I don't think so. Obama is so bad that he makes Jimmy Carter look good.

>> ^charliem:

Still the worst president ever.

Still the worst president ever.

>> ^Darkhand:

>> ^Boise_Lib:
Now if I could just get my relatives to watch this.

It doesn't matter. I showed this to some people I know are conservative and they've all had the same reaction.
I can't understand why people wouldnt' want to just change everything back tax wise to how it was under the Clinton Administration. The economy WORKED back then you know?
It's like, if I'm wearing a size 9 shoe, and then I switch to a size 8 because they didn't have any size 9's and this shoe is REALLY AWESOME so I'm going to try it! After about a year I'm going to be in agony I'd just go back to only buying size 9!
Why does everyone (conservative) want to re-invent the whole wheel?


We've reached that level of divisiveness and partisanship that it doesn't matter how good things were under Clinton, there is always going to be a large amount of mental gymnastics and false rationalization for some people that will allow them to be "convinced" that things were really quite horrible under his administration.

We're already seeing it now. The only way the republicans are going to get the white house is if they convince enough people of the doom and gloom. It doesn't matter how much good he does. He could single handedly bring down North Korea and Iran and the right will still try to argue that he's the worst president ever. All throughout Bush's presidency, all we heard about was Bin Laden this, Bin Laden that. A Democrat Administration gets him, and the first thing we hear is "pshaw....we don't care about him. He's not important." It's completely insane.

We could have time travel and actually witness Obama being born in Hawaii and it just won't matter, the birthers will still find some "rationalization" of their shit.

Speaking of which, I see that the latest "proof" that the birth certificate is fake hasn't gained any traction.

Hell, we had a sift here recently about a group of people who still think the world is flat and it's all just a huge conspiracy that the world is round. It's fucking 2012 and we have people who think the world is flat.

Part of it is the media's fault, they continue to insist that almost every issue could go either way. so that they can sell the conflict and turn it into ratings. It's one thing to have people who honestly believe that Obama wasn't born here, but it's quite another to have a media that gives them legitimacy for the sake of ratings.

The point is, we really gotta stop worrying about the fringe thinks. We live in a era of where we apparently don't care about what the majority wants anymore. We seem to only pay attention to the vocal minorities. Over half the US is ok with Gay Marriage, but yet it's still this wedge issue, 60-some percent were in favor of Medicare for all...yet we still can't make it happen. Most people ARE in favor of higher taxes for the rich...yet it still hasn't materialized yet. Most people have no problem getting along and living and working with people of other ethnicity, yet we still seem to live in a world where race is still an issue. All because we still continue to pay more attention to what the fringes thing than the majority.

When people are asked who the worst president was, a lot of people answer Bush. I do believe in my lifetime he's been the worst, though there have been many before him that were equally as bad in their own way.

Though, someone had a great answer to the question, "who is the worst president ever?" His reply was something along the lines of "Whoever is in office now, because they enjoy all the previous powers of the president before them plus the powers they create for themselves."

Interesting. I think I agree.

>> ^Kreegath:
Best laugh I've had in quite a while.
It's amazing what people with too much imagination and time can cook up. But seriously, this has to be a parody of conspiracy theorists, right?


:-|

>> ^xxovercastxx:
>> ^quantumushroom:
It's too bad the "public schools" government indoctrination centers don't teach American history anymore. If they did you'd already know that Carter was one of the worst presidents ever.
Those who forget Carter are condemned to repeat him with Obama.

Carter's presidency has nothing to do with statements made here. Despite the legacy of his presidency he has gone on to do excellent work in humanitarian projects all over the world. Claiming every Democrat has been wrong on every statement or decision they've ever made makes you look terribly stupid.
Let me make an example using Bush Jr. He's easily the worst president of my lifetime and quite possibly the worst ever, but I can still say he's done great things with PEPFAR.
If we had footage of Clinton stating "two and two is four", I get the feeling you'd try to pretend it wasn't. You'd probably work some stupid pun like "Shill Clinton" in there, too.
Grow up already.


Actually I think educated people dislike Carter because he was a terrible president, had no backbone, is now old and senile, and generally muddies up international affairs he has no business in.

