake. One of the other lakes is in Cameroon and the other is in Rwanda.

Here are the Wikipedia links:

Limnic Eruptions or also known as Exploding Lakes -- think of them as being somewhat like a soda can with the lid popped off and some Mentos thrown in.

Second, Lake Nyos which killed a large amount of people in 1986 and left scientists baffled.

There are some media links at the bottom of the wiki articles.


Here is the BBC documentary I just put up for the sift (HORiZONS, BBC World); trust me it's an interesting watch. Make sure you have time to watch it as it comes in at a FULL episode and is 44 minutes long. This documentary talks about the 1986 disaster and the mystery surrounding it.

They'll get into the mechanics and also show the reason some scientists are scared this WILL happen again, but this time it might kill hundreds of thousands--maybe more...

That's what happens when you're parked on a hot-spot and a spreading center... stupid iceland

By the way, yellowstone is in for it anytime this 0.1 million years, so start packing your bags if you live anywhere within 40000 km!

America should pull troops outta the drug/oil regions to save face and lend a hand....not like it's New York though, innit??...Sell yer hybrid and donate it to the cause, all ya bleeding hearts-Otherwise, knock onna congressman's website with keystrokes.....

Who really cares about Haiti anyhow,? really??...on the Videosift??

Most would rather call out that poser fuck Robertson and cry foul than do what they can for thousands of used and tormented islanders-Wait till Yellowstone pops and then whine about no internet-

10 years ago I was fourteen and was living on a ranch with my mother’s parents. It was the year I learned to snowboard, got my license, and quit smoking (tobacco). As a painfully shy tom boy, I didn’t have friends (besides my older brother and his crew), or a date (brother beat up the nerds I liked ) The next three years of high school were spent in the TINY town of Circle Montana. At 16 I got a best friend who I would spontaneously takes road trips across the state with. It was though her I got my first boyfriend the summer I turned 17. That summer we ran away to West Yellowstone and felt free…

At 17 with family problems on the ranch I moved to Billings (largest city in Montana). I finished my senior year there while staying in an apartment right across the parking lot from school. I worked washing, fueling, and parking UPS trucks to pay the rent. I almost got married at 19, broke up and moved in with my father’s parents. I started school at MSU as an Environmental Science major. After a year I decided I needed change.

Summer of 2005 I moved to Cookeville Tennessee to go to school at the Appalachian Center for Craft. To afford school, I took a year off and worked in the factories. I was an auto airbag inspector, assembler and typesetter…*yawn*. I finally started school again in the fall of 2006 in the glassblowing program. After a semester of glass I changed to metal. I started in Blacksmithing then shifted towards Metalsmithing. I just started working in clay a year ago and picked that up really quickly. Now I just got to finish my senior thesis this spring and get the fuck out of this place.

I have been down and lonely...but things have really changed for the better.

Unf**king believable. Sometimes I think you're just some left leaning person's sock puppet here only to make stupid unsubstantiated claims in order to get a rise out of people. But I'll bite on this one. If the government had not become involved in Yellowstone it wouldn't exist. Not in the state it was 200 years ago or in the state that it currently is in. It could have been managed better in many respects but your much vaunted unbridled free enterprise capitalist system would long ago have clear cut its forests, strip mined it of any valuable resources and jammed a pipe down Old Faithful and sold the heat generated.



>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:
Consider Yellowstone National Park's history. Yellowstone was a great place when it was running itself. Then the government got involved and screwed it up horribly. That's just what government does. Government steps in thinking it is going to 'fix' natural systems that run perfectly fine just by themselves. But all that government touches goes FUBAR. Every time.

You express remarkable faith in the free market there.

Yes - I do - because when government meddling is taken out of the free market it works wonderous miracles. Every time. Government is a great thing when it is reduced to its PROPER function - which is a place to go to redress grievences. But when government tries to get involved in the market, then it always (yes - I'm using the absolute) screws things up far more than it helps. All I'm saying is to reduce government to its proper function and scope and then the market will take care of itself quite nicely.

Consider Yellowstone National Park's history. Yellowstone was a great place when it was running itself. Then the government got involved and screwed it up horribly. That's just what government does. Government steps in thinking it is going to 'fix' natural systems that run perfectly fine just by themselves. But all that government touches goes FUBAR. Every time.

This is why caldera volcanoes such as Yellowstone are so explosive. Water seeps down and contacts the shallow magma chamber causing a rapid increase in chamber pressure by the volatilization of the water and other fluids. This pressure builds fast until the pressure exceeds that of the roof crust of the caldera. In this case the walls of ice and the bucket on top created a sort of pressure chamber in the middle which allowed for the buildup and explosion.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'magic hour, nature, wild life, montana, yellowstone, ray paunovich' to 'magic hour, nature, wild life, montana, wyoming, yellowstone, ray paunovich' - edited by kronosposeidon

This was filmed at Mammoth Hot Springs in Yellowstone NP. I have heard about that elk, and that his rack is worth several thousand dollars!

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37) Children - One child on this planet is blessed with 50% of my genes
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g. Lasik eye surgery
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If you could...what, who, when etc

41) Bring a famous person back from the dead - Jesus, just so he could tell all the neo-cons to shut the fuck up
42) Give 50 grand to any charity - Cancer/leukemia research
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46) Find out one thing you've always wanted to know - If there's an afterlife
47) Have the opposite gender deal with something you have to - Listen to all the talk about fucking fantasy football in the crapper at work
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Yellowstone Nat'l Park is so pristine and wonderful, and the bison there were awesome to behold. I can't wait to visit it again.

Wyoming is just as big and beautiful as you can imagine. The Bighorns, the Tetons, the Snowy Range, the Laramie Range, the Wind River Range, they're all God's country. Of course we do have some big ugly open pit coal mines too, but I guess we still need those black rocks, and Wyoming is the country's largest coal producer. Still, it's an outdoorsman and sportsman paradise. There are guys I know just like you who live to fish, and most everyone hunts. If you ever drove around Casper you'd soon notice a lot of houses with boats, fifth wheels, snowmobiles, ATV's, etc. parked in their driveways, because people here live for the outdoors.

If you've never been to Yellowstone or the Tetons then you gotta put it on your bucket list. And while you're here you can check out the Bighorns too. And who knows? You might even swing through Casper with the family to say hi. That would be cool.

uhhhhh, bamboos a weed, try killing it and it retaliates-deforestation is inevitable, place will look like Tank Girl's romping ground soon anyhow, when the sun changes the climate as she always has....let Yellowstone pop...Gaia, ftw!