>> ^quantumushroom:
It's too bad the "public schools" government indoctrination centers don't teach American history anymore. If they did you'd already know that Carter was one of the worst presidents ever.
Those who forget Carter are condemned to repeat him with Obama.


Carter's presidency has nothing to do with statements made here. Despite the legacy of his presidency he has gone on to do excellent work in humanitarian projects all over the world. Claiming every Democrat has been wrong on every statement or decision they've ever made makes you look terribly stupid.

Let me make an example using Bush Jr. He's easily the worst president of my lifetime and quite possibly the worst ever, but I can still say he's done great things with PEPFAR.

If we had footage of Clinton stating "two and two is four", I get the feeling you'd try to pretend it wasn't. You'd probably work some stupid pun like "Shill Clinton" in there, too.

Grow up already.

>> ^peggedbea:
>> ^quantumushroom:
It's too bad the "public schools" government indoctrination centers don't teach American history anymore. If they did you'd already know that Carter was one of the worst presidents ever.
Those who forget Carter are condemned to repeat him with Obama.

carter was a terrible politician because he refused to play politics. on international issues carter was indeed the best president of the second of the 20th century. furthermore, this post is about current humanitarian issues, on which carter has been a profoundly successful leader. and third, "government indoctrination centers" have never taught history. in fact, the cirriculum was always designed from the start to teach patriotism, not actual knowledge. perhaps if they DID teach actual history, you would know that.


Really? So Carter's funding of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan/Pakistan was an example of America's best international work? Most of the lefties have condemned that as the worst thing America has done, the strongest Bush haters even try to liken it to creating Al-Qaeda. Doesn't wash so well with them when they realize it was Carter at the helm back then though. But if you wanna pat him on the back for it, I guess that's up to you.

That aside, he's dead to rights on torture, I just don't feel any need to praise someone for saying something so bloody obvious.

>> ^quantumushroom:
It's too bad the "public schools" government indoctrination centers don't teach American history anymore. If they did you'd already know that Carter was one of the worst presidents ever.
Those who forget Carter are condemned to repeat him with Obama.


carter was a terrible politician because he refused to play politics. on international issues carter was indeed the best president of the second of the 20th century. furthermore, this post is about current humanitarian issues, on which carter has been a profoundly successful leader. and third, "government indoctrination centers" have never taught history. in fact, the cirriculum was always designed from the start to teach patriotism, not actual knowledge. perhaps if they DID teach actual history, you would know that.

>> ^jwray:
>> ^quantumushroom:
It's too bad the "public schools" government indoctrination centers don't teach American history anymore. If they did you'd already know that Carter was one of the worst presidents ever.
Those who forget Carter are condemned to repeat him with Obama.

On noneconomic issues, Carter was the best president of the second half of the 20th century.


You just made that up in your head, didn't you? Haha you had me there for a sec

>> ^quantumushroom:
It's too bad the "public schools" government indoctrination centers don't teach American history anymore. If they did you'd already know that Carter was one of the worst presidents ever.
Those who forget Carter are condemned to repeat him with Obama.


I don't know much about carter, and I don't care to.

But neither do I trust Obama, I don't trust any politician any more. Even Paul, and Kucinich.

>> ^quantumushroom:
It's too bad the "public schools" government indoctrination centers don't teach American history anymore. If they did you'd already know that Carter was one of the worst presidents ever.
Those who forget Carter are condemned to repeat him with Obama.


On noneconomic issues, Carter was the best president of the second half of the 20th century.

It's too bad the "public schools" government indoctrination centers don't teach American history anymore. If they did you'd already know that Carter was one of the worst presidents ever.

Those who forget Carter are condemned to repeat him with Obama.

>> ^seltar:
Somebody should arrange an Anti-Bush Flashmob, and storm all his public talks..
Would love to see 100 mimes miming "Impeach Him!", "Worst President Ever!" etc.


MIMES!

Finally, good for something.

Somebody should arrange an Anti-Bush Flashmob, and storm all his public talks..
Would love to see 100 mimes miming "Impeach Him!", "Worst President Ever!" etc